AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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I’m currently catching up im on page 200 out of 258 so I apologise if this has been mentioned.

For me this person HAS to be somebody who knew that ring door bell would not record - or they’ve just got EXTREMELY lucky.

I feel these door bells need to be looked at in future surely for crime purposes they need to have some sort of backup if you haven’t paid the subscription which at least lasts a few days which law enforcement can access.
 
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I do not see anyone in the family being involved whatsoever, JMO. NG is 84 and I hate to say this but life doesn’t last forever. If this was a family member who was after inheritance, why do all of this and risk their whole life, when realistically NG isn’t going to live forever? What would the benefit be in staging this crime against someone whose time is already somewhat limited? Additionally, her health wasn’t great to begin with. If it was someone close to her, I’d imagine the “easier” and less risky route would be poisoning her. Not only would it draw far less attention, but it’s possible nobody would even question it given her health and age. There would just be no reason for any of them to do all of this if their goal was to harm NG and collect inheritance. JMO.
The only thing I can think of is a family member getting into an argument with NG over future inheritance, and the argument is so heated that it escalates to severe injury that can't be reported. Then kidnapping staged as a misdirection.
 
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What does this mean… biological evidence?

In response to reporter asking if there is any other physical evidence?

He basically says we processed the scene for biological evidence and we are still hopeful that maybe something will show up there.
About 1:04:40 in
 
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The amount of blood by the front door...I personally don't think it looks like a life threatening amount. Can they figure out how long the blood was there? I think it's a significant amount that would have required a bandage at least. Thinking about if it could have been there for a few days from an injury completely unrelated.

Where is Nancy!?
Tricia said yesterday this Tiktok was allowed from this forensic scientist, former CSI, blood stain spatter specialist yesterday so bringing i it up again for anyone who might have missed it.

It's about the blood outside and it's quite interesting, IMO.

 
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An opinion from a retired FBI agent.

“I feel that this was targeted,” former Special Agent Tracy Walder at the FBI’s Los Angeles Field Office told The Post.

“Her house is set pretty far back… It’s on almost an acre of land. This isn’t a place where the houses are really close together and people are looking for whatever’s an easy opportunity,” she said.

“I don’t think some kind of botched robbery, because if it’s a robbery, you don’t want to burden yourself with a person that you’re taking out,” added Walder, who also previously served as Staff Operations Officer at the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center.

More at All the clues that Nancy Guthrie was targeted, as ex-FBI agent offers chilling new abduction theory
 
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Is this press conference the first time we have heard about this 'floodlight'?

How did I manage to miss that?

A broken floodlight?

We didn't. But it sounds like the ransomer did.

JMO
 
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The 5pm deadline is coming up. Do we think we'd hear anything or see LE movement tonight? Might not since the deadline isn't even firm. IMO, I don't think the family pays it out unless the kidnapper has reached out between this morning and now.

JMO
 
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Yes. Say the motive was money and NG was planning to cut them out of her will for one reason or another. Say that meant millions and millions of dollars if she passed sooner rather than later... that's motive and that would be enough for a psychopathic person to put out a hit on her.
i don't know that NG was worth millions and millions of dollars.....
 
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she is a poet.
So she's a poet and he's a teacher. They just bought a house last year for 650 thousand something? Is that a normal amount with these jobs? Idk if being a poet is a job tho 🤔 Maybe SG helped with funding so they can look after mom a bit? Where i live (Netherlands) no way with these jobs it's possible to afford a home of this value so i really have no idea
 
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Screenshot from that Fox news interview above
Well that closes the loop for me. It begins 5:32PM with gig driver.... I think it ends with the same... who regularly drives late at night take customers home from the bars? Perfect reason to be in the area and have a vehicle to drive "a victim" away, too.
Oh Lord...forgive me for my bad thoughts... but I just had to say it.
 
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she is a poet.
I'm all for art but in most cases this isn't a source of income, more likely the exact opposite. If they live within a 10 minutes drive of NG it's pretty much the same area, so very nice suburban Tucson. From what I've learned here the about the price of real estate out there, admittedly know knowing that much about the details and so forth and so on (I'm not from the USA), a teacher and a poet (without some additional source of income) would be out of their league a bit out there, wouldn't they?
 
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when you look at motive a big inheritance from NG has to have family looked at very closely. Obviously SG and husband do not need the money, Camron in another state and you are left with Annie and husband.
I'm not able to read every reply in this thread due to time constraints.

Has there been any indication NG has a significantly large estate?
 
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Sound Cloud acct of SIL. He is in this band. First song was Life:Love::Love:Murder..... Again, not any association with the crime or disappearance, just insight into the person perhaps.
 
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Is it possible that they think this is some kind of orchestrated plan, ie there are people involved who didn't do the deed itself? Maybe there's something to suggest that inside information was needed, or people with something obvious to gain. But all the 'insiders' appear clear.

Another thing I noticed from the presser was that the FBI guy was asked something like 'what kind of criminal are we looking for?' ie he was asked for a kind of 'profile'. He quite purposefully refused to be drawn on that question.
Yeah it’s certainly possible, but in that case you’d expect the body to still be there.

By playing it that way you create the necessary distance, as you’re in the clear alibi wise, and the perpetrator is in the clear because they don’t have a direct connection to the victim.
 
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Tricia said yesterday this Tiktok was allowed from this forensic scientist, former CSI, blood stain spatter specialist yesterday so bringing i it up again for anyone who might have missed it.

It's about the blood outside and it's quite interesting, IMO.

I appreciate the link, but feel compelled to warn newbies when you look at a TikTok link shared by someone, it can tell them who viewed the TikTok and your account. If you value your privacy, be warned.
 
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The 5pm deadline is coming up. Do we think we'd hear anything or see LE movement tonight? Might not since the deadline isn't even firm. IMO, I don't think the family pays it out unless the kidnapper has reached out between this morning and now.

JMO
Unfortunately, I don't they clarified the timezone of the deadline in the press conference.
 
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The amount of blood by the front door...I personally don't think it looks like a life threatening amount. Can they figure out how long the blood was there? I think it's a significant amount that would have required a bandage at least. Thinking about if it could have been there for a few days from an injury completely unrelated.

Where is Nancy!?
Certainly not alarming. When I tried to break up a potential fight between my cat and a raccoon, my cat in his fury bit and attacked ME ! The amount of blood was terrible, pooled all over the floors whilst rushing to the sink to clean it. At the urgent care next day I didn't even need stitches, just a double dose of antibiotics. I'm not young either.

More worried about Nancy's psychological state and heart than those blood drops.
 
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I'm not sure she drives now, based on the fact that she took an Uber to her daughter’s house, which is only 10 minutes away.
Possible she doesn't drive at night and knew she wouldn't be comfortable driving home. Then if Annie and husband are preparing dinner
So she's a poet and he's a teacher. They just bought a house last year for 650 thousand something? Is that a normal amount with these jobs? Idk if being a poet is a job tho 🤔 Maybe SG helped with funding so they can look after mom a bit? Where i live (Netherlands) no way with these jobs it's possible to afford a home of this value so i really have no idea
Am I the only one who doesn't think the price of the house is ridiculous? Yes, he's a teacher and we don't know exactly how Annie earns money. But they are in their late 50's and wealth does accumulate. Maybe Nancy helped them, maybe Savannah did, maybe no one did. I know teachers in my area who have similarly priced homes. It's only slightly above the national median. Real estate is ridiculous now. I don't think the price of their home means anything.
 
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I do not see anyone in the family being involved whatsoever, JMO. NG is 84 and I hate to say this but life doesn’t last forever. If this was a family member who was after inheritance, why do all of this and risk their whole life, when realistically NG isn’t going to live forever? What would the benefit be in staging this crime against someone whose time is already somewhat limited? Additionally, her health wasn’t great to begin with. If it was someone close to her, I’d imagine the “easier” and less risky route would be poisoning her. Not only would it draw far less attention, but it’s possible nobody would even question it given her health and age. There would just be no reason for any of them to do all of this if their goal was to harm NG and collect inheritance. JMO.

My thoughts as well.


For a family member who would already be in the line of an inheritance, or whose spouse would be, this IMO would be a reckless way to get the money sooner.

Nancy is 84. Even if she lived ten more years, a family member doing this is on a high-wire act. So much can go wrong and you’ll never see the money if you get caught.

Which I fervently hope will be the case, no matter who did this.
 
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