• #29,821
With respect, I'm sharing my view on images and articles about NG's grandchildren. SG and her husband are wisely shielding their children from the turmoil and media circus in Tucson. AG and her husband are local, but they're limiting their child's exposure as best they can. Beyond privacy concerns, reporting on the grandkids or their whereabouts impacts their security. Nancy may have been targeted because of SG's celebrity or resources. Whoever kidnapped Nancy or someone inspired by this crime could target a grandchild.

I want to thank you all for the responsible discussions of charged topics like this crime. The ground rules ensure WS is victim-friendly. Discussions here are driven by responsible mainstream media reporting, which make participating worthwhile and productive. With crimes that generate wide public interest like this one, the benefits of the TOS are readily apparent. Reliance on responsible media outlets means our discussions extend grace and space to Nancy's grandchildren. I appreciate that and just wanted to say so. Good night.
 
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DBM
 
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I think buying cheap items at Walmart was a very smart move. Especially if he paid in cash, in another city, or shoplifted them. Imagine if he had been filmed with a high quality professional holster and an extremely high quality backpack from a top of the line outfitter? He could have been traced very quickly. The only better thing he could have done is use stuff from a Goodwill or garage sale.

I do think the gun in the holster would be a better avenue to explore. Unless it is stolen or acquired from illegal sales and untraceable. Based on the curving shape of the butt, I think it is a Ruger SR22. Possibly a Ruger American Compact, 9mm.
Usually I would agree that buying cheap items would make it harder to track. However, when it comes to Walmart that changes things. Walmart has a very strong inventory system as well as security cameras and is known for cooperating with LE. With multiple items purchased, likely, within a small timeframe this could be their downfall. Even if the suspect shoplifted the items, if law enforcement contacts Walmart they can do an inventory count on those specific SKU’s to see if a particular store is missing those 3 items. If they are then they can review the footage for the aisles in question.

Is this a lot of work….Yes! However, it is far more likely than some of the random tips they may be chasing down and the FBI has the resources to do it.
 
  • #29,824
Another major development Saturday: investigators say they're now leaning away from any relatives of the Guthrie family as suspects but not officially ruling anyone out until the case is solved.

Leininger's message to Tucson residents: keep an open mind, and report anything that appeared out of the ordinary in recent weeks.

“You would be surprised how many times people have information but they don’t think it's important enough to report it and it runs out to be incredibly important to solving the case,” Leininger said.

A sheriff's deputy was stationed in the driveway of Guthrie's home Saturday, and the Tucson community continues to show support for the Guthrie family, many buying yellow flowers for Nancy and putting their messages and prayers on a banner outside her house.

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said Saturday that a man briefly detained in the Nancy Guthrie case Friday “was our person of interest.”

Nanos described the man in an interview with Fox News as cooperative — but did not elaborate on what he meant by the “person of interest” designation or whether the individual was believed to have any direct connection to Guthrie’s disappearance.

The man was later released. He is believed to own a gray Range Rover that authorities searched and towed as part of the investigation.
 
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It’s actually not that difficult to identify patterns with data. It can be done pretty quickly with basic analytics tools, and lightning fast with AI. We do various analyses in my work, and AI has really sped things up + increased accuracy. I suspect LE should already be going this route…
 
  • #29,826
The items may have been purchased at 'different times', over months / years. From some of his known actions, he doesn't seem like a 'methodical' person. The question 'what if?' doesn't come into his thinking i.e. the door bell security camera, trying to cover with twigs etc.
 
  • #29,827
This is a shame.

If this crime was based on jealousy/rage/resentment toward SG, then it's mission (almost) accomplishment.

(MOO/JMO)

Savannah Guthrie weighs quitting ‘Today’ show: Sources​


 
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Search for Savannah Guthrie's Abducted Mom Nancy Could Take 'Years,' Local Sheriff Says



This is a My Opinion Only statement….

I am sorely disappointed and disgusted with this sheriffs department. If it takes years it is only because they have so contaminated the crime scene and forensics that it may never be solved. They did everything you could do wrong from the start. Now they are in some kind of petty turf war with the FBI. The sheriff doesn’t seem to have the intestinal fortitude to look at this case and see that it is far far out of his league. I hope it isn’t too late for Nancy.

This is all my own opinion and speculation based only upon reading and watching TV coverage.
 
  • #29,830
Four hours ago:

Investigators say:
  • they are leaning away from looking into the man whose home was searched overnight as a suspect,
  • away from a man named Carlos, who was stopped in a car earlier this week,
  • and away from any relatives of Guthrie as suspects, the sources said.
Well, that's what they SAY.

But it may not be the case! Who knows what they're really doing?!
 
  • #29,831
I continue to believe that Guthrie family members are not involved in NG's disappearance. However it wouldn't surprise me at all if an associate of a relative is involved, LE and FBI know so much more than we do and they are under no obligation to release info to the public.IMO
 
  • #29,832
While the searches and interviews were ongoing Friday night, Pack said other teams of agents and analysts were likely already planning a full neighborhood canvas around the location that was searched.

“They’ll be going door to door, looking to talk face to face with neighbors,” Pack said. “They want to identify patterns of life for each of the people detained. … It will help corroborate or dispute whatever those who were detained are telling agents right now. If someone says ‘I wasn’t home that night,’ a neighbor’s Ring camera might tell a different story. Investigators are building the box.

Aside from canvassing the area, Pack said the most pressing concern is likely processing new evidence collected from at least two locations Friday night.

“DNA that doesn’t belong to Nancy Guthrie or anyone close to her has already been identified at her property. Gloves have been recovered. Now you’ve got whatever was inside that Range Rover that warranted agents draping it with a tarp before the cameras could see,” he said. “All of that evidence needs to get to a lab.”

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos recently defended his department’s use of a private Florida lab to process evidence in the case, telling Fox News earlier this week the FBI agreed it was best to continue with the contracted business rather than transfer the evidence to the FBI’s comprehensive crime lab in Quantico, Virginia
 
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Another major development Saturday: investigators say they're now leaning away from any relatives of the Guthrie family as suspects but not officially ruling anyone out until the case is solved.
BBM <snipped>

Do you have a link regarding which investigators said the above? I don’t believe I remember reading this anywhere.
 
  • #29,834
BBM <snipped>

Do you have a link regarding what investigaters said the above? I don’t believe I remember reading this anywhere.
I agree, this isn't true, its just someone else trying to blindly defend AG and SIL
 
  • #29,835
Savannah Guthrie missed the Today show after her mother went missing. The host took to Instagram to ask for prayers for her mom’s well-being. She wrote, “we believe in prayer. we believe in voices raised in unison, in love, in hope.” She added, “we believe in goodness. we believe in humanity. above all, we believe in Him.”

Guthrie thanked everyone for praying for her beloved mother, whom she described as “a woman of deep conviction, a good and faithful servant.” She continued, “raise your prayers with us and believe with us that she will be lifted by them in this very moment. we need you.”

The news host ended the post exclaiming, “‘He will keep in perfect peace those whose hearts are steadfast, trusting in the Lord,’ a verse of Isaiah for all time for all of us. Bring her home.”
 
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"Savannah [is] there, having a little makeup on, having done her hair a little bit. And of course, you have the online nuts who are like, 'I would never if my mother were missing, I would never put on a stitch of makeup' – Okay, Savannah has obviously had the hardest week plus of her life," Kelly, 55, huffed to the haters on her February 10, SiriusXM show.

"Those videos showing her incredibly raw, without hair and makeup done, are what's real," the former Fox News host stressed.

"And as somebody who does the hair and makeup virtually every day, I completely related to that feeling of when things are really hard, really hard, you don't do it," Kelly revealed. "And it's part of your depression, your sadness, and your inability barely to get out of bed."
 
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"Savannah [is] there, having a little makeup on, having done her hair a little bit. And of course, you have the online nuts who are like, 'I would never if my mother were missing, I would never put on a stitch of makeup' – Okay, Savannah has obviously had the hardest week plus of her life," Kelly, 55, huffed to the haters on her February 10, SiriusXM show.

"Those videos showing her incredibly raw, without hair and makeup done, are what's real," the former Fox News host stressed.

"And as somebody who does the hair and makeup virtually every day, I completely related to that feeling of when things are really hard, really hard, you don't do it," Kelly revealed. "And it's part of your depression, your sadness, and your inability barely to get out of bed."
I was happy to see that she had put a little bit of makeup on etc. To me it was a sign that she was feeling maybe the slight bit better and perhaps coming out of the shocked stage a bit. Some of the comments judging her about wearing makeup etc. are just deplorable. IMO, people who make such judgemental comments like that are just plain ignorant and probable very unhappy.
 
  • #29,840
This is a shame.

If this crime was based on jealousy/rage/resentment toward SG, then it's mission (almost) accomplishment.

(MOO/JMO)

Savannah Guthrie weighs quitting ‘Today’ show: Sources​


I have my personal doubts that SG is chatting with this host or her sources.
I hope we can give SG space and privacy as she goes through this horrible time of wait and overwhelming worry.
 
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