Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Chimera]

Still thinking this is about money, regardless of a ransom note or not ?
Also someone close to the family if not family themselves, aka a disgruntled employee.
Taking Nancy means (imo !) perpetrator meant maximum harm and hurt to the innocent parties.
A lot of built up anger for some time, maybe months or even years ?
Again, jmo.

 

[Poedelini]

Why would they stay inside for such a long time.

 

[clearskies1]

Could they have gotten consent from a relative?

I think you need consent from all people who live in the house. Not 100% sure but that's my understanding. People who live in the house have an expectation of privacy. JMO.

 

[Nikynoo]

They may not know that they are suspected, but it police indicate that there was no forced entry they may assume then that they are top suspect....

but, they know the police know.

 

[turaj]

Also, she may have been coming from somewhere else besides her house. We don't know where the Uber ride originated. Maybe she had been at someone else's house or at a church activity or something. Who knows. It doesn't seem too odd to me. 5:32 pm would still be daylight too.

i thought having her take Uber on her own for this short distance seemed odd but maybe just worked with schedules and they do it often. I am a senior woman much younger than NG and don't want to take one alone. Just not comfortable.

 

[txsleuth70]

Her family would likely have a key and not need to force entry....obviously. JMO.

Unless they didn't want to ask their spouse for the key. (Or they were an Uber driver or someone who lay in wait.) And assuming they watched the garage door go up and down and left when dropping her off and then returned later to enter forcibly. JMO

 

[crhedBngr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019505734820712943

Unbelievable.

 

[clearskies1]

Unless they didn't want to ask their spouse for the key. And assuming they watched the garage door go up and down and left when dropping her off and then returned later to enter forcibly.

Yes, was just talking generally re family.

 

[InkyEvie]

About the cameras.... if the doorbell camera was offline or disabled, it seems impossible for it to later transmit a movement notification unless it was back online temporarily. It's possible the notification was from a different camera, but any camera that was able to send a notification would have to be online and would send video to the cloud. I can't make sense of this discrepancy about the movement notification AFTER the camera was offline/disabled and the lack of any video recovery.

We have multiple cameras at our house from different off-brand companies. All of them use SD cards for recording because I refuse to pay for a subscription. The cameras still record when they are offline (as long as they have power), you just don't get any notifications and can't see the video until it is back online. If someone physically removed (or smashed) a camera, access to any video would be gone permanently (unless the SD card was found/recovered).

At any rate, if the camera was not disabled until 1:47 am, I assume that there would be video from all day Saturday, including any visitors as well as the family drop-off around 9:48 pm (if it was detected). If the drop-off was exclusively at the garage area perhaps it would not have been picked up by the doorbell camera but maybe by another camera (unless they were already disabled).

I feel that all the camera disabling makes it almost certain that the perp was someone close to NG because they knew how the cameras were set up, both the physical locations and the recording settings, etc. It just seems impossible that someone did all that without leaving a single second of video recordings on any camera.

What strikes me about the camera being disabled/disconnected at 1:47a is that from the BE video, it appears to have been a battery operated Nest doorbell (I have one), and there weren't any wires hanging out or around so it didn't appear to be hardwired. In order for it to stop transmitting, it had to be disconnected from the network (or destroyed). Someone could have popped it off the bracket easily enough and then walked or driven it far enough away for it to disconnect from the network.

That leaves the second camera to send an alert to NG's phone some time later identifying movement. I will say, my Nest doesn't differentiate my beast of a Pyrenees doggo from human, and sometimes a package. So I'm constantly getting alerts caused by him when he's on the porch.

I don't pay for the subscription but I get alerts and can catch video clips of movement or watch live feed. I don't know how long it stores (I've never tested it) but I will say there are times I go to check an old notification and the app freezes up, like it can't pull the video, then it's just gone.

Also, I haven't seen this floodlight that was mentioned, but I know there are floodlight cameras. Is it possible this floodlight was another camera?

 

[J. J. in Phila]

What is with the floodlight references?

 

[turaj]

I thought her family spent an hour at Nancy’s home (after hearing from a church member that she hadn’t shown up) before calling the police? Am I reading this wrong, or is it now thought that they didn’t spend an hour there before ringing?

that was never verified and I always questioned it. Now we know.

 

[Trino]

Why? Where? No answers. This is so strange.

 

[captdj]

Agree. The camera detects a person at 2:12 a.m. and NG's pacemaker disconnects from her phone at 2:28 p.m. So in this scenario, the suspect would have been in the house for approximately 16 minutes. That sounds about right.

But at 1:47 a.m. the doorbell camera was disconnected. So it sounds like the suspect was on the grounds of the property for about 15 minutes before making entry. Was the suspect getting some things ready in their vehicle during that time or looking for another point of entry, but disconnected the front door camera as that would be the suspect's planned exit near to where the getaway car was parked?

The Sheriff did say that NG had multiple security cameras on her house/the property. But it sounds like none of the security cameras' videos were saved based on the kind of service she had or didn't have.

Google did own nest cameras but I had to replace nest with Google cameras when they stopped supporting my nest cameras or I could go to ADT for my nest cameras support. Guess she chose not to replace them having no subscription..

 

[Nikynoo]

I don’t know why, but I’m starting to feel he’s involved here more than before. Someone knew where the camera(s) were and disconnected one and a floodlight. It could be a worker or someone else who has been there before I suppose. When the sheriff said we’re reviewing camera videos from other neighborhoods, it made me take note. Obviously they are, but
It just felt weird to me to say that. Also everyone is still a suspect at this time. Seriously, it could be someone else and I might change my mind, but not yet. Street cameras , home security cameras, neighbors cameras, cellphone data, car data I’m sure is being analyzed, proof of where he/they were etc. I don’t know who else could be involved that helped to remove and relocate N outside of A, maybe a friend/business associate/shady business partner who is owed money? I don’t want to see he/they (maybe A) are involved, but something feels off to not consider this.’MOO

great spot. 'Other areas' which means that LE either have suspiscions or will use that info to rule people in or out.

 

[whitelilac]

I think you need consent from all people who live in the house. Not 100% sure but that's my understanding. People who live in the house have an expectation of privacy. JMO.

same would apply for a vehicle I guess?

 

[turaj]

2:12am a person was detected (as described by the camera), but no visual.

Nancy took an UBER to her daughter's to and from dinner?!

no got ride home

 

[academyrd]

i don't see how it's possible that the SIL does this without AG being involved because she'd know if he was gone in the middle of the night and either had to act as his alibi or has already reported that to the police (which i assume she didn't do because this case would look very different if that were the case). and i feel like it wouldn't be hard to nail down spouses lying for each other - i have to imagine it's fairly obvious to LE right away, even if they can't immediately act on it.

so, they could still be investigating this behind the scenes. maybe the circus over the ransom note is just to throw the potential suspects off LE's scent (i really don't think this is the case, what a massive waste of resources) or maybe it goes deeper and there was like, a hit hired or something? i just don't know...

Yeah - I don't think it's overly likely he acted alone. But just knowing statistically this stuff usually is led by men, men are the ones who kill, who scheme up these things, who commit violence most of the time.

 

[sasha17]

LA man arrested for allegedly sending texts messages to Nancy Guthrie daughter and son in law members asking about sending bitcoin. The man, Derrick Callella, says he just wanted to see if family would respond. Criminal complaint says the texts are not linked to Feb 2 ransom demand.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019505734820712943

I Googled his name. He has quite a history.

 

[moonbeams]

What time zone is the ransom letter deadline in?

they said, then repeated 5 o'clock. did NOT specify a time zone

 

[Sadi]

Perhaps NG felt ultra secure in her home - no noted problems - that she, after being awakened, actually opened the door?

Maybe there wasn’t any forced entry, even though it was reported by TMZ?