AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Bodhi]

Presumably whoever called the family was known to them as an acquaintance of Nancy, but if Nancy hadn't driven to the church for years, the person would know that. If they usually chatted with Nancy after the livestream, and she wasn't on the chat that isn't a reason to panic, unless the person tried to call her to see if she was ok and no answer. Maybe THAT is why the family just went to check on her and THEN discovered something was amiss and called the police??? Hopefully, everyone knew who this person was....

I agree. It is easy for the sheriff to verify the congregant is a real person and that they called the family member. That's why I put more stock in the sheriff's account than the Daily Mail's single unnamed source.

 

[ab01]

McCabe's analysis is a stretch, IMO. I have a tough time believing that they would go and plead for a legitimate ransom demand. Indeed, that the ransom demands they received so far were not legitimate, but there may be one out there!

I do agree with him that whoever sent the current ransom iteration isn't in the Guinness Book for intellectual prowess.

One thing that holds me up about the ransom demand is that there evidently wasn't one left at the scene, which would've been far more efficient (and less dangerous!) for any kidnapper. But we do live in a world of fame craved folks. Doesn't matter the kind of fame lots of times.

JMO.

It very could be that they can’t verify the current ransom demands but can’t disregard them totally and are at a crossroads. The usual suspects haven’t panned out and they want to leave no stone unturned as they move outward. I don’t believe the ransom angle will lead anywhere, but I do understand why they would want to stay open to it. moo

 

[SlimPickens]

It very could be that they can’t verify the current ransom demands but can’t disregard them totally and are at a crossroads. The usual suspects haven’t panned out and they want to leave no stone unturned as they move outward. I don’t believe the ransom angle will lead anywhere, but I do understand why they would want to stay open to it. moo

Not disagreeing, but I'm skeptical that law enforcement would put the family through a production like that without some kind of viability as to its legitimacy. Would be a cruel thing to do to them, IMO.

"Hey you know, we don't really have anything at all, but just in case do y'all want to make a video for us on the outside shot someone wants something for her?"

JMO.

 

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New Ashleigh Banfield video just posted tonight at 10:30pm PST

 

[Bodhi]

This is a hard case to get a handle on. There's so many ways this could go. I'm in BC Canada and we are dealing with a lot of extortions and shootings ,in a way I can see kidnappings and ransoms happening now a days. I just feel sorry for Nancy and her family ,I hope they will find her alive but hope they find her. There's so much out there but no idea what's true any more .jmvho

I am inclined to wonder if this is political, like someone seeking retribution for her daughter's coverage of something awful like the Epstein files or for Nancy's own opinions. The atmosphere is ugly IMO. Teachers and librarians, for goodness sake, are routinely threatened with violence. Stochastic terrorism encourages isolated individuals to act violently. My fear is that something Nancy did or posted online or maybe her connection to her journalist daughter made her a target of an unhinged person. MOO.

 

[justwannahelp]

ICAC?! Well that’s from left field.

Nevermind. I now see ICAC does the whole phone techy thing, so i don’t want to let my mind think the worst.

 

[Charlot123]

Perhaps Savannah has alot of crypto. She would be who they expect to profit from.

It is more about: they think it won’t be traceable. Also, they know that Savannah is a good daughter.

 

[Deepinthought52]

New Ashleigh Banfield video just posted tonight at 10:30pm PST

Okay. Let’s say they have insider info and have a suspect. AB needs to let LE do their job and not announce “insider” info until they are ready to share. What she is doing is not helpful. She can give her opinions yes, but to me she crossed the line. Surely she kniws people will dpread this as fact. Moo

 

[Charlot123]

The Daily Mail article casts doubt on the official timeline that a congregant contacted Nancy Guthrie's family about her absence after church on Sunday morning. It's clickbait, in my opinion.

The Daily Mail states Nancy Guthrie had not attended church services in person since Covid, and her absence on Sunday would not have been noteworthy.

It states the church livestreamed services. That's passive viewing. Viewers cannot see who else is viewing the livestream. They cannot communicate with other viewers or the host. Therefore, according to the Daily Mail, another congregant could not have noted whether Nancy was viewing on Sunday.

The implication is that either the congregant or the family member who claimed a congregant contacted them is lying.

Please note the Daily Mail's claim that Nancy didn't attend church in person is based on a single unidentified source. It doesn't cite a source that the church livestreams services rather than using a platform like Zoom where her absence could have been noted. (Zoom allows active participation: everyone can see who else is participating and communicate with each other in a sidebar.) Or even if the church livestreamed, as @Inthedetails said, Nancy and others could have had a separate group chat open during the service to sustain community.

I don't put a lot of stock in the Daily Mail reporting. Until the sheriff states otherwise, I accept that a congregant noticed Nancy's absence and contacted a family member. MOO.

Shocking truth about mystery tip off that sparked Nancy Guthrie search

Fresh doubt has been cast on the tip off that first led to alarms being raised over Nancy Guthrie's shock abduction this weekend, the Daily Mail can reveal.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If I remember correctly, Suzanne Morphew, too, missed her Zoom church during COVID and the parishioners got anxious.

I don’t see anything unusual in it.

First, I doubt that it was a mega-church. If I were to guess, it is some local, likely, Protestant church that much depends on a steady flow of parishioners. Live-streaming means, people could log in and yes, communicate.

Now, whether it was Zoom or another app, but people leave donations, right? Many apps allow to donate online, or at least they can broadcast a link.

So all that the church had to see would be an aberration in the pattern; every Sunday an old local lady would be present online. And then one Sunday it doesn’t happen.

Knowing that she is old, they let her family know.

JMO.