AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[shonyakay]

Not really. The FBI seems to think that the original ones very well could be real, and I imagine that is due to some form of statements within them that confirm details of the crime that no one else outside of law enforcement is or could be privy to.

Heck, as far as I know it hasn't been confirmed that her medications weren't taken when she was taken. We have a plea from authorities and family that she needs to take her medications or she'll incur serious health problems, but I don't think they've disclosed that they were in fact left behind. We could infer from those pleas that a kidnapper didn't take the medications, but it could also be inferred that they were emphasizing that he needs to make sure to give them to her if he really wants a ransom.

JMO.

Harvey Levin said that the ransom letter described where Nancy's watch was - "at the foot of a bed".
Harvey Levin said that claim is what caught FBI's attention. I think this why the FBI was involved with the appeals and the digital billboards.

As far as her medication the Arizona DPS alert said her medication was at her home.

 

[Fargo]

Jacket Nancy Guthrie Kidnapper Wore Matches Aero Hex Windbreaker, Authorities Investigating

TMZ has been searching to determine what type of jacket Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper was wearing, and we may have found the match.

www.tmz.com

Jacket thought to be Aero Hex Windbreaker

No TMZ, it doesn't match. Neither in the sleeves nor the elastic bottom. IMO

 

[stmichael]

costs about $70-80 online from what I see... so not bargain basement unless it is 2nd hand or stolen.

Still relative. My little tactical flashlight I carry cost 3x as much.

So say it's on sale for 55 that's still inexpensive in the realm of gear,

 

[wibbleflea]

We don’t know who instigated this.
We don’t know who the perpetrators are — or even how many there may have been.
We don’t know what the original intent was.
We don’t know whether something went wrong during the commission of whatever act was planned.
And we certainly don’t know what actually happened afterward.

The correct answer, when it eventually comes, has to connect all the dots.

The problem is, right now there are so few verified dots that there may be nothing meaningful to connect yet. Everything else is speculation layered on top of speculation.

Agreed. In this case, it’s probably easier to say what it isn’t: a regular kidnap-for-ransom case. Perhaps it was intended to be before things went wrong. But it does put a spotlight on SG and succeed in being devastating for her (and the whole family). I can’t help feeling that that was the idea all along.

 

[Cristofori406]

People who have zero criminal history, or rumored personality issues that at this point the media surely would have jumped on - seem unlikely to be able to kill their 84 year old mother and simultaneously that same night remove all obvious signs pointing to them, hide the body, dress up and stage other evidence. JMO

Yeah, I don't think lantana man is as unsophisticated as people are making him out to be. He seems like he's one participant in a planned event.

Either that, or--or in conjunction with--the LE team is abysmal.

<modsnip> Doesn't seem like they have much to work with. That FBI "description" was pathetic.

 

[cherryleaf]

Not really. The FBI seems to think that the original ones very well could be real, and I imagine that is due to some form of statements within them that confirm details of the crime that no one else outside of law enforcement is or could be privy to.

Heck, as far as I know it hasn't been confirmed that her medications weren't taken when she was taken. We have a plea from authorities and family that she needs to take her medications or she'll incur serious health problems, but I don't think they've disclosed that they were in fact left behind. We could infer from those pleas that a kidnapper didn't take the medications, but it could also be inferred that they were emphasizing that he needs to make sure to give them to her if he really wants a ransom.

JMO.

One thing I wish they would report on is the age of the bitcoin wallet…. Was the wallet created before her disappearance or after media coverage began?

 

[Love Never Fails]

do you mean NG a few million. SG is worth a lot more than a few million.

No. I mean SG. Anyone can say what they want, but sometimes people with money, spend a lot of money. Or, they are in debt to their eyeballs. She has a public life and a well off husband but we don’t truly know her financial position. Just something to think about.

 

[DizzyB]

FBI CODIS has limited DNA markers. They try to match with someone in CODIS.
Also, they can't do Investigative Genetic Geneology.

I have seen workarounds.

 

[GoJacks]

No TMZ, it doesn't match. Neither in the sleeves nor the elastic bottom. IMO

I actually came across that jacket they're referencing last night in my search and immediately said nope the cuff area or bottom area doesn't match - i could be wrong but just dont see it...and i watched the videos a 100+ times to match areas of the jacket to ones I was finding online.

 

[Cristofori406]

Agreed. In this case, it’s probably easier to say what it isn’t: a regular kidnap-for-ransom case. Perhaps it was intended to be before things went wrong. But it does put a spotlight on SG and succeed in being devastating for her (and the whole family). I can’t help feeling that that was the idea all along.

Agreed. No other motivations seem apparent. Looks like it was to get NG out of the way and/or to make NG's family suffer. Forensic precedent in cases where no proof of life and questionable ransom support that scenario.

 

[The OG]

But her daugher and SIL have a child right? Do we know if the child was home during dinner?

An important question and AFAIK, it hasn't been answered publicly.

 

[Sessiebo]

We've had politicians with worst keep office and get re-elected. He has a large democratic backing in AZ.

But he's clearly had issue that point to egotism, pettiness, and mismanagement as both scandals/investigations disclose. I mean the FBI tried to end his career in 2016, no wonder he's big-shotting them now, he's trying to save his own hide.

Sadly, at the expense of Nancy

 

[Love Never Fails]

Harvey Levin said that the ransom letter described where Nancy's watch was - "at the foot of a bed".
Harvey Levin said that claim is what caught FBI's attention. I think this why the FBI was involved with the appeals and the digital billboards.

As far as her medication the Arizona DPS alert said her medication was at her home.

A local said they were only an hour from Mexico and it would be so easy to cross the line and keep her there. It would be very easy to get her medications there also. Could have been preplanned.

 

[NewYork625]

I don’t know what finances the family has. We can assume SG has a few million.
We do not know if CG or AG have a lot of money so how do you think they would get “millions”? I believe it takes 7 years to declare someone deceased without a body and even then, they would split any monies Mom may have had. So why would anyone have to “act” innocent? I’m not following your thought process.

Based on the publicly available permit for the work done on the house, NG's house is in a revocable trust. What will that mean for the family if she is not found?

 

[Assassino]

Yeah the pattern of that Aero windbreaker looks super alike, but some smaller details don't. The intruder's jacket looks thicker and of different material.

 

[HerNameWasBuffy]

Why do people keep thinking that murder for inheritance can only be about getting it early?!

It's more often to prevent you being cut out of inheritance altogether.

Which still begs the question why stage a disappearance and increase the scrutiny on themselves by orders of magnitude rather than arrange an accident that wouldn't have been investigated to nearly the same degree unless they ruled it foul play.

Foul play is a possibility in an accident but a certainty with an abduction.

 

[SeattleStew]

costs about $70-80 online from what I see... so not bargain basement unless it is 2nd hand or stolen.

They sell this where I get my running shoes, FF is the initials, def a runner's jacket.

 

[moonglow123]

Crazy it’s been 13 days and there’s still no official indication of what car he was in. Do they really not know still?

Surveillance footage of the perp was one helpful thing, but it being combined with what car he was in would probably help a lot more to get useful and clear tips from the public.

 

[cherryleaf]

Before they said goodbye on the afternoon of Jan. 30, Ms. Guthrie checked with one of the players, Anne Burnson, making sure that they were still on to watch church at a friend’s house on Sunday. Their ritual was to gather in the friend’s den and watch a recording of the Manhattan service that Ms. Guthrie’s youngest child, the NBC host Savannah Guthrie, had attended earlier that morning. They even had wafers and grape juice on hand for communion.

But Nancy Guthrie, always punctual, did not arrive at 11 a.m. on Feb. 1. Her friends texted, then called. They contacted Ms. Guthrie’s older daughter, Annie, who rushed to Ms. Guthrie’s home. It was empty.

Now, nearly two weeks after Ms. Guthrie’s disappearance, which the authorities have said they are investigating as an abduction, her friends and family say they are refusing to give up hope of finding her alive.

With the search for Ms. Guthrie in its 13th day, her closest friends — some speaking publicly for the first time — are trying to avoid fixating on the ominous details. They know about the blood found on her doorstep, the masked figure with a pistol caught on her doorbell camera, the discarded black gloves found by investigators scouring the desert.

“I keep thinking about every time I’d go in the kitchen door, and she’d be sitting there at the counter, just how her eyes would always light up as soon as she saw me,” said Ms. Burnson, who has been friends with Ms. Guthrie for 42 years. “That’s when you know you have a real friend.”

Nancy Guthrie’s Friends Refuse to Give Up Hope She’s Alive

Shortly before her disappearance, Ms. Guthrie, the mother of the NBC host Savannah Guthrie, was celebrating her 84th birthday and playing games.

www.nytimes.com

This honestly made me cry. Logging off again

 

[COSCitizen]

Hoping this is more signal than noise:

IMO, the fact LE is mentioning multiple persons of interest may mean nothing more than anyone whose telephone pinged the cell phone towers in the month of January. I suspect that is a lot of people.

With respect to living in rural subdivisions, we lived in a similar foothill area for over 25 years, but it was Colorado, not Arizona. While I was living there, I felt very safe from random human intruders. Similar to Arizona, you have to be very reckless to venture onto private property without permission. I suspect most people where we lived had rifles and knew how to use them. And there was a lot of ex-military in the area to boot. We had big dogs from breeds considered protection breeds for most of the time we lived there as well. In the time we lived there there was one house break-in where items were taken, two house fires, and a brief incident where someone was stealing from the roadside mail boxes. (The postal authorities apparently caught the perpetrators of the mailbox crimes pretty quickly.) And there was one case of arson where the fire was set outside by someone from out of state. Thank goodness for the wildland fire fighters out of Canon City and elsewhere. We had a neighborhood email list which was rarely used: generally for things like "your missing horses are in our east field at <address>, please come and get them." Once it was a mule.

We would go years without seeing a county deputy on our road.

My own risk assessment of our area when we lived there.

1 Wildfire: we were less than a mile from a National Forest and evacuated three times due to various major and minor wildfires.
2 Deer on the road. Most of us got a feel for where they might cross the road and I only knew of one killed by an automobile in our neighborhood in that time. Elk were rarer but riskier because you really don't want to hit an elk.
3 Much further down the list: rattlesnakes. More of a threat to our dogs and horses than ourselves. Ditto porcupines.
4 Mountain lions. Mountain lions are ambush killers, very shy, and will occasionally attack human beings or dogs. It was big news when someone saw one, but we always assumed they were out there.
5 Black bears. People in our area were pretty good about securing bear attractions so it was big news when someone saw one. The bears usually moved on to more attractive opportunities pretty quickly.
6 People: the arsonist was a big shock. He set the fire, then went to one of the neighbors houses and asked for a drink of water while smelling of accelerant. I suspect he was not playing with a full deck, and never had been.

And yes, there were years when the only time I checked the locks was when there was someone who would be critter sitting for us because they might feel weird entering an unlocked house.