• #26,921
does anyone think this is an Israel Keyes type dude with his little flash light? I don't know..he's just so weird. mOO
No. IMO.
 
  • #26,922
This is an interesting article on ABC news with an update from an hour and a half ago saying that they have DNA results back and now they are just eliminating people, including people who had access to the house like staff. So it seems they found foreign DNA in the house, possibly even someone's DNA who they believe to be the perpetrator.

ABC News article
 
  • #26,923
Just because they keep tips anonymous I think you'd still need to give your personal info to the FBI in order to receive a payout. And if you have a criminal history this is a NO GO. Also the FBI doesn't usually pay rewards until the case is settled I believe which can take years.

JMO
I don’t think so. Usually it’s a secure code-based method to protect identities. The person giving the tip receives a number, unique to him/her. This allows complete anonymity if reward is given. JMO
 
  • #26,924
JMO i think the walmart cheepo versions I posted more closely resemble the wrist area of the jacket. do not see that scrunch area in the video
I agree. Also, I think your price point is more on target, in all likelihood, for this perp.

I have noticed several other WebSleuths have quoted similar opinions referencing your version of the jacket as being a closer match. Nice job. :-) MOO.
 
  • #26,925
If there was a significant amount of blood, would they have called the police sooner? Maybe you call SG first to get permission bc you know it will be a big story? But still, if there's something so obvious that you think of it as the scene of a crime beyond a kidnapping and call of the search early, it seems it would have to have been something pretty obvious.

Family called the police within minutes. I imagine if they saw blood that they initially thought something happened to her of her own volition (accident) since she is an 84 year old lady with mobility issues, so they looked around to see if they could locate her. LE hasn't released the actual 911 call to them (only the dispatch) so we don't know for sure what the family members saw and what they described. They could've even found and reported a ransom note was at the home for all we know.

JMO.
 
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There are countless reasons why they shouldn't pay for the so-called information this man claims to have. That said, I pray they take the chance — even the slightest possibility that his tip could lead to finding NG makes it worth considering. What he's asking now is actually a fraction of his original demand of one bitcoin ($68,878). He's willing to accept $50,000 in bitcoin upfront, with the remaining $50,000 due only after she is found. If it were my mother, I'd make that gamble without hesitation.
 
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Just because they keep tips anonymous I think you'd still need to give your personal info to the FBI in order to receive a payout. And if you have a criminal history this is a NO GO. Also the FBI doesn't usually pay rewards until the case is settled I believe which can take years.

JMO
And I am sure he or she would claim it on their taxes! What a world we live in
 
  • #26,931
Does anyone buy into a theory that distraction from some world events/events could have motivated the commission of this crime? Or does anyone completely rule that out as a motive? Can anyone cite a crime having been committed in order to distract attention?

I find this theory interesting but it seems far-fetched. Others?
I buy it. I wouldn't say it's likely or feasible. Yet at the same time, no other theories really make sense either, and the way this case has been dripping out information, ransom notes, involving TMZ, the head of the FBI in town (yes I know, they said his trip was pre-planned), and the timing of the E file drop, congressional hearings.... I am no conspiracy theorist. But the way this case has taken over the media at the expense of all the insane everything else right now, is hard to ignore. I don't think it's some big coordinated plan. I do think there are crazy nuts out there who act for reasons we don't know or understand. That said, if you told me it was some random person who once did work on the house, I could just as easily believe that too.

Brian Entin has a post on his twitter (X) today, asking what questions people have about the case. Someone posted the blue shirt shown near the front door (the same one posted in some media videos in this thread) and in a photo of Nancy that has been widely distributed. (It's literally the wikipedia photo.) Interested to see if that has an answer and if that was Nancy's shirt.
 

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I find it even more odd that they chose TMZ to send these emails. That’s who they found to be the most trustworthy news outlet? Yikes.
These scammers should rot in hell. MOO, of course.

If you have information about a person who is abducted it should not be transactional! And for heaven's sake, no one should pay money without determining who is demanding it and if there's any substance behind the so-called information.

jmo
mmo
imho
 
  • #26,933
I find it even more odd that they chose TMZ to send these emails. That’s who they found to be the most trustworthy news outlet? Yikes.
Celebrity gossip etc so figures it would instantly get out there and it has. He is getting the info and out once vetted. I think it was said that Savannah G got it, could be wrong but that will come out.
 
  • #26,934
I get what you’re saying, but at the same time there was a $50k reward and now a $100k reward for information. The feds can and do keep tips anonymous. So why not give them information and get the cash reward? This is just a control trip at the expense of an unsolved, active investigation.

I read that comment as being 'tongue in cheek' dry kinda humour... I didn't read it as them considering starting a 🤬🤬🤬
 
  • #26,935
These scammers should rot in hell. MOO, of course.

If you have information about a person who is abducted it should not be transactional! And for heaven's sake, no one should pay money without determining who is demanding it and if there's any substance behind the so-called information.

jmo
mmo
imho
Proves the person sending the notes is not a good person of course. Desp for the money and rotten soul if they do know at all. IMO
 
  • #26,936
I’m quite surprised TMZ haven’t decided to pay the bitcoin ransom themselves at this point just to try and get a scoop. $50,000 would be small change to them too. MOO.
 
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This may be a stupid question but here it is: Does the FBI have the capability to clone the encrypted Bluetooth specific pacemaker information to other phones? If so, if any phone synced to NG’s pacemaker she would have to be within 50’ alive or otherwise correct? A pacemaker battery has charge for 7-10yrs and continues until removed. 50’ isn’t a very big area but could be helpful. Idk just a thought.
Can I go you one stupider on questions?

The pacemaker is bluetooth, so has an IP address, correct? And it has a battery that lasts for many years. Could Elon Musk utilize StarLink to drill down to the approximate current geolocation of that IP address? (And now you all know how little I know about all that stuff...).

And even if that is not possible, could he do a "fake out" indicating that it is possible? (So LE could observe anyone who might be on their radar?)
 
  • #26,938
There are countless reasons why they shouldn't pay for the so-called information this man claims to have. That said, I pray they take the chance — even the slightest possibility that his tip could lead to finding NG makes it worth considering. What he's asking now is actually a fraction of his original demand of one bitcoin ($68,878). He's willing to accept $50,000 in bitcoin upfront, with the remaining $50,000 due only after she is found. If it were my mother, I'd make that gamble without hesitation.
What's confusing me is the public dissemination of the ransom emails. If Nancy is still alive, the abductor or abductors are still around to be apprehended (i.e., still in the country), and the emailer has legitimate knowledge of their location, wouldn't this just prompt them to, you know, flee?
 
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The last thing we should want is for the ransom to be paid... Unless we are prepared to deal with an epidemic of celebrity kidnappings.
Celebrities being kidnapped for ransom isn’t some new concept. Frank Sinatra Jr., Patty Hearst, J. Paul Getty III, and even the Lindbergh case all involved ransom demands. Criminals don’t need a GoFundMe for inspiration.
 

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