AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cady]

reading the full FBI statement Brian Entin posted on X is says the glove with DNA on it looks similar to the glove on the masked video perp, strange wording, but sounds promising

are they talking about that big ugly silver-looking glove???? If they found its mate, that's hitting the jackpot! JMO OK, it wasn't silver, it was black, according to News Nation now on TV So, both black. She said LE wear blue gloves.

 

[MistyWaters]

IMO this case will likely be solved with the assistance of Walmart. When the information on the backpack came out it was an “exclusive” from Walmart, I got a bit excited.

Walmart is a risky place for criminals. How many times have we seen the Dateline’s and other crime shows? The camera over the register? And the “murder kit” coming down the conveyer belt. They get a copy of the receipt. With the date and time. A photo of the purchaser. And they follow the cameras outside and usually get a photo of the vehicle and possibly the license plate.

Walmart has one of the best retail surveillance systems out there. Their inventory system is also top notch. They can look up this gun holster and this backpack to see when and what store it was purchased from.

Then get a list of the credit card receipts. And videos of the purchasers.

I’m sure subpoenas and the leg work involved with checking out the cash purchasers will take time. But this will narrow things down.

I agree, it might take awhile. I followed a local case that Walmart assisted in solving. Police were able to identify the type and appx size of running shoe from the imprint that was found near the victim’s body. Working with police, Walmart was able to identify all the purchasers of that specific shoe along with the payment card. This led to the identity of the guilty culprit known to have an association with the deceased victim. It was amazing! Surveillance systems would further the evidence.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

It’s illegal to upload a profile to CODIS unless all steps are done.

Thank you! I love how knowledgeable everyone is here!

 

[Bobban]

But don't they have to connect it to the crime? A person's DNA on a roadside glove doesn't really mean anything unless there is something also on the glove that links to the crime scene or NG, etc. I'm not saying it's impossible it's related but I would think DNA match on evidence in NG house is more likely to help. But no mention of that DNA testing...

It they find NG's dna on the glove along with unknown dna it would be helpful. But they do need some relation to NG on the glove for it to be helpful i think.

 

[SaraSmile]

Agree. Walmart has extensive cameras both inside and outside the store. Arabian Lover said it well - Walmart has one of the best retail surveillance systems out there and would have videos of the section of the store where these items were sold, the person at check out and their car.

While there are 17 Walmarts in Tucson, many of these are Walmart grocery stores or Walmart superstores that don't sell these specialty Walmart backpacks. So it's a small number of Walmarts in Tucson selling this kind of backpack.

If LE has determined that the suspect had specific gear that was purchased at another specific store, they could look at which Walmarts are near that other specific store and start with ha subpoena for that store.

Once LE has a subpoena, they could see if there are matches with a person who they already have on their suspect list as well as gather additional names to investigate.

Seems this is a huge clue that could help this investigation. MOO

Agreed. Amazing how many criminals fall into this trap! The urge to commit the crime is so intense, that common sense is over ruled. It doesn’t enter their heads to buy items that can’t be traced, or at least spread out purchases, so it doesn’t look so intentional! JMO

 

[VegasGirl35]

More like a group of (2-3) local thugs. JMO

I tend to think so too. A trio of guys who have some criminal activity under their belts but aren't professional kidnappers or genius masterminds.

 

[warp3dwing]

But don't they have to connect it to the crime? A person's DNA on a roadside glove doesn't really mean anything unless there is something also on the glove that links to the crime scene or NG, etc. I'm not saying it's impossible it's related but I would think DNA match on evidence in NG house is more likely to help. But no mention of that DNA testing...

I suppose if the give had DNA on it that matched a criminal in CoDIS, they could track down and interview that person to see if they could be involved.

 

[SlimPickens]

According to this, when assisting local police, the FBI still gets their own federal warrants to make sure what they do passes the 44th amendment test and meets federal court standards.

Google Search

This is not true, and the reason that AI responses should always be verified by other sources. FBI agents can obtain a state warrant from a state judge if the crime they are assisting with is a state crime. The forum member I was discussing this with yesterday reinforced this with the reference to the state search warrant obtained by an FBI agent in the Delphi murders.

JMO.

 

[joe jones]

are they talking about that big ugly silver-looking glove???? If they found its mate, that's hitting the jackpot! JMO OK, it wasn't silver, it was black, according to News Nation now on TV

they didn't say what glove, but it may also not be silver due to distortion on video

 

[HoveringWombats]

JMO, if one were to collect all of the theories, statements of supposed fact, and conclusions from all of the retired and former LE people (and similar) who have talked to various media outlets, they would end up with a list of conflicting and broad-ranging ideas no different from what we have in this thread here from our own amateur sleuths. Which I think says something about how much attention we should pay to experts in the media. I have no disrespect for the service these people have given to their community and country, and for the often deep experience they have. But at the end of the day, none of us, including them, actually know what happened.

 

[connie9030]

I wish AZ would let them hold detainees longer than 24 hours. That's not enough time to get any results back from the testing of the items seized! Arizona is one of only six jurisdictions that mandate this shortest timeline. The majority of states use a 48 hour limit and some states allow detaining a suspect up to 72 hours.

 

[su5ie]

From the research I’ve done, a human still goes over every single tip. AI helps by going back over the tips to see if the humans “missed something” and they sometimes use AI to sort tips into categories.

So while AI is indeed helpful with tips, it doesn’t necessarily speed things along since we are still using a human to go over every single tip. While this may take long, it actually makes me feel more comfortable. Humans are still superior. Lol.

FBI Cyber Lead: Division Leveraging AI for Tip Line

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Snipped from article linked above:

The head of the FBI’s Cyber Division said today that the bureau is making the “nation so much safer” by leveraging artificial intelligence (AI) and natural language processing technology in its tip reporting.

Cynthia Kaiser, the director of the FBI’s Cyber Division, said during GDIT EMERGE in D.C. on June 4 that the tip line will continue to employ humans, but emphasized “people miss things” that AI can catch.

“After it’s looked at by a human, after it’s flagged one way or another, we’re using natural language processing models to also go over the synopsis of the text of what that phone call or online tip then details to see did we miss something,” Kaiser said. “That AI is trained on the expertise of people who’ve been … taking in these tips for years and years and years and know what it is to flag.”

“That’s a way in which AI is making us so much safer and making the nation so much safer,” she continued, “There’s always a human in the loop with FBI when we’re doing that, but it helps us fill in the cracks.”
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AI isn’t as good with language as it is with numbers and images. That’s why robots are still not quite ready for home use. They don’t understand language/comands well enough.

I think you can use this thread as an example of what you are implying

So far it has 1512 pages multiply that by 20 posts per page and even if one has read every post and one had felt 500 posts were intriguing and 1000 posts were saying similar. How many posts can you recall with accuracy especially ones that are not recent

Whereas AI can do all that categorisation in seconds therefore churning out the most valid posts / tips but you would still need a human to see if those posts were phrased as " imo " 'hypothetically phrased " or leads

Just my musings

 

[cait2007]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023078791862800654

To be clear, is he stating that they have two different gloves, found at two different locations, with the same dna? If so, that sounds promising!!

 

[HoveringWombats]

To be clear, is he stating that they have two different gloves, found at two different locations, with the same dna? If so, that sounds promising!!

Not an answer, but validation that things aren't very clear right now:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023089192708997380

 

[diggndeeperstill]

After just watching the Brian Entin update from yesterday, it was reported the driver of the RR is connected to the house that was raided. Watch the video that was posted by sdmike1974, extremely informative.

Can you help me find which report this was that said the Range Rover was connected to the house?

Found it- 1 minute in

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Removing NG from the home is a big deal. Physically it’s hard to do even for two people. And it’s risky. Even with vegetation, a car pulled up to the front door and leaving the driveway runs risk of being seen. Leads me to guess taking NG was always the plan, to be executed at all costs. jmo

 

[MassGuy]

To be clear, is he stating that they have two different gloves, found at two different locations, with the same dna? If so, that sounds promising!!

I don’t believe so. Just they found some gloves that appear to match the ones worn by the offender, and there is DNA.

 

[BrittMontero]

Not sure if this possibility has been considered here. Did any of NG's friends go on and on about NG having a famous daughter to their adult children? "SG gave NG this" "SG took NG here" SG always does this for NG" "NG is so lucky to have SG for a daughter"

IDK how likely of a possibility but I think if a mentally unstable, adult child had to hear it all the time, it could lead to some jealous behavior.

This is well-articulated; I’ve had similar suspicions.

Learning the other day about that biographical video re SG, that aired as recently as November, really gave pause for thought. Some less successful/fulfilled/happy people with a similar local background but a less enjoyable path in life might view that resentfully as “rubbing it in.”

Hope that isn’t the case.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Former CIA officer and FBI special agent Tracy Walder, in a February 6 analysis, dismissed pure financial motives: "Savannah's salary is publicly known, and others earn more... I am not convinced it’s fully about money. I, in my gut, feel like this is someone that either had some kind of obsession with Savannah because of how high profile she is, and this was a way to potentially get to her. Or this is a person that has some kind of beef with Savannah because of whatever story she covered or whoever she interviewed." She emphasized stalking: "There’s no way this is a robbery gone wrong. You’re not going to bring the person with you. There’s no way this is random." Walder noted neighbors reported a suspicious van near the home days prior, hinting at reconnaissance.

Her thoughts confirm what many Websleuthers have been thinking. NG's abduction was possibly related to somebody obsessed with SG who used the abduction of her mother as a way of getting to SG.

I still think that the ransom and abduction are two totally separate situations. If the perps wanted a ransom, it seems they would have left a note at the scene or gotten it the LE or the news much faster, IMO.

JMO

 

[HoffaUnderground]

Former CIA officer and FBI special agent Tracy Walder, in a February 6 analysis, dismissed pure financial motives: "Savannah's salary is publicly known, and others earn more... I am not convinced it’s fully about money. I, in my gut, feel like this is someone that either had some kind of obsession with Savannah because of how high profile she is, and this was a way to potentially get to her. Or this is a person that has some kind of beef with Savannah because of whatever story she covered or whoever she interviewed." She emphasized stalking: "There’s no way this is a robbery gone wrong. You’re not going to bring the person with you. There’s no way this is random." Walder noted neighbors reported a suspicious van near the home days prior, hinting at reconnaissance.

Would think it is was for financial reasons with SG then the ransom letters would be sent to her team. Seems random to go to TMZ