AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SlimPickens]

This is a state crime. How would the DOJ request max penalty.

A federal warrant was issued the other day for the latest SWAT raid. A federal judge can only issue a federal warrant for suspected violations of federal law. It also suggests that federal law enforcement believes that this crime contains at least some of the elements that makes it a federal crime. Kidnapping, for example, is a state crime unless or until it can be demonstrated that it either involves interstate commerce and/or crosses state/national boundaries.

If, for example, the FBI through the course of their investigation found compelling evidence that the ransom demand likely came from the same person or persons that committed this crime, then that would meet federal elements to make a kidnapping charge a federal charge since that demand contained an email IP address that probably bounced all over the world, and a demand for a transnational digital currency to be deposited into an account that likely will be sourced and accessed from outside the US.

JMO.

 

[MagicalMysteryTour]

IMO many people wouldn't have thought of using the stem of a plant to get the nest cam off the door. This lantana guy is calm, casual, not stressed and, in this case, good at quickly solving a practical problem. Still curious how his actions and demeanor could be seemingly so relaxed and casual in the midst of what was taking place inside the house. JMO

I suspect that the Perp is a psychopath based on willingness to engage in antisocial activities combined with how calm and composed his demeanour is (based on body language) particularly when faced with a stressful situation that could lead to their identification (the unexpected nest camera). Normally, a person would panic or at least display body language indicative of uncertainty and stress when faced with an unexpected and alarming situation.

If this is the case and the Perp is a psychopath, then SG's appeals will fall on deaf ears as the Perp will not feel empathy or compassion in response to her pleas. He may instead derive some form of gratification from viewing her discomfort and the knowledge that he still maintains "control" over the family through his "possession" of NG.

The best negotiating tactic when dealing with a psychopathic abductor/hostage taker is to focus on communicating directly with the Perp and provide an "off ramp" which I notice that SG did in the latest video appeal.

I won't say what else I suspect about the Perp's psychological profile based on his body language from the nest camera and activities at NG's residence, suffice to say that I hope i'm wrong.

All MOO.

 

[wibbleflea]

There seems to be something in this but no reporting by reputable sources that I’ve seen.

There’s also some verifiably insane reporting But I agree that things do look promising and if they pan out, they help explain the searches, etc. We’ll know soon, I hope. I was surprised to see everyone released after those last searches but perhaps the right things are happening behind the scenes.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

A federal warrant was issued the other day for the latest SWAT raid. A federal judge can only issue a federal warrant for suspected violations of federal law. It also suggests that federal law enforcement believes that this crime contains at least some of the elements that makes it a federal crime. Kidnapping, for example, is a state crime unless or until it can be demonstrated that it either involves interstate commerce and/or crosses state/national boundaries.

If, for example, the FBI through the course of their investigation found compelling evidence that the ransom demand likely came from the same person or persons that committed this crime, then that would meet federal elements to make a kidnapping charge a federal charge since that demand contained an email IP address that probably bounced all over the world, and a demand for a transnational digital currency to be deposited into an account that likely will be sourced and accessed from outside the US.

JMO.

So if they literally asked for cash in a briefcase, it’d be a state crime?

 

[submarine7]

I’ve wondered about another mask too, but it’s his mouth that looks odd to me (what little we see of it). Yet he held that little light in his mouth. I can’t imagine doing that with a mask.

I think? the weird mouth might be part of the mask.

 

[submarine7]

I’ve wondered about another mask too, but it’s his mouth that looks odd to me (what little we see of it). Yet he held that little light in his mouth. I can’t imagine doing that with a mask.

I think? the weird mouth might be part of the mask.

 

[SouthAussie]

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[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Agree! If you are cleared, that should not have to be 'backed up' by locating a solid suspect elsewhere.

For the Sheriff to be able to clear the family, the Sheriff may believe that they have identified their suspects through DNA that places them at the crime scene, vehicles, cell phones etc.

All just my opinion but it seems that the only way he can clear the family is to be sure, based on DNA at the crime scene and other evidence, that they know who the suspects are.

JMHO

 

[Napoli]

I think this is quite possible. But why would the kidnapper give this kind of direction?

Because he can! He has SG , the object of his twisted affection, exactly where he wants her. He is making her submissive. jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Investigators working on the disappearance of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother are consulting with Walmart management to develop leads because a backpack the suspect was wearing is sold exclusively at the stores, the Pima County, Arizona, sheriff said Monday

Pima Count Sheriff Chris Nanos said in a text message to The Associated Press on Monday that the 25-liter “Ozark Trail Hiker Pack” backpack was the only clothing item that has been “definitively identified.”


“This backpack is exclusive to Walmart and we are working with Walmart management to develop further leads,” Nanos said.

The suspect’s clothing “may have been purchased from Walmart but is not exclusively available at Walmart,” the Pima County Sheriff’s Department said in a statement Monday. “This remains a possibility only.”

Nancy Guthrie kidnapping investigators work with Walmart after identifying suspect’s backpack

Investigators working on the disappearance of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother are consulting with Walmart management to develop leads.

www.boston25news.com

Detectives hunting for Nancy Guthrie have been handed their most “promising” lead yet, a former top cop told The Post — after Walmart handed over purchase records that could finally help crack the case.

Investigators are hoping to track down more information about the backpack and gun holster Guthrie’s alleged kidnapper was seen wearing in doorbell camera footage, both sold at Walmart.

“The backpack and the holster are both very promising leads,” Betsy Brantner Smith of the National Police Association told The Post, speaking from Pima County where she lives, after retiring in 2009 as a detective in Naperville, Ill.

Walmart backpack is a ‘very promising lead’ in Nancy Guthrie case, expert says: ‘All you do is work backwards’

But the former detective warned investigators face a long, meticulous process of combing through thousands of hours of footage from various Walmart stores.

nypost.com

 

[cherryleaf]

what is everyone's theory so far?

i honestly have no idea. certain information has been "reported" but not confirmed by LE, so who knows if it's true or not. i don't have a theory, but i will say i still don't rule anyone or any scenario out until we know more directly from LE.

moo

I said this before but I believe it’s either someone she knows, distant relative, or friend of a friend type thing. I don’t think it’s anyone in her “immediate circle.” I also believe this could tie into some type of delusion related to NG/SG. So that’s where I’m at.
I believe there is more than one person involved in her disappearance, at least one man and one woman. I believe it’s a silver/ grey vehicle with dark rims. I believe it was targeted. I believe she is still alive but in extreme danger of passing as things with her and whomever possibly has her are reaching a critical point. Her needs were underestimated and the walls are beginning to close in around the perp(s)

Prayers for Nancy and family.

MOO

 

[Cassie P]

wonder if it was a sort of test like "how well do they follow directions and how serious are they taking this?"
or maybe i'm giving too much credit and they did it just to be a clown

moo

1. Yes he could just be a narcissistic grandstander who likes the control and power. Some of these sadistic types make people say or do foolish things, they love the cruelty and hurt.

2. Or perhaps it is just business. Kidnapper is negotiating price and return. SG has instructions to say certain things if she agrees.

 

[SlimPickens]

So if they literally asked for cash in a briefcase, it’d be a state crime?

I'm pretty sure that cash is federal jurisdiction by nature of what it is and who prints it, and would be considered interstate commerce by default. But hopefully someone else will chime in to clarify if my understanding isn't fully correct.

JMO.

 

[teeandcee]

Here’s hoping Walmart….once again…..helps identify this criminal.

 

[Cassie P]

Because he can! He has SG , the object of his twisted affection, exactly where he wants her. He is making her submissive. jmo

Yes I just posted the same kind of thing. Typical of a narcissistic psychopath.
Or the kidnapper is negotiating price and return and is instructing the family to speak in code if they agree.

 

[Laura Avery]

I'm sick of the ransom note writer(s) toying with this family. It seems like they've only given a bunch of bs in an attempt to extort this family. I don't believe they have any useful information. MOO

I thought the bedroom perhaps was located on this side of the home, but have some seen a few posts suggesting it was not. As far as letting her out at the garage, I'm sure the car would have been pulled up in such a manor NG could get out and walk in, without having to walk around car doors etc. I could also envision the garage door not being let up until she was ready to walk in and it being closed as soon as she unlocked the interior door to the house. Doable in two minutes. MOO.

Someone posted quite a while back a trial in the dirt, showing parallel tracks. It is unknown if these tracks were made prior to her disappearance. Some suggested they could have come from a safe, garden tool carrier, deer transporter, or even a police evidence cart...with 2 and 3 being a way to transport her body. MOO

He did. And now he has finally said the family is cleared. I don't think we have to know how they were cleared, just that they have been. MOO

Really don't see anything reported on news, just a trail of blood, not tracks. Anyone find the offical posts on this? Thanks

 

[imstilla.grandma]

TMZ is guaranteeing a $50,000 reward if the mystery man who has been emailing the gossip site comes forward with information that leads the FBI to Nancy Guthrie.

An anonymous tipster has now written TMZ a total of four times, claiming he knows where the abducted grandmother is being held and hinting that she may have been taken to Mexico by multiple captors.

The emailer is demanding payment in Bitcoin to reveal her location, as he supposedly does not trust law enforcement. The email’s author says he fears a decade-old burglary arrest may cause investigators to view him as a suspect, TMZ reports.

If they find her, and they find the kidnapper, then at least there is evidence because we have it, that you're the one who provided the information. So this is a way for you to get that money if this really is legitimate," he added.

The note itself included alarming assertions. Levin quoted the letter as stating: "I know what I saw five days ago south of the border, and I was told to shut up, so I know who he is, and that was definitely Nancy with them."

TMZ Makes Offer to Man Demanding Bitcoin to Reveal Where Nancy Guthrie Is

An anonymous tipster is refusing to speak with law enforcement, so TMZ is pleading with them to share information directly with the site.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

There’s also some verifiably insane reporting But I agree that things do look promising and if they pan out, they help explain the searches, etc. We’ll know soon, I hope. I was surprised to see everyone released after those last searches but perhaps the right things are happening behind the scenes.

Just because they were released after the search does not mean they are not the perpetrators. They may end up being charged and LE and FBI were waiting to get additional solid evidence such as DNA linking the suspects to the crime scene. JMHO

 

[Ltiger4]

She quoted from the movie Tomorrowland . See this post for further details
Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026'
AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

I see that people are saying that those quotes are from that movie, and I’ve read that post you included, but I’d like confirmation from an actual source that George Clooney says those lines in the movie. Google and ChatGPT say no.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

TMZ is guaranteeing a $50,000 reward if the mystery man who has been emailing the gossip site comes forward with information that leads the FBI to Nancy Guthrie.

An anonymous tipster has now written TMZ a total of four times, claiming he knows where the abducted grandmother is being held and hinting that she may have been taken to Mexico by multiple captors.

The emailer is demanding payment in Bitcoin to reveal her location, as he supposedly does not trust law enforcement. The email’s author says he fears a decade-old burglary arrest may cause investigators to view him as a suspect, TMZ reports.

TMZ Makes Offer to Man Demanding Bitcoin to Reveal Where Nancy Guthrie Is

An anonymous tipster is refusing to speak with law enforcement, so TMZ is pleading with them to share information directly with the site.

www.thedailybeast.com

Valid fear. But if he knows where NG is being held, there also is a chance that he is an accessory to this crime. JMO