AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[nhmemorymaker]

LOL. I'm not shocked, but it's not very perceptive........I guess people don't think or care about aging until they get there. For now they have it all wrong.....

PERFECT one-liner to paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs of mis-information and aegist opinion.

Gee Whiz (yes, I know that dates me) but GEE WHIZ, WE started the sex and protest revolutions, and independent living.
Ask your elders about this someday!!!
Says me.

 

[Skagirl]

This has probably already been asked, but do we know that none of her daily medications are missing? Edit to add: I'm thinking like pills taken from a bottle and the bottle being left there or possibly extra bottles being taken? I know one of my medications is dispensed for 3 months at a time so I have multiple bottles of it at any given time.

 

[SRWCF]

Yes but someone getting a POA right before an abduction, would be someone to take a look at. Yes POA might already be in place. I mean someone else getting a POA recently for NG.

You can't just go out and get POA on someone. It's not like taking out a life insurance policy and faking a signature. NG would need to have requested the POA and consulted a lawyer, then sign the document in front of the drafting attorney and a notary (sometimes the same person). I have guardianship, conservatorship, and durable POA over my mom who is now in memory care. Believe me when I say that there is a lot that goes into having a POA drafted for oneself, and also being assigned POA.

 

[tricia]

Let @tricia know....
she was asking for people to express their thoughts regarding longer threads.

I'm asking people to let me know on our Daily Thread. Please don't post on this thread. This is about Nancy. I appreciate your opinions, though. CLICK HERE to discuss new thread or no new thread

 

[acutename]

Like most people, I keep mine on the bedstand, but I can envision keeping it charged on a master bathroom counter, perhaps with medication. If charging in a place other than a nightstand and the ransom-note writer knew, that would be significant.

jmopinion

so this person knew they needed an observation to prove they were at the scene? That would be pre-planning not a scattered mind flailing about IMO

 

[stormymama]

How so?

It sort of looks like my Mom would do “working around the yard” doing what she can reach and since she uses a cane she can’t really use broom and dust pan too well, drops some if she collected it at all but doesn’t worry about it the lawn guys will blow anyway. Maybe NG’s housekeeper sweeps the porch and walk so leave it for her it’s just a bit.

As a WSer I suppose I should be examining the front landscape for that greenery it should stand out in the landscape...

Maybe its from a seasonal decoration from a nursery or florist in that pot that NG tidied up and some dropped.

all imo

Can't quite put my finger on it, besides it being out of place and right there by the front door and by the spatter. It's just been in the back of my mind, bothering me.

 

[wyome]

From the way AB spoke about her source, I definitely think it is FBI and not sheriff department. I also think I agree with you that part of the reason the source might want to leak it is to observe the reactions and prompt conversations.

Has there been confirmation that the car was seized other than AB’s report or those referring to her report? If so I missed it and would appreciate a link if anyone has one.

Yes, Sheriff confirmed the car was being processed it during the Thursday presser. He addressed a direct question from the press. He brushed off its significance, though, indicating it was routine for any investigation.

 

[SRWCF]

PERFECT one-liner to paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs of mis-information and aegist opinion.

Gee Whiz (yes, I know that dates me) but GEE WHIZ, WE started the sex and protest revolutions, and independent living.
Ask your elders about this someday!!!
Says me.

Let's just say that there is A LOT a person can do to help their older loved ones remain independent. Most don't even give this consideration.

 

[tlcya]

Honestly, the investigation behind the scenes are being held from the public. I'm sure they have much more evidence gathered and probably have a suspect they are investigating,

This crime smells of family tragedy. Someone in the family knows who has kidnapped/hurt/murdered Nancy. It's so suspicious that it cannot be an random person. We've seen too many times in these cases it's usually the last person(s) who was with Nancy.

Most suspicious to me, why did Nancy take an Uber to Annie's house unless Annie couldn't pick her up. Was Annie and her husband having an argument that Nancy tried to help with so she called an Uber to get her to their house just 10 minutes away? Why couldn't Annie pick Nancy up? This is really bothering me. Whoever dropped her off at her house, Thomaso, had to have something to do with Nancy's disappearance. Maybe it was an accident and the family is trying to cover it up.

BBM perfectly plausible possible reasons:

a) Annie was tied up with her own children and their activities/needs and unable to go pick her up
b) NG doesn't drive at night and knew it would be after dark by the time dinner was over and she has an independent personality
c) Annie was in the middle of dinner prep
d) it may have been NG regular practice to use Uber or Annie's regular practice to have an Uber pick up mom for evening plans at her home.

as to the UBM
a) nothing indicates any sort of fight was happening at daughter Annie's house
b) we haven't been told by LE who specifically dropped NG off and
c) Annie's husband HAS TO HAVE something to do with it? So far I don't see it. JMO

 

[Friday Fan]

I used to get nose bleeds as a child. Looked EXACTLY like nose bleed droplets. One big drop would hit the ground and splatter to make a bunch of tiny little pinhead sized droplets. I remember the tiny spray ones because they would sometimes splattering on my folded white socks.

Without gettting into too much detail, I had a freak fall into one of those rectangle step-stools face first. The point of of impact was my upper lip and nostrils and the edge of the step-stool. It pushed my nose up. The amount of blood was incredible. I couldn't believe it and was freaking out. It looked like a mini-crime scene.

I went through numerous towels.

I dont take anti-coagulants.


I never thought a nose bleed could be like this......

So, there is obviously numerous types of nose bleeds. We also can't discount anti-coagulants in this case.

 

[UsernameRequired]

If they have the doorbell camera that changes everything for me. But I do not believe he said that. He’s talking about other cameras is how I interpreted it.

Starting at 2:00 minute mark: Host was specifically asking about the doorbell cam and Sheriff Nanos talks about how they "sent in that device to do analysis" of it to the company.

 

[Donswife48]

I also think it could be a belief that she lived in a safe area where a serious crime was believed to be low risk. Therefore there may have been the belief that there was no need to pay for a subscription that would likely only record mundane daily things.

I pay for a Ring camera subscription for my mom’s house but I didn’t do it in the beginning for the same reason I stated above. I originally thought just having the alerts sent to my phone would be good enough but I changed my mind after I woke up one morning and saw that I had missed an alert for activity at her door during the night. It is likely that it was an animal on her front porch, but I’ll never know and that’s why I decided it was worth paying for the subscription just in case I missed an alert or in case something happened and I would need to go back and review the video.

I was just joking the other day with my daughter that when my mom eventually dies and we have her funeral I am going to include multiple short clips of her arm/hand reaching out the door into the mailbox. She does it every day like clock-work and it makes me think of “The Thing” from the Adams’ Family. Some people do lovely poster boards and photo/video displays of loved ones but I guess we’re just a little bit twisted and would laugh at this.

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I have a Ring doorbell/security system. I pay for a subscription only because it backs up my alarms when my WiFi goes out - which is frequent for me. Mine did go up this year to $210, so not expensive but sometimes people decide they don't need to pay for it if they don't have anything to worry about. I don't have it registered to the nearest police dept though. JMO

 

[UsernameRequired]

I Watched the video excitedly hoping for that but alas I don’t think that is what he said. He seems to be talking about other cameras. At one point I thought he might slip up or was hesitant but I listened twice. It would have been nice though because what he said at the presser was ‘we do not have it’ so that would be pedantic (but that is how they do these things!)

No, listen again at 2:00 min mark. Host was specifically asking about the doorbell cam and Sheriff Nanos talks about how they "sent in that device to do analysis" of it to the company.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Honestly, the investigation behind the scenes are being held from the public. I'm sure they have much more evidence gathered and probably have a suspect they are investigating,

This crime smells of family tragedy. Someone in the family knows who has kidnapped/hurt/murdered Nancy. It's so suspicious that it cannot be an random person. We've seen too many times in these cases it's usually the last person(s) who was with Nancy.

Most suspicious to me, why did Nancy take an Uber to Annie's house unless Annie couldn't pick her up. Was Annie and her husband having an argument that Nancy tried to help with so she called an Uber to get her to their house just 10 minutes away? Why couldn't Annie pick Nancy up? This is really bothering me. Whoever dropped her off at her house, Thomaso, had to have something to do with Nancy's disappearance. Maybe it was an accident and the family is trying to cover it up.

There have been so very many reasonable reasons for the Uber in previous threads.
It might be more helpful to not stir up this hornet nest again...
This is not really a criticism... just a suggestion to go back to see all the answers to your questions.
Like HA that's an easy thing to do on this thread!!!

 

[K9Enzo]

There is a documented history of burglaries turning into sexual homicides. It’s rare, but it happens.

And that might explain why her body was removed, if she was not taken from the house alive (forensic evidence).

I heard an investigator say that sometimes the older (in this case elderly) the victim of SA, the younger the offender. IMO

 

[SouthernSummer]

thanks for posting this!

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I just randomly saw this and sent her a message! it has made Websleuths so much easier to navigate and will result in me coming more often

i certainly agree completely.
I also think it tends to make posters who are trying to catch up, read more than just the one thread up at the time.

 

[txsleuth70]

You can't just go out and get POA on someone. It's not like taking out a life insurance policy and faking a signature. NG would need to have requested the POA and consulted a lawyer, then sign the document in front of the drafting attorney and a notary (sometimes the same person). I have guardianship, conservatorship, and durable POA over my mom who is now in memory care. Believe me when I say that there is a lot that goes into having a POA drafted for oneself, and also being assigned POA.

This is only true if you hire an attorney first who walks you through it. People CAN just obtain a form and have their loved one sign in front of a witness and then it's filed with the county court.

 

[browneyes]

No, listen again at 2:00 min mark. Host was specifically asking about the doorbell cam and Sheriff Nanos talks about how they "sent in that device to do analysis" of it to the company.

I believe the sheriff said the ring doorbell was taken. He doesn’t have it.

 

[The OG]

Thanks for sharing this. So maybe she wasn't at an in-person church service after all. And we've been told that her regular church, which I'm pretty sure is St. Andrew's Presbyterian, does a livestream in which parishioners can't see who else is on (and maybe the church can't either).

So this definitely raises the question of who or what triggered the initial search. I do wonder -- could the church also have had some sort of online Zoom meeting after the livestream where her absence might've been noted? Something like a Bible study group? But that's just speculation on my part.

JMO

All of that is already known by Pima, for sure. IMO, this casts the light squarely on AG and the SIL.