AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Megnut]

Odd how they just seem to appear in the front, just to the right of the stairs. They also seem to go out to the street. Also, noted that they are more visible from drone cam than eye level. Makes me wonder if they were even documented.View attachment 644566

Image is pretty supportive of these tracks having been made by trash bins, likely in the normal course of use. Garage to curb. Mystery solved.

JMO

 

[Strangeworld]

He may have some cognitive limitations or some sort of psychological disorder and this has put him in a tailspin. He may have the belief he is being "told" (by some unseen force) to deliver a message. In other words, he may be triggered.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Interesting, he did say he had a 'premonition'

 

[Betty P]

Do you have the link to his first interview? I got hinky vibes watching it a few days ago and then when the porch video was released the first person I thought of was him!
ETA found it. He is spending way too much time hanging around.

Are these “influencers” from social media? I usually ignore them in these heavily covered cases. Do some of them look fishy in this case? They’re usually not suspicious, just pesky, occasionally informative.

Aren’t most of these people from out of town, so less likely POIs?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022354694698582476

Possible regularly scheduled pool maintenance? Monthly, bi-monthly, quarterly?

 

[korncrasy]

the camera would not record if turned over. I found that out this week. Charging mine it was recording so I turned it over on the couch and it stopped recording and giving out notifications. mine is Ring though

Mine does record.I place it on the floor to charge.it records my baseboard heater.No notifications.

 

[Cristofori406]

This is what has been on my mind when seeing the video. It was odd, to me, the way he covered the camera lens. You would think you would just use your palm or fingers. However, if he was in mid knock then the strange way he blocked does make sense. If you watch the video it really does seem he was going for the door, looking to the left of it first (looking through the sidelight?). He then raises his hand as if to knock (actually pound) on the door then seems to notice the camera. He actually steps to his right. After covering the camera you can see his left hand do something. At first his left hand is wide as if to grab the doorbell then changes his mind and it really looks like he presses the doorbell. That doesn't make sense. Its between eight and ten seconds of the video released. His left hand presses on something below the lens. The doorknob is clearly seen and not what he is touching.

For some reason after manipulating the doorbell he decides to turn around and find the plant etc.. Unfortunately we don't have video if the camera comes off while the he is holding the plant over it or something else happens. Not having sound also leaves a gap in possibly knowing what is going on. Of course the intention of the released portion of the video was possible recognition of the person and not what he is doing.

I missed that. You're right: he absolutely went to knock on the door.

I've commented before that he didn't reach for the doorknob at any point. That's weird, because she never locked the doors, we've been told. People familiar with the house would have known that and, in this scenario, would have walked right in. But a helper to the main bad guy may not have known that.

Does it look like he went to ring the doorbell with his left hand while he covered the camera with his right fist? ("Oh, there's a doorbell; I don't have to knock.") Was he letting accomplices inside know he was there...that he'd arrived with the getaway vehicle, or something? In that mask, he couldn't have believed NG (or anyone else, if this had been a random crime) was going to open the door to him at that hour. It had to be to let his buddy/buddies know he'd arrived at the front door.

I'm prone to think this guy really knew what he was doing, which I know is contrary to what experts are saying. The position of his holster is common in several cultural situations. Using Walmart stuff makes it less traceable. It does look arguable that the camera surprised him. (on the other hand, he'd kept his face down and turned to the left until the last second.) Was he just a helper who didn't know all the details of the plan but was a "reliable" bad guy to help with the crime and someone that knew how to think on his feet? Covering the lens with greenery could have been quick thinking, to make anyone watching a camera alert think that something natural had blown in front of the camera.

Did he think the power had been cut and was surprised the camera was still active?

Were caregivers tired of her? Did someone need an inheritance for money problems? Was a sibling resentful of caregiving responsibility? Any of those could be reasons for disposing the body and that being the end of the story. The ransom thing is just not fitting for too many reasons. It's seeming now that getting rid of NG was the only goal. Nothing apparently stolen from the house. None of these ransom scenarios is carrying weight with me.

 

[gin2]

Possible regularly scheduled pool maintenance?

I agree, I think it's likely the regularly scheduled service.

 

[Skigh]

I had not seen the narrow tracks in front of the house before. My first thought -- sorry for the graphic visualization -- is that it's about the width of a person, making me wonder if the marks could have been made by the dragging feet of a person?

At the same time, it's hard to imagine that LE wouldn't have seen the tracks immediately and been all over them looking for dropped items or DNA evidence. So maybe the tracks were not there immediately after the crime and instead were made by some LE equipment or the legs of a media tripod?

MOO

I wondered the same. Forensic experts often have equipment in wheeled cases.
Though I would have thought the drive would have been searched with a fine toothcomb and pictures taken of any tracks before they wheeled anything over it.

 

[Megnut]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022354694698582476

Sigh. IMO the sad passage of time. Pool company is probably contracted on a service schedule. Every two weeks, for instance. Bet pool guy is just reporting for maintenance.

Really sad to think of NG's house, just standing there as a quiet sentinel...

JMO

 

[Ur728]

Mine does record.I place it on the floor to charge.it records my baseboard heater.No notifications.

It depends how you set it up I think. There's two modes on Ring cameras. 24/7 mode which record continuously and Motion-based recording that only captures video when motion is detected.

This is what it says about Nest cameras: Learn about event and 24/7 video history - Google Nest Help

 

[Lebowski]

If so, a trip to the interrogation room might cure him of his impulse to insert himself in to a serious crime investigation.

Amateur opinion and speculation

i wish i remembered the names, but there was a case where a woman confessed to murder, who turned out not to have been the murderer, not to have been protecting anyone, and indeed had no connection whatsoever to the crime, victim, or actual perp. when the police first came around asking questions, she acted like she had witnessed some stuff. when that intrigued the police, she added more and more, putting herself more into the center of the story over time. eventually, she straight up confessed to the murder. forensics etc. proved it all wrong though.

the impression i came away with was the lady was just that lonely. the attention the officers were giving her was like crack, so she kept making up more stuff to keep them there. she was so needy, it outweighed the obvious problem of sending herself to prison for a crime she didn't commit.

people are weird.

 

[slueth1111]

Same here- what an odd way to block the camera. I think 9/10 someone would put their whole hand over it, and the tenth time put their finger over it.

What is he doing with his other hand? Does the nest have a light that shines and that's what he is blocking?

 

[shonyakay]

Please can someone verify if Megyn Kelly was talking about Nancy's neighbors or Annie's neighbors being questioned and asking them about a phone because that makes a huge difference!!!!!!

 

[Lovecats]

We need to get this corrected. Is she talking about Nancy's neighbors or Annie's because that makes a HUGE difference?

She said Annie’s

 

[penguinface]

Are these “influencers” from social media? I usually ignore them in these heavily covered cases. Do some of them look fishy in this case? They’re usually not suspicious, just pesky, occasionally informative.

Aren’t most of these people from out of town, so less likely POIs?

He’s (allegedly,) a “neighbour” being interviewed by one of the social media people.

 

[acutename]

If LE is checking Walmarts now, this might be over soon!

FBI describes Nancy Guthrie case suspect, backpack as sheriff asks locals for video

The suspect in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie is described as male, approximately 5’9” - 5’10” tall, with an average build, according to the FBI, which increased its reward to $100,000 from $50,000.

www.foxnews.com

“A law enforcement expert speculated Friday that investigators working the Nancy Guthrie case are likely reviewing sales of Ozark Trail backpacks at Walmart stores in the Tucson area.

“If it was purchased new, you can go to Walmart with a subpoena, they will do this, they probably have already done it, and say who has bought that specific backpack in the greater Tucson area over the last couple of months, last six months, year, whatever it is, so now you get a list of names,” NBC law enforcement and national intelligence reporter Tom Winter said on the “Today" on Friday. “Even if they bought by cash, you would still have a record of that person buying, perhaps surveillance video of that person buying.”

The FBI’s Phoenix Office said Thursday that the masked suspect seen in a surveillance video released earlier this week is “wearing a black, 25-liter ‘Ozark Trail Hiker Pack’ backpack.” The Ozark Trail brand is owned by Walmart.”

It looked somewhat new in the video- but if it was not a recent purchase or outside the time they keep video, or purchased by a friend, could be tedious- guess AI can run through a lot of that.

 

[shonyakay]

Maybe LE has been searching for a phone this whole time i.e. their searches in Nancy's neighborhood.

 

[acutename]

I do like the contractor angle, thank you! As a reference, here is a closeup of the damaged floodlights (one of the two) from the video you posted:

View attachment 644553

Cheers,
Nin

the brick is broken- sledge hammer?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

We need to get this corrected. Is she talking about Nancy's neighbors or Annie's because that makes a HUGE difference?

Corrected? I believe she says AG’s. I listened to that yesterday.

 

[SaraSmile]

I don’t know the exact ins and outs of the process used in the Idaho case but from what I gather the knife sheath DNA matched to a cousin in a genealogy database and then investigators used a family tree with that cousin to get to BK’s parents. They then obtained DNA from BK’s dad and found it was a parent-offspring match.

I understand that family tree records definitely can have problems/errors and there’s even issues with official historical records (such as how at a certain point in time if a Native American woman was married to a white man and living in “white society”, Census workers would mark her race as white. Even if she was actually half or full NA.)

If while referencing the tree the investigators had found say, Dick and Jane Doe in Florida instead of BK’s parents in Pennsylvania, as long as they legally obtained a sample of Dick’s DNA to test against the knife sheath DNA (and obviously found it wasn’t a close parent-offspring match so didn’t proceed further) I guess I’m not seeing an issue with it?

Moo

Re BK. It was pretty fast, re genetic geneology party of case. They had the clues to search Dad’s trash.

LE got Dad’s DNA from PA trash can, to confirm they had it right. BK lived there, too. BK was fastidious about separating his own trash, putting in neighbors can, etc. they did not find BKs DNA in trashcan.
BKs DNA on knife sheath, matched “son” of Dads DNA, Bingo! They later confirmed, “ directly” with a swab of BK’s own mouth, matched sheath!

JMO