AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[whitelilac]

If they arrested someone over the fake ransom note and they’re still acting like there’s a ransom note that is legitimate, does that mean that there was more than one note - one of them fake and one that they think is the real deal? It’s so confusing. One would think that the ransom note business was a fraud and that they’ve moved on from it. Doesn’t sound like they have.

Yes, Initial ransom note that was sent to TMZ and two news stations is separate from a more recent ransom note sent by a moron who was promptly arrested today.

 

[slowpoke]

Actually that was corrected at the latest pressor, was only a few min if I recall correctly.View attachment 641998

Maybe the confusion stemmed from the elapsed time from when the family learned NG didn’t attend Sunday service (supposedly from another churchgoer who was concerned of her absence)—which was approximately 11:00 AM—and when “family checks on Nancy” at 11:56 AM. That is around an hour.
Could be? jmo

At link:
“Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.”

Nancy Guthrie abduction: New timeline emerges in mysterious disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mom

Authorities on Thursday released a more detailed timeline surrounding the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Vegasgrl]

I think they will pay the ransom.

 

[snoopy100]

They caught some clown who copied the ransom note loser, but not the big ransom note loser.

I think that you think that the ransom note is a settled issue, but there are two separate senders.

no, i actually think the ransom note that they're still pursuing is legit and the person that took her did send it. i know i'm kind of an outlier for that lol

but the copied hoax ransom note is a settled issue so i don't think it needs to be posted about here anymore. it's just clogging up the thread, especially when policy is not to start another one (which i actually don't mind).

 

[distracted]

Fox News at Night spent the entire hour on this case.

Two things stood out to me. One, because this crime occurred during the late evening, early morning hours there will be devices, such as cell phones, going to and leaving the area of her home. This is how they found Kohberger. The number of vehicles would likely be a few because of the time of day and the remoteness of the area. There is a 45-47 minute window when it would have occurred.

The other is that after the first deadline of 5pm on Thursday, the person/s making the ransom demand would have likely checked their Bitcoin wallet. That is traceable, too.

I think they are going to have this figured out pretty quickly.

 

[CaliforniaBurrito]

I admit it. I'm old and clueless about cryptocurrency. Are you saying that if the ransom were to be paid, the kidnapper wouldn't be able to use the money without being caught? If so, I'm of the mind that the ransom letters aren't real.

If the kidnapper spent a ransom paid with bitcoin I believe they would likely be caught. Re-sharing this link that I shared earlier:
NBC: Cryptocurrency is not actually perfectly designed for crime. Just ask the crypto cops. Think transactions in cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin are anonymous? Think again.

 

[tbgo]

I just noticed that Nancy celebrated her birthday on January 27th and this happened February 1st. She probably had some sort of party. I wonder if anything happened. Tensions rise? All speculative but it’s so sad that she celebrates her 84th birthday and 5 days later she’s kidnapped. There may be a load of family dynamics we’re not aware of.

 

[MyJoey]

i watched Harvey Levin and he understands the stakes here and thankfully is not releasing that info on location of Apple watch. Based on his experience with lots of crazy things he seems to think this is credible.

My guess would be that Apple Watch was on her night stand next to the bed. Crazy question but where does every one keep their watch?

 

[tbgo]

Was the Harvey Levin CNN interview posted already? He actually seemed spooked. For whatever reason he thinks the person who sent it lives in the Tuscan area. Something in the letter made him think that but he couldn’t go into what the letter actually said.

 

[sasha17]

Yes, Initial ransom note that was sent to TMZ and two news stations is separate from a more recent ransom note sent by a moron who was promptly arrested today.

To be clear, the moron who was arrested today didn't send a ransom note. He sent a text message asking if they were going to be sending the bitcoin.

"The complaint stated that Callella sent text messages to Nancy's daughter Annie and Annie's husband. The text allegedly said: "Did you get the bitcoin were [sic] waiting on our end for the transaction.""

https://people.com/individual-arrested-imposter-ransom-demand-savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-11899709

 

[whitelilac]

To be clear, the moron who was arrested today didn't send a ransom note. He sent a text message asking if they were going to be sending the bitcoin.

"The complaint stated that Callella sent text messages to Nancy's daughter Annie and Annie's husband. The text allegedly said: "Did you get the bitcoin were [sic] waiting on our end for the transaction.""

https://people.com/individual-arrested-imposter-ransom-demand-savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-11899709

Yes, you're right
sorry
Didn't he also stupidly use his own name iirc?

 

[sasha17]

Yes, you're right
sorry
Didn't he also stupidly use his own name iirc?

Yes, he used his full name to register for the VOIP account. The FBI criminal complaint with this information was posted earlier in the thread today.

Editing my post here to add: The guy has been arrested. He's not involved in NG's disappearance. He's a deranged man poking at the family. Moving on now.

 

[jeff2034]

Fox News at Night spent the entire hour on this case.

Two things stood out to me. One, because this crime occurred during the late evening, early morning hours there will be devices, such as cell phones, going to and leaving the area of her home. This is how they found Kohberger. The number of vehicles would likely be a few because of the time of day and the remoteness of the area. There is a 45-47 minute window when it would have occurred.

The other is that after the first deadline of 5pm on Thursday, the person/s making the ransom demand would have likely checked their Bitcoin wallet. That is traceable, too.

I think they are going to have this figured out pretty quickly.

You would think though that if this were a kidnapping for ransom plot, that the perps would be knowledgeable and sophisticated enough to not carry their cell phones with them while the crime was being committed. Kohberger was neither knowledgeable or sophisticated, just sick and twisted. Your point about the vehicles is a good one. At that time of day, one would think there would be few vehicles on the road, so any seen at that time would be suspect. Unfortunately, where she lived did not look like a typical neighborhood where a doorbell camera or some other security camera might show a car passing by. It looked to me, at least in the immediate vicinity, that most houses stood far back from the road with lots of vegetation around them. Hopefully LE has access to cameras on roads leading into and out of the area that may provide a clearer view of cars driving by at that time of night.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

Post-
Savannah Guthrie’s brother-in-law, Tommaso Cioni, was the last person who saw Nancy Guthrie before she vanished, authorities have said.'
___
Tommaso Cioni. Plays in a band called Early Black.

Bandmate Dominic Evans, who is also apparently a friend of Cioni, drew attention. “I think everyone in that inner circle should be looked at and fully vetted. Including this guy, Dominic Evans. He's Tommaso Cioni's friend & bandmate."
____
Arizona judicial records (specifically Pima County and Tucson Municipal Court) show cases involving
Dominic Aaron Lee Evans.
Reported charges include burglary, robbery, embezzlement, and DUI
One specific mention references a charge for burglary in Pima County, Arizona.

Where did this come from?

 

[IQuestion]

The kidnappings for ransom that people are mentioning are from 40 or more years ago. Nothing recent in the US. With modern technology much easier to track people. But now we have this (if it is a kidnapping).

clearskies1, Oh definitely true....IF the parent/spouse or in this case children contact police. How many would not contact LE if told not to, by the kidnappers? I can only go with "my personal choice".... I would pay the ransom in a heartbeat and I wouldn't even try to negotiate one dime less than they requested, stall or ask for proof. (That alone makes me shudder.) And if my loved one wasn't returned, at least I tried. I can always make more money...I would rather live in a tent with my loved ones, instead of a mansion filled with regret.
I can discern the "prank callers" from a real life event....especially if Mama is missing and a ransom note was left on the dining room table.
Might be a good topic to discuss.....at another time.

 

[tbgo]

The ransom note that Ashleigh Banfield held up a few nights ago with a QR code on it, was that the fake ransom note? I would think that it was since they’re now talking about another note that had specifics that they won’t let the public in on.

 

[emigrate]

To be clear, the moron who was arrested today didn't send a ransom note. He sent a text message asking if they were going to be sending the bitcoin.

"The complaint stated that Callella sent text messages to Nancy's daughter Annie and Annie's husband. The text allegedly said: "Did you get the bitcoin were [sic] waiting on our end for the transaction.""

https://people.com/individual-arrested-imposter-ransom-demand-savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-11899709

How the heck did he get her number? Everyone has cell phones it isn't like the old days when you could get peoples home phone numbers, man I am old.

 

[whitelilac]

Where did this come from?

I googled his full name. There are two articles about this but I don't think they'd be considered MSM

 

[Interested Torontonian]

Is there any evidence that she is still alive - and is there any evidence she was alive when she left/was removed from her house (except potentially blood spots that have been tied to her).

Has LE said anything about the general condition of her house that explains why they think she was removed alive as a hostage? I know her phone/ID, etc was there - so it points to her not leaving voluntarily.

But the thing to me that is strange is that LE isn't saying that the internal condition of her home reflects a home invasion or there is physical/bio evidence of her being violently attacked within her house.

 

[investikater]

This is bizarre