AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[cait2007]

SG, IMO, is talking to the perp directly. This is what he craves! SG's attention. Undivided attention....he's been suffering from unrequited love from her for sooooo long! Think like a frustrated stalker who has the ultimate souvenir that keeps on giving. He has the mom of the object of his affection! Maybe he even sits and talks to NG. Asks for stories about SG. As an aside, the other day SG posted that video of her, her sister and NG from many years ago. That wasn't from just grieving, imo. That was something designed to appeal to the perp. Might even have been done at the perp's direction. Nancy may be alive. She's an insurance policy for the perp. ( SO HE FANTASIZES IN HIS TWISTED BRAIN) SG will continue to speak to him as long as he has NG. Some day he will release NG, perhaps. He will tell himself he is righteous and noble and returning NG to her family and SG will love him forever for that. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX! MOO

If this wasn’t for money, which could be a possibility based on nothing being taken from the home; then the only other reason you would kidnap someone would be for a control aspect. Similar to what you’re describing where the perp wants attention and everything on his terms. It could have to do with any of the siblings! Sick and twisted, but people who commit crimes like this usually are..

 

[milkshakedonkey]

[I agree with you, and out of curiosity I did a simple google search of "What professions are taught how to carry a lifeless body over shoulder?", and I am not sure of the RULES about posting this type of response but hoping I do not offend anyone or get slapped down for posting it... I am TRYING to just offer my own thoughts.... and the response was:

Several professions are trained in the

Fireman’s Carry (or Firefighter’s Carry), a specialized technique used to transport an unconscious or "lifeless" person over the shoulders. This method is preferred for moving a casualty over long distances because it distributes weight evenly across the rescuer's shoulders.

Primary Professions Using This Technique

• Military Personnel: Soldiers are extensively trained in the fireman's carry to evacuate wounded comrades from combat zones. It is specifically included in the U.S. Marine Corps Combat Fitness Test as part of the "Maneuver Under Fire" component.
• Firefighters: Historically the origin of the technique, firefighters are trained in this carry to move victims out of dangerous environments. However, modern firefighting often prioritizes dragging techniques to keep the victim closer to the ground, where the air is cooler and clearer.
• Lifeguards: Lifeguards may be trained in this method for transporting an unconscious victim across land (such as a beach) to a safe area for medical treatment.
• Police Officers: Law enforcement training often includes the fireman's carry for emergency rescue scenarios, such as moving an injured officer or civilian during active threats.
• First Responders (CERT/EMTs): Members of Community Emergency Response Teams (CERT) and some EMTs are taught the technique as an option for single-rescuer evacuations.

Specialized & Non-Emergency Contexts

• Martial Artists and Wrestlers: The technique is a fundamental move in freestyle wrestling (known as Kata Guruma in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu) used to take down an opponent by lifting them over the shoulders.
• Professional Wrestlers: Many professional wrestlers use variations of the fireman's carry (e.g., the Attitude Adjustment or Samoan Drop) as a setup for offensive moves. ]

IMO, In my own curiosity just a thought that the perpetrator may have been one of these (Former or current military, trained in wrestling or martial arts, or wrestling)?? Please delete if not allowed.

True. However fireman’s carry has been taught in every first aid class I’ve ever had to take and my profession is not listed there. An awful lot of people know fireman’s carry.

 

[SaraSmile]

I have not seen a credible list of medications for NG.

Early on it was mentioned about her heart issues, she has a pacemaker.
Also needed blood thinners, and neurontin for nerve pain.
I’m not a Dr or expert ( Drs Daughter if that helps!), but I know if a person needs:
1. blood pressure med, or blood thinners, and they don’t have them, they May eventually have a stroke.
2. Neurontin, for nerve pain, if they stop cold turkey, lots of pain and May have a seizure.

We don’t have a complete list, but these two I remember were mentioned.

JMO

 

[steff13]

Why are there so many photos of SG and NG but not NG and AG?

We don't know that there aren't more photos of NG and AG; SG is who is making this such a big story, maybe those are the pictures the media is choosing to share.

 

[Napoli]

But wouldn't you assume stalking to be sexually motivated? If so, the perp would have gone directly after SG herself.

No I wouldn't assume a sexual motivation. Also, SG would be much harder to approach with security guards, access etc. He went for her mom to get as close as he could to SG and to keep her engaged on a personal level. He may WANT SG to beg. Just like he has probably begged in some fashion to her in social media or even silently in his brain. JMO

 

[annpats]

Removing a pacemaker would be a major ordeal. The insertion of one creates a 2-2.5 inch incision and the leads are connected to the heart’s arteries. (1 or 2 leads) Probably would leave a bloody trail behind.

Well, there was a bloody trail on the porch floor.....

 

[cait2007]

Two people carrying. Two perpetrators.

Are we certain it would require two people to carry her? I don’t think it would.

 

[Cblewife]

IMO, it seems that SG brought her mother to NYC on many occasions and they attended social events and at least one special gala together. SG's colleagues and friends likely offered to take photos of them, and it could be that her brother and sister were with their mom in more regular situations where they didn't often take pictures (eg dinner at AG's house, etc). All JMO

It simply could be they're not celebrities and keep their lives more private. Just as they are much more reserved behind the camera and let SG take the lead. She's more comfortable in that position, if that's even remotely possible in this situation.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

In a new statement shared with USA TODAY on Feb. 15, the FBI elaborated that "approximately 16 gloves" have been collected near the Guthrie house, most of which "were searchers' gloves that they discarded in various areas when they searched the vicinity."

But investigators have also recovered gloves that appear to "match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video" released last week showing a man at Nancy Guthrie's front door, according to the FBI. The gloves, found "in a field near the side of the road," were sent to a private lab, and the FBI received preliminary results but is "awaiting quality control and official confirmation today before putting unknown male profile into" its database.

Nancy Guthrie search recovers gloves appearing to match suspect's

More than two weeks have passed since Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy, was last seen, and the search remains underway as DNA tests are ongoing.

www.usatoday.com

Excellent that this person's DNA from the gloves will be in the database very soon. MOO

 

[maskedwoman]

How is it a breakthrough? That glove could have come from anywhere. I see gloves, mittens, shoes, and other items alongside the road when I walk my dogs. Now, if the DNA comes back as a relative or someone else close to NG or someone who's already a person of interest then yes, that might be a breakthrough. IMO

I sure hope it's a breakthrough, but that's going to sound like one silly expert if it turns out to be nothing. Here's hoping this isn't Lantana man's first time being involved in a crime that qualifies for CODIS.

 

[Cryptic]

.This may seem off topic, but i'm asking for understanding of the theory going around about "burglary gone wrong" Can someone step me through what does a "burglary at 2am with a person at home going right" look like? How does that even work in a burglar's mind?

It may depend on the burglar. Perhaps:

- Burglar / sex predator: As the other poster mentioned, burglary maybe just a pretense for the real crime of sexual assault. Too horrible to really think about.

- Thrill burglar: One such burglar described targeting large, wealthy owned homes largely for thrills. He studied the lay out, noting bedroom locations, activity / sleep patterns etc. He then entered the home, either before or after all the occupants had gone to bed, then slipped out in minutes with out being noticed. Avoided the occupants and took small trophy items- though he would also grab obvious valuables if they were lying out.

- Bling buster / "rip off" burglar: Not a burglar but a home invasion crew. They think you have copious quantities of living large standard equipment. Which in their world means: Commercial quantities of drugs, pimped out guns, bling jewelry, "bands of cash", monster cars, and....yes, a safe absolutely stuffed with more of the preceding items (well, except the monster cars).

No effort at stealth, they use the sensory overload / overwhelming force approach to stop resistance. Orders are given to surrender all the expected goods double quick. If the goods largely don't exist (you are wealthy, but don't "live large"), they can get very uhmm..."irate" as they have minutes to struggle with losing face in front of their criminal associates, decide if you are "holding out" on the good stuff, or whether they should just leave disappointed

 

[Momtoapug]

Anyone else get the impression the Guthrie family is privately corresponding with one of the kidnapper or ransom note writers?

Yes, I think either that, or there is a well developed profile of the person, and she is attempting to really connect with them. It really is very sad. I hope the person’s heart melts just alittle and they do the right thing here. I still believe it was someone ovsessed with Savannah. MOO

 

[dotr]

[I agree with you, and out of curiosity I did a simple google search of "What professions are taught how to carry a lifeless body over shoulder?", and I am not sure of the RULES about posting this type of response but hoping I do not offend anyone or get slapped down for posting it... I am TRYING to just offer my own thoughts.... and the response was:

Several professions are trained in the

Fireman’s Carry (or Firefighter’s Carry), a specialized technique used to transport an unconscious or "lifeless" person over the shoulders. This method is preferred for moving a casualty over long distances because it distributes weight evenly across the rescuer's shoulders.

Primary Professions Using This Technique

• Military Personnel: Soldiers are extensively trained in the fireman's carry to evacuate wounded comrades from combat zones. It is specifically included in the U.S. Marine Corps Combat Fitness Test as part of the "Maneuver Under Fire" component.
• Firefighters: Historically the origin of the technique, firefighters are trained in this carry to move victims out of dangerous environments. However, modern firefighting often prioritizes dragging techniques to keep the victim closer to the ground, where the air is cooler and clearer.
• Lifeguards: Lifeguards may be trained in this method for transporting an unconscious victim across land (such as a beach) to a safe area for medical treatment.
• Police Officers: Law enforcement training often includes the fireman's carry for emergency rescue scenarios, such as moving an injured officer or civilian during active threats.
• First Responders (CERT/EMTs): Members of Community Emergency Response Teams (CERT) and some EMTs are taught the technique as an option for single-rescuer evacuations.

Specialized & Non-Emergency Contexts

• Martial Artists and Wrestlers: The technique is a fundamental move in freestyle wrestling (known as Kata Guruma in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu) used to take down an opponent by lifting them over the shoulders.
• Professional Wrestlers: Many professional wrestlers use variations of the fireman's carry (e.g., the Attitude Adjustment or Samoan Drop) as a setup for offensive moves. ]

IMO, In my own curiosity just a thought that the perpetrator may have been one of these (Former or current military, trained in wrestling or martial arts, or wrestling)?? Please delete if not allowed.

Also some dancers and athletes such as skaters, imo.

 

[Fargo]

[I agree with you, and out of curiosity I did a simple google search of "What professions are taught how to carry a lifeless body over shoulder?", and I am not sure of the RULES about posting this type of response but hoping I do not offend anyone or get slapped down for posting it... I am TRYING to just offer my own thoughts.... and the response was:

Several professions are trained in the

Fireman’s Carry (or Firefighter’s Carry), a specialized technique used to transport an unconscious or "lifeless" person over the shoulders. This method is preferred for moving a casualty over long distances because it distributes weight evenly across the rescuer's shoulders.

Primary Professions Using This Technique

• Military Personnel: Soldiers are extensively trained in the fireman's carry to evacuate wounded comrades from combat zones. It is specifically included in the U.S. Marine Corps Combat Fitness Test as part of the "Maneuver Under Fire" component.
• Firefighters: Historically the origin of the technique, firefighters are trained in this carry to move victims out of dangerous environments. However, modern firefighting often prioritizes dragging techniques to keep the victim closer to the ground, where the air is cooler and clearer.
• Lifeguards: Lifeguards may be trained in this method for transporting an unconscious victim across land (such as a beach) to a safe area for medical treatment.
• Police Officers: Law enforcement training often includes the fireman's carry for emergency rescue scenarios, such as moving an injured officer or civilian during active threats.
• First Responders (CERT/EMTs): Members of Community Emergency Response Teams (CERT) and some EMTs are taught the technique as an option for single-rescuer evacuations.

Specialized & Non-Emergency Contexts

• Martial Artists and Wrestlers: The technique is a fundamental move in freestyle wrestling (known as Kata Guruma in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu) used to take down an opponent by lifting them over the shoulders.
• Professional Wrestlers: Many professional wrestlers use variations of the fireman's carry (e.g., the Attitude Adjustment or Samoan Drop) as a setup for offensive moves. ]

IMO, In my own curiosity just a thought that the perpetrator may have been one of these (Former or current military, trained in wrestling or martial arts, or wrestling)?? Please delete if not allowed.

Yes, I've had those professions in the back of my mind. Also people who hunt, camp or hike off grid. It's wise to know how to carry your injured buddy out. IMO

 

[TheDinks]

Are we certain it would require two people to carry her? I don’t think it would.

Everything is speculation and everyone is entitled to their opinions (except when facts disprove opinions)

'We' aren't certain about anything... how can we be when we know very little about what actually happened.

 

[MarciB]

I disagree that this is an infatuation for SG. I am not saying that her fame has nothing to do with this, it may have. Also, I believe more than 1 person is involved.

How can a missing mom be an infatuation?

 

[Forest_Wood]

No I wouldn't assume a sexual motivation. Also, SG would be much harder to approach with security guards, access etc. He went for her mom to get as close as he could to SG and to keep her engaged on a personal level. He may WANT SG to beg. Just like he has probably begged in some fashion to her in social media or even silently in his brain. JMO

I love your confidence about your theory. What makes you feel so certain this is an obsessed fan?

 

[Fargo]

But there's still gravity.

My garden hose has surprised me more than once after I've shut it off at the spigot. It's like that. IMO

 

[jopalyii]

OR, someone Didn’t want the will changed

Or didn’t want the house sold. No body & no murder scene means an official death ruling may take years. That house won’t be able to be sold.

 

[thefragile7393]

I noticed in the video with the “only thing that will give us peace,” that all three of them looked down and closed their eyes at that moment. Wonder why? It’d be a hell of a coincidence.

Not sure why this would be much of anything to think about IMO