AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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An agent just retrieved a heavy-looking black duffel bag from the truck along with what appear to be paper evidence bags. Screen grab from the 12News KPNX live stream (timestamp 5:25pm MST)
Screenshot 2026-02-04 at 7.25.55 PM.webp
 
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Locals, is the soil there caliche and rocky or more sandy? Just curious how that might play into their grid search. TIA
Bbm.
Was going to inquire, but decided to look up "caliche" in wiki. :)


Caliche is a hardened, whitish-gray layer of soil cemented by calcium carbonate, found commonly in arid regions like the American Southwest, Australia, and the Kalahari Desert. It acts as a natural, durable construction material for unpaved roads and cement, forming in dry climates where soil evaporation exceeds precipitation.

Caliche.webp


Sad to type this : So, if the worst happened to Nancy, it'd be difficult to bury/conceal her in that area ?
Still hoping she's somehow alive.
Jmo.
 
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It actually happens all the time. I can think of two recent cases where family members continued to live in bloody crime scenes, and CSI teams had to return multiple times during that period (it made no difference in the end).

Here it looks like the search is located outside the house, which isn't as bad.
JBR for one (not so much bloody but nothing cordoned off and people and family trampling in and out of the house)....
 
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Ed Lavandera CNN: Group of law enforcement enters the garage. An officer grabbed evidence bags from his truck. Can't make out the agencies, but the number of officers is significant.
 
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Anyone know if these homes have a crawl space or are they built on slab?
 
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I would have thought they would have searched all containers and other things in the garage on day 1.
 
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Hi! First time posting ever:) Is it possible that a suspect/POI started talking and gave the investigators information about where she could be found, and that is why they are back searching a specific area?
Definitely possible, and hopefully that's the case.

There other reasons why this might be the case though.
 
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How do you refresh as new text comes in.
Left hand top of your screen there is a circle arrow thingy - that refreshes your feed.
 
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There was a reporter on CNN yesterday who showed a video he took of him driving and walking all around NG’s neighborhood at night to give viewers an idea of the area.

When he turned off his flashlight it was so dark, pitch black, that you wouldn’t be able to see your hand put up in front of your face.

He said the homes there are all located on large 1+ acre lots and the way the homes are situated on those lots makes each home isolated from the next. He said there are also some slight hills in the neighborhood which makes it difficult to have a straight, clear view from one house to the next. He commented that he doubted that home video or Ring doorbell cameras would be able to capture anything from their neighbors homes due to the way the homes were situated.

It was very informative and I looked all over for the video online last night but I wasn’t able to locate it.
5m video

BE says LE was back at/in AG's house.

The current, massive search is at NG's.
 
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Ed Lavandera CNN: Group of law enforcement enters the garage. An officer grabbed evidence bags from his truck. Can't make out the agencies, but the number of officers is significant.
What kind of evidence is go get it right now in the garage evidence?

Murder weapon….
 
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Anyone know if these homes have a crawl space or are they built on slab?
Mostly slab. There are some older houses that do have crawl spaces underneath, but if her house is on fairly level ground, it's likely to be a slab.
 
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Police and what appear to be feds just showed up at Nancy Guthrie’s house. They are staging in the driveway and appear to be planning to do some kind of search.


Hate to say this but does she own any large upright or chest freezers ?
I am thinking of a very old case where they thought to look into one.
Highly probable that LE know a ton of information but are rightly saying nothing, outside of possible leaks.
Omo.
 
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They clearly are working some angle. Hopefully this case is resolved tonight and the family can get some answers.

I agree with the other commenters that it seems LE released the home far too quickly. JMO
 
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Has it been said where SG is staying? If I was staying at a siblings house I would know if there is weird energy.
 
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ICAC involved? Oh no... the investigation possibly uncovered other crimes?
 
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Also 9:30PM is a late time for an 84 year old woman to be out and about.

Er, depends on the circadian rhythms. There are 13% of skylarks, 16% of night owls and four more types of different rhythms.
 
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Sad to type this : So, if the worst happened to Nancy, it'd be difficult to bury/conceal her in that area ?
Still hoping she's somehow alive.
Jmo.

Yup!

Unless it was planned in advance with a lot of time to dig with good tools. We've broken heavy duty shovels trying to remove some native vegetation.

Hiding her under scrub or cacti, etc. definitely is possible there though.

It also doesn't show footprints well. Drag marks or tire tracks do better, but footprints aren't evident in many areas.
 

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