Nancy Grace Show - Monday, November 10, 2008

[panthera]

Only he goes on national television and states it like he believes it to be a fact, oh and he also charges people for his website to be able to read his opinions.

Oops ~ well, I haven't been to his website. I'll agree there have been times when I've heard him on Nancy's show and had to think twice if he was relaying fact from theory. But otherwise I do think he means well.

 

[txmama]

OK, so from today I gather that LP & TM have aparently gotten into either an argument over something or have parted ways because of a disagreement. Does anyone know what caused this? They seemed to be working together up until today and then all of a sudden it was like two opposing camps. What'd I miss. Please explain.

 

[FloridaKatz]

Well if they didn't come and go and come and go, ya know?

yes, but they don't live here.

 

[realist]

OK, so from today I gather that LP & TM have aparently gotten into either an argument over something or have parted ways because of a disagreement. Does anyone know what caused this? They seemed to be working together up until today and then all of a sudden it was like two opposing camps. What'd I miss. Please explain.

It was because of LP and his empty promises and grandstanding. This guy is way out of control and needs to cease his antics immediately.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/11/there-have-been.html

 

[KR2tonenow]

what did I miss?

 

[john's mom]

I believe LP is donating the money to join his website to TES

 

[KR2tonenow]

I found that earlier while I was looking! I like his writing.

Wow, thanks Panthera!

:clap:

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

I believe LP is donating the money to join his website to TES

even after today????

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

OK, so from today I gather that LP & TM have aparently gotten into either an argument over something or have parted ways because of a disagreement. Does anyone know what caused this? They seemed to be working together up until today and then all of a sudden it was like two opposing camps. What'd I miss. Please explain.

I hate it that the media and posters are comparing and contrasting TM and LP with one another. The two men are like fire and water. Tim's totally professional approach humbly saturates all hearts with empathy and recruits hundreds of volunteers and contributions to help search. LP's efforts are totally different; he appeals to the drama, funds his own searches and helps to seek support for TM's efforts. Humility and Drama. Not good and bad -- just different people and different approaches working for the same end: find Caylee. Please stop comparing and picking either one apart. Both are trying to find her. If TES finds her they will probably garner more donations to help other missing people; if LP finds her he will increase his own following which will encourage him to help keep looking for missing people. Are either bad?
Our trying to figure out which is right or wrong or best has the potential to be detrimental to either one making further contributions to the outcome we desire -- to find Caylee.

 

[UCFAlumni2002]

Nicely put Expecting Unicorns!

 

[KR2tonenow]

Based on the blog-Tim and LP were picking each other apart. But I agree, both men need to respected. They both have, volunteers included, spent countless volunteer hours searching for this little girl.

I hope their differences will be righted.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

My son and I met both men this last weekend. I'm an "eyes" person. They're hearts were certainly reflected there -- Neither looked like they were positioning themselves for the camera shots or picking their words to impress anyone. I felt they were both speaking from their hearts.

I have no doubt that their differences will quickly dissolve because they are both super fine men.

 

[txmama]

Respectfully Snipped


I hate it that the media and posters are comparing and contrasting TM and LP with one another. The two men are like fire and water. Tim's totally professional approach humbly saturates all hearts with empathy and recruits hundreds of volunteers and contributions to help search. LP's efforts are totally different; he appeals to the drama, funds his own searches and helps to seek support for TM's efforts. Humility and Drama. Not good and bad -- just different people and different approaches working for the same end: find Caylee. Please stop comparing and picking either one apart. Both are trying to find her. If TES finds her they will probably garner more donations to help other missing people; if LP finds her he will increase his own following which will encourage him to help keep looking for missing people. Are either bad?
Our trying to figure out which is right or wrong or best has the potential to be detrimental to either one making further contributions to the outcome we desire -- to find Caylee.

I do not recall comparing them or picking them apart or saying one was right or one was wrong. I simply asked what had happened. Sorry.

 

[Chezhire]

I just wish everyone would just get along for the sake of precious lil Caylee. She did not deserve this and it just breaks my heart.

Well put, especially since her family couldn't seem to do it.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I do not recall comparing them or picking them apart or saying one was right or one was wrong. I simply asked what had happened. Sorry.

Please forgive, txmama. You are right. I didn't respond to your post correctly. I was too jittered up by all the discord not to realize that yours was a question rather than another accusation. Sorry. I'll read more closely in the future! Did you ever get your real question answered properly or have you already been able to piece it all together already?

 

[aprilshowers]

The doctor ___ I forgot his name, said the same thing that I posted on another thread earlier ... that she very well could have driven Caylee out of state. That's what I've been thinking for awhile.

She had 3 gas cans full and a full tank of gas.

 

[piratemom]

Aprilshowers, what day do you think she drove her out? Can we dissect the pings? Do the pings show her out of state at all?

I remember she said she went to Jacksonville in one of her lies

She also said Caylee was "close"

If it wernt for all her damn lies!

She will keep silent and not "break" ever. They all know the body will not be discovered. LA is keeping quiet so as not to slip up and say anything.

W/O a body she thinks she can walk.

 

[mitzi]

OK, so from today I gather that LP & TM have aparently gotten into either an argument over something or have parted ways because of a disagreement. Does anyone know what caused this? They seemed to be working together up until today and then all of a sudden it was like two opposing camps. What'd I miss. Please explain.

Personally, I think the person who constantly has to insert herself into every media event, is probably the one who had a large hand in the disruption...none other than Miss Media herself, CA! I'm sure during TM's meetings with CA this weekend, he heard an "earful" and being the kind and sympathetic person he is, TM's opinion of LP was swayed to the negative...anything to keep Miss Media from another meltdown!

 

[nancy botwin]

The doctor ___ I forgot his name, said the same thing that I posted on another thread earlier ... that she very well could have driven Caylee out of state. That's what I've been thinking for awhile.

She had 3 gas cans full and a full tank of gas.

I think this makes sense. It also provides an explanation for her strange obsession with hoarding gas cans.

Aprilshowers, what day do you think she drove her out? Can we dissect the pings? Do the pings show her out of state at all?

I remember she said she went to Jacksonville in one of her lies

She also said Caylee was "close"

If it wernt for all her damn lies!

She will keep silent and not "break" ever. They all know the body will not be discovered. LA is keeping quiet so as not to slip up and say anything.

W/O a body she thinks she can walk.

If I'm remembering correctly, her phone records don't even show her leaving the greater Orlando area.
However, if she was intelligent enough to move the body far away and use gas cans so she wouldn't have to stop for gas, she probably contemplated her cell records.
As I remember, there are several days when her phone was pinging at Tony's apt all day or for several hours. She could have left her phone behind and gone to dispose of the body in a remote location.
IMO, Casey saying she's "close" could just as easily mean she's far, far away.
She's very confident and I think it's because she knows the body is unlikely to be found.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

The doctor ___ I forgot his name, said the same thing that I posted on another thread earlier ... that she very well could have driven Caylee out of state. That's what I've been thinking for awhile.

She had 3 gas cans full and a full tank of gas.

I honestly thought she didn't end up getting all those cans of gas - but I agree, I had the same thought early on.
But, I went looking at the text messages between her and Amy on the morning of the 27th. The "squirrel" text always bothered me. At 11:34, KC sends the "definitely part of a dead animal plastered to the frame of the car". IF...IF...IF KC was psychotic and dillusional at that time, maybe she thought of the "thing" making the smell (Caylee) needed to removed from "the frame" of her car. (Cadaver dogs hit on rear tail light / trunk area of car) Did LE ever ask just WHERE she removed this "animal" and what she did with IT??? Just askin'....


Can they follow "pings" for text messages??