AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #8,761
same here.... i asked about how long it had been there a few days ago!
Can't find it now, but a poster up thread said they can tell how long it's been there; darker color would indicate longer time.
 
  • #8,762
SO -- I've waited before making any comment because I felt we were all rushing to judgement. It's a human reaction to pin the crime on one of the nearest relatives, but it can also backfire. I know Savannah personally, and the last thing I want to do is bring more pain to the Guthrie family. Imagine if your mom was abducted and the public was pointing the finger at you. The sting would be that much greater. All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...

I would be more interested if you knew the sister and partner!

Welcome to WS. Thank you for joining us. I look forward to your contributions.


Imo
 
  • #8,763
Our ring camera setup is connected to a flood light outside of our garage. If it senses motion it turns on and records. LE may know the time the garage door opened and shut when NG returned home because she had a similar setup. If that flood light was smashed later they would not have info that the door was again opened later that night or early morning. Her car could have left and returned after the flood light was disabled.
That is a good point about the flood lights.

Way back when, and I mean way back when I was a older teen, I had a paper route and delivered papers before dawn. It was long before ring cameras on homes, but some houses had motion detectors and a bright light would turn on when I entered the yard.

It's a good point that a motion detectior might have turned on lights at NG's house and might even have been noticed by others since the area is pitch black at night.

And perhaps even NG's system recorded time of lights turning on. It might place someone in a specific area at a specific time.

Fingers crossed.

jmo
 
  • #8,764
I like AB ok, and she is sticking to her story on Meghan Kelly. So she really thinks it’s either TC or someone close to him.
Also, I thought Trump talking about Circle K, Teslas, checking videos for a car they are looking for, was interesting. Plus Yesterday Trump said the investigators are very close.
Lots of clues!
i imagine that LE was not happy at all with DJT's comments. Really out of line and self serving in my opinion.
 
  • #8,765
Pretty sure Tricia has mentioned Aphrodite Jones books on the Websleuths YouTube channel. She may have been a guest at one time, but I don't remember for sure.
She was, One of her books was chosen and read for the WS Guardians book club.
 
  • #8,766
Please could someone link to or confirm where the white van is mentioned?
I’m sorry, I don’t have the link, but it was the neighbor, with near Nancy’s backyard. She mentioned it on about day 3, just guessing. Maybe someone knows how to find.
 
  • #8,767
Because the family is staying there, the 3 siblings
I don't exactly get this because LE has to know exactly where to find all family members. Mulltiple reports are that they are not at AG's home anymore. So they wanted to go there for some other purpose.
 
  • #8,768
it is very ominous that the second message did not contain any proof of life. If they are going to the trouble and risk of sending a message they might as well have included some proof or evidence that she is alive (this could be something as simple as a fact or statement that only she would know).
The problem with that is, to me anyway. They can hide behine secure servers to send a message, but once you add attachments like a picture, video, audio, is that as secure? Yes info can be removed from them, but can the FBI recover that info? I don't know.

Same reason someone wouldn't leave a paper note at the house. That just leaves evidence behind.

All JMO
 
  • #8,769
No. It’s not pointless. As a verified insider she is providing information to us. I appreciate it!
Providing information with no link or source. Basically threw in a hand grenade and left. At least Ashleigh Banfield explained her source.
 
  • #8,770
Feb 5 2026
''TUSCON, Ariz. — Neighbors of Nancy Guthrie reported spotting a suspicious white van parked on their street in the days before the 84-year-old vanished.

Guthrie’s neighbor Brett McIntire told The Post on Thursday that he reported the unmarked van to the police, who asked him basic questions about what he observed in the days leading up to the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mother.

“It was somewhere on that street. It was a white van, full-sized, with no printing on the sides. It was parked on the street,” said McIntire, who lives across from Nancy.

“Normally people that are coming to work on your home will have a company vehicle or if they’re independent, something written on it,” the 72-year-old added. ''
 
  • #8,771
Good question. My thoughts at this very moment, based only on what we know from the outside, I would pay it.

However, deep down I wouldn’t believe I was getting my mom back alive.

I would also feel like there wasn’t anything substantial for me to confirm they really had her without verified proof of life. But, I could not live with the “what if “ I suppose. I would also have to live with the fact, not having her returned alive, that I made a major donation to a crime network. IMO
I would have paid it days ago personally.
 
  • #8,772
I like AB ok, and she is sticking to her story on Meghan Kelly. So she really thinks it’s either TC or someone close to him.
Also, I thought Trump talking about Circle K, Teslas, checking videos for a car they are looking for, was interesting. Plus Yesterday Trump said the investigators are very close.
Lots of clues!
Lets be fair the president says many things that....show he has no knowledge of what is really going on in a lot of situations. I'll leave it at that. I would not expect him to be a reliable source
 
  • #8,773
  • #8,774
The problem with that is, to me anyway. They can hide behine secure servers to send a message, but once you add attachments like a picture, video, audio, is that as secure? Yes info can be removed from them, but can the FBI recover that info? I don't know.

Same reason someone wouldn't leave a paper note at the house. That just leaves evidence behind.

All JMO
What i meant is there are so many things i could include in a message that only my family would know (not attachments or pictures, just random facts that would prove it is me that only they would know)
 
  • #8,775
Providing information with no link or source. Basically threw in a hand grenade and left. At least Ashleigh Banfield explained her source.
Agreed. Verified or not, that shouldn't be allowable. Not above anyone else here.
 
  • #8,776
The POTUS has shed more info than LE so far. Of course, he has loose lips while LE is tightlipped as they should be if an arrest is imminent. It is interesting he says this is not a Search operation but a Solution.

(Not sure if TMZ can be linked but these are true statements from Trump on Air Force One)
the POTUS is not a reliable source of factual information on many things, IMO
 
  • #8,777
Has Nancy's car been worked on recently? If it has, is there a connection and the car needs to be processed for potential evidence? Remembering the unknown DNA handprint that was connected to a sexual assault in AZ in Suzanne Morphew's SUV. Not that I think it's the same person just wondering about her car being serviced or worked on.
 
  • #8,778
Sadly the sheriff was right, they are Google Nest cameras which are designed to rely on cloud services. They can't be fitted with SD cards.
That information was about the front door and inside camera(s), not about the one they just removed yesterday evening. It is quite possible she had more than one brand of camera.
Because I’m not familiar with the Nest brand I did some research and found their outdoor battery/solar powered models record and save 3 hours of event history WITHOUT a subscription to the cloud service. So even if the one removed yesterday was also a Nest camera, it should have 3 hours of recordings on it. Unfortunately by now those recordings will mostly likely only be police activity. 😩
 
  • #8,779
Please could someone link to or confirm where the white van is mentioned?

Is this the link you were requesting; that the white van has been located? I have highlighted it in red.
If not ‘the first reporting in the thread of a white van’ was from a neighbor who contacted investigators that a white van was observed on NG street or perhaps near her drive way?
<snipped quoted post for emphasis>

All that said, as of this AM, they have collected the elusive white van and as you all know, a second note was sent to KOLD yesterday which has been verified as coming from the same encrypted server. This note apparently made contact with the family, responding to the videos made by Savannah and her siblings. We now have President Trump indicating that officials are close to identifying the abductor or abductors. The horrible thing now, of course, is that we have no proof of life. I PRAY that Nancy is alive after being without her meds for 7 days. It is totally possible. Let's remember that. In fact, billboards are now being put up in AZ and surrounding states asking for the public's help. The hard question now is: WOULD YOU HIT SEND to give millions in crypto to this abductor before the deadline on Monday? If no one is caught this weekend, Savannah will be struggling with the possibility that non-payment could mean death for her mom... MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR HER...
 
Last edited:
  • #8,780
Feb 5 2026
''TUSCON, Ariz. — Neighbors of Nancy Guthrie reported spotting a suspicious white van parked on their street in the days before the 84-year-old vanished.

Guthrie’s neighbor Brett McIntire told The Post on Thursday that he reported the unmarked van to the police, who asked him basic questions about what he observed in the days leading up to the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mother.

“It was somewhere on that street. It was a white van, full-sized, with no printing on the sides. It was parked on the street,” said McIntire, who lives across from Nancy.

“Normally people that are coming to work on your home will have a company vehicle or if they’re independent, something written on it,” the 72-year-old added. ''
So can we stop bashing on Aphrodite Jones now? Good lord.
 

Guardians Monthly Goal

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
349
Guests online
3,397
Total visitors
3,746

Forum statistics

Threads
640,198
Messages
18,755,480
Members
244,617
Latest member
Cipher Vale
Back
Top