AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Angleterre]

Hey folks,

Websleuths is primarily LE friendly. Each case is different and it's not always an easy job. In any case there may be issues, but this discussion is not the "Lets Bash the Sheriff" thread. It is a thread dedicated to discussion of Nancy's case and not a chit chat place for people to vent their dislike of LE. That is in no way productive or helpful.

If all you can think of in this discussion is to bash the Sheriff, perhaps there are other threads where your energy and input might be more productive.

Maybe pop into the Missing forum and find a thread that you might be interested in or helpful even, maybe just to add a note of encouragement to family members to let them know they and their loved one are not forgotten. Or if whatever you have to say is off topic, head on over to the Give Us This Day Our Daily Thread where members talk about all sorts of things.

This terrible case is obviously a very difficult one. Please let's just stay on board with trying to figure out what happened to Nancy.

Thanks.

Well said @Sillybilly

 

[flakesofsnow]

Why would the person writing the ransom note think it was important to say what NG was wearing that night? Is the note referring to what she wore earlier when NG was out or what she wore to bed.
“Nanos told CBS News that the news station agreed not to report on the note. He said it contained details about Nancy’s home and what she was wearing that night, but he did not confirm whether those details were accurate or whether the note was legitimate, CBS News reported.”

 

[SpideySense]

My heart sank hearing about the challenges with the DNA inside the house... About it being degraded/not viable for being entered into Codis.

What’s this now? Nanos said back on 2/17 that the DNA from inside the house had been analyzed and 1) didn’t match the DNA found in the glove, and 2) didn’t match any profile in CODIS. So it was already entered into CODIS.

Is there possibly some confusion about the DNA not being currently viable for entry into genealogical databases as opposed to CODIS?

 

[Turkeytrot]

What’s this now? Nanos said back on 2/17 that the DNA from inside the house had been analyzed and 1) didn’t match the DNA found in the glove, and 2) didn’t match any profile in CODIS. So it was already entered into CODIS.

Is there possibly some confusion about the DNA not being currently viable for entry into genealogical databases as opposed to CODIS?
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This is what I've been seeing reported, going to snip and link article

"The DNA sample found in Nancy Guthrie's home is reportedly unable to be entered into CODIS.

"The DNA found inside Nancy Guthrie’s home was only a partial sample and was not viable for CODIS, a source familiar with the investigation tells me," wrote NewsNation's Libbey Dean via X on Tuesday, Feb. 24."

DNA from Nancy Guthrie Investigation Can’t Be Entered Into CODIS, Sources Say - AOL DNA from Nancy Guthrie Investigation Can’t Be Entered Into CODIS, Sources Say

 

[UK Girl]

dbm

 

[SpideySense]

This is what I've been seeing reported, going to snip and link article

"The DNA sample found in Nancy Guthrie's home is reportedly unable to be entered into CODIS.

"The DNA found inside Nancy Guthrie’s home was only a partial sample and was not viable for CODIS, a source familiar with the investigation tells me," wrote NewsNation's Libbey Dean via X on Tuesday, Feb. 24."

DNA from Nancy Guthrie Investigation Can’t Be Entered Into CODIS, Sources Say - AOL DNA from Nancy Guthrie Investigation Can’t Be Entered Into CODIS, Sources Say

Yes, I’ve seen those reports now too. I’m thinking either something was lost in translation between the leakers and the reporter where the leakers meant the genealogical databases and the reporter thought CODIS, or the “no match” for CODIS that Nanos reported on the 17th re the house DNA was real but perhaps based on bare minimum fragments that the FBI doesn’t believe resulted in a true “no match,” or there were two samples of DNA collected from the house on different days (I seem to recall Nanos mentioning “additional DNA” found at the house) and the first sample was substantial enough to run through CODIS and compare with family and the glove DNA but the later sample is the “mixed” one and is more problematic. Clear as mud.

 

[Warshawski]

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Ok. I am just going to say it. Why does he wear his gun like it's his male appendage in a sack? That's just not any kind of gun carrying mode I have ever seen. What's he hiding or flaunting? JMO

I’ve looked at these pictures until I’m almost cross eyed ! … certainly an interesting / not the usual position for a gun / holster imo. .. also imo it just looks weird.

Perp is holding with Left hand in this pic but I don’t think gun ( if it is one) is placed in the holster for a L hand draw. I think it’s placed for a R hand draw.

Maybe ‘he’ pulled the lantana with L hand to ensure the R hand was free & ready at all times.

It’s also struck me how the perp approaches / into the entry with head down as if in a hiding position - but then is prepared to be straight on to camera in attempts to cover & disable it.

Seems odd to me. Were they hiding from possible recognition from street ?

Also ( because I’ve gone cross-eyed) would someone please check the pics of with & without back pack, at entry to the porch … please have a look at the white rocks or pots or whatever they are between path and the bigger Black thingy.

Are they different ? ?

(Feel free to tell me it’s time I gave up & went to sleep !)

 

[Indoorsy]

Is it possible he was testing whether or not the camera would trigger a response, No police

So impressed with SG's video as I watched it a second time. For a national media personality to show that kind of vulnerability, that kind of raw grief and anxiety, that kind of conscientiousness, that kind of consideration, that kind of self-awareness, and that kind of humility, speaks volumes about the kind of mother that raised her.

JMO.

I have not heard or read anything about whether the home had an alarm system.

I do know that homes with alarm systems often have a control panel, where you set/arm the system or disarm the system, near the door that leads into the garage. There is often another control panel somewhere in the house. Depending on the location of the control panel, a person outside of the house could determine whether the alarm system was armed/on (red light) or off (green light) simply by looking in a window or glass door. Therefore, a person standing outside of a house equipped with an alarm system could possibly see the status of the alarm system.

My home has a few similarities to Nancy's, so had to go check this out and yep, you can see two of our alarm panels from two different vantage points outside without much difficulty..scary.. Of course, we have no idea if she had an alarm system, etc. but logically you would think so and it makes sense that the perp was testing the security or lack of prior to the night of the abduction.

 

[Warshawski]

The ransom notes were sent via encrypted email through the media portals, so internet was used. So IMO, ransom notes are FED jurisdiction.

JMO

I wonder if they know who’s behind these but since not involved in NG’s disappearance they’re holding off on that arrest ?

Not sure why they’d do that, but I’m also a bit puzzled that they can’t get this information. Skilled tech / www people can track everything …

 

[No it's not]

And then there are the “other”, the folks who get wrongly accused and now fear for themselves. Deep pitfall here..
This article from the NYT is still accessible this morning. Just a read, not a discussion please.

Online Accusations in Guthrie Abduction Leave One Family ‘Scared Numb’

A fifth-grade teacher and his principal wife hid in their bedroom as dozens of people who believed he might be a kidnapper appeared on their suburban street.

www.nytimes.com

-Nin