AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Moonchime]

So we have now gone from two nights of FBI raids to maybe we'll find Nancy in a few hours or maybe it will be several years.

“Maybe it’s an hour from now,” Nanos told The New York Times Friday. “Maybe it’s weeks or months or years from now. But we won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

Arizona sheriff makes resounding promise in ‘exhausting’ search for Nancy Guthrie

“We won’t quit. We’re going to find Nancy. We’re going to find this guy.”

nypost.com

It's truly disheartening to think it may be years before Nancy Guthrie is found. Sheriff Nanos shouldn't sound so resigned already. While it's realistic to acknowledge she may not be alive, his public statements should prioritize hope and determination. I wish he'd been more reassuring to the family and the public that every effort will continue until she's brought back home. MOO

 

[VenturaJen]

Would that only work in an open environment or would that work if say she was in a housed/enclosed residence? Forgive my ignorance. TIA. MOO

No worries. There are no insignificant questions at least for me. The “sniffer” (I think) would replicate her own monitoring device. (I.e. IPhone, IWatch). NG’s pacemaker has its own encrypted language to feed info to whatever monitoring device she used, maybe both a watch and phone. If it that encrypted language could be replicated, cloned it could …“sniff”, perhaps with a boosted Bluetooth passed along in LE or FBI phones could find her. Alive or otherwise, because a pacemaker’s battery lasts 7 yrs average and continues until the pacemaker battery dies or is surgically removed. Hope this is helpful to you, others and LE.

 

[shonyakay]

Forgive me if this video was already shared but I highlighted some things that are interesting.

In this interview Sheriff Nanos says they contacted the FBI at 8 or 9 in the morning (I'm assuming Monday morning) when they got done processing the scene.
They asked the FBI for some help with digital evidence.
They gave that evidence to the FBI and sent the rest of the evidence to a lab they have used for 30 to 40 years now.

In regards to the door nest cam footage;
He said, "I think we had them for about two hours and we submitted them to the media."

The gloves found were two miles away from Nancy's home.
The FBI asked him if they should send it to their lab Nanos said No let's send it where all of the other evidence is at so it would all be in one place.

About the claim a glove was found in the house - "Never was found a glove in that house."

About a white "truck" being seen in the area...
"Somebody is working, probably on a lead that came in. Oh, hey, this white truck was sitting in the area."
He said that is not the only vehicle they have been told about in the area that looked suspicious.
Btw, this is the first I have heard about a white truck. We have heard about neighbors seeing a white van.

About CP;
"There's a lot of things there that we looked at
So it's not just, oh, here's a delivery. Here's somebody driving in the area. There's a lot more to that and that, that built up for us, enough probable cause in our eyes and the judge's to say, I think we need a search warrant."
"We believe he was a delivery man he was in the area for a reason. That doesn't mean he is completely eliminated. What if, and the search warrant we're processing comes back and says Nancy's DNA was found in his home?" He reiterates that is not the case he is just explaining why they don't completely eliminate.

The specific date for January 11th footage was requested for a reason. He said he didn't know what the reason was but, "I know that they have a valid reason for that date."
He says they then expanded it when asking people for footage they may have.

He made it sound like LE wasn't really interested in the January 23rd ring cam of the man at the door.

 

[SlimPickens]

I think another reason why the older ones insist that they don't need the medical life alert device is the cost.

There's the cost of purchasing the medical alert device and then there is the monthly monitoring service fee for the device.

And the same thing with a home security system such as ADT. There's the installation cost and the monthly monitoring service fee for the home security system.

Believe me, the older ones are frugal when it comes to money. If they feel they don't need something, they certainty won't spend their money on it.

True, and a part of aging consists of denial as well. Older folks tend to have a difficult time reconciling their related functional limitations. It's a pretty natural phenomenon. Same goes for surrendering driver's license, etc. We all experience denial and limitations gradually as we age, but when we get 'really old' our mind/will and physical body often do not align very well.

JMO.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Logically, does anyone really think that card was there before she disappeared? If so, we need a picture with a timestamp to prove it I believe. My opinion was, not accurate. The picture I have seen does not show it on first day.

She's fiercely independent and when a delivery person threatened her landlady with calling Adult Protective Services (for another unrelated reason), my relative looked into it and said that as long as she's in her right mind, she can live as she likes. In her state, that is apparently true.

I was referring to the card on Nancy Guthrie's door.


(In my state the officers or if she was transported medical staff would be the reporters, since she was a vulnerable elderly living by herself, to check on her.)

All imo

Do we have the initials of the person of interest who owns the RR?

We wouldn’t be allowed to discuss if we did.

 

[LRinCA]

Been there…!

Same here with my mom as well as my mother-in-law. Absolute refusal from both.

I used to walk with a woman at our gym who is now 82 or 83. She insisted she didn't need a Life Alert necklace because her Apple watch would act the same as a Life Alert. I feel like reaching up in a moment of stress and pushing that button would be a lot quicker than relying on an iPhone or an Apple watch. From what I recall, NG's watch was off her arm.

I think this situation with NG has convinced me that when the time is right, I will wear one under my shirt/blouse. No one needs to know it's there.

 

[JDG]

No worries. There are no insignificant questions at least for me. The “sniffer” (I think) would replicate her own monitoring device. (I.e. IPhone, IWatch). NG’s pacemaker has its own encrypted language to feed info to whatever monitoring device she used, maybe both a watch and phone. If it that encrypted language could be replicated or “sniffed”, perhaps with a boosted Bluetooth passed along in LE or FBI phones could find her. Alive or otherwise, because a pacemaker’s battery lasts 7 yrs average and continues until it dies or is surgically removed. Hope this is helpful to you, others and LE.

It has no GPS, of no use in locating a person.

That was stated & explained by LE in the last week.

 

[mikenikes]

Does anyone know how old the Range Rover was? I saw somehow people figured out the vin number etc and that it was sold recently like 2 days ago or something to the guy who was stopped yesterday at colvers. I’m wondering if the fbi are basically only interested in that car because they’re pretty sure it was part of the crime.
I’m wondering how old the Range Rover was because it would be great if it had gps data in it that the fbi can extract and prove that it was involved in the crime… then they just have to trace back to who owned it before.
Can you imagine buying a car that was involved in a high profile crime not knowing and getting raided by a swat team? How terrifying

 

[Arkay]

I’m currently halfway through Brian Entin’s special report on Nancy.

At this moment they are showing the intruder at the door, and they’ve circled the gun and holster in red.

I imagine we’ve all had the same thought….if only that crotch gun had misfired and discharged right then.

Sorry to be so nasty, but I really do wish it had disabled him in that way and Nancy lived to tell the tale.

JMO

 

[mikenikes]

I was more thinking that the dealership may have only sold it in the past few days to the new owner, who then could have ended up being the POI by driving the car that LE were looking for. The dealership has had the car on its books since before NG went missing, from the seems of things, and dropped the price right after her disappearance was discovered, so potentially indicates some desperation in wanting to shift it?

JMO and not 100% what I believe, just sharing thoughts.

Can you tell how old the car is from the dealer website?

 

[Turkeytrot]

It has no GPS, of no use in locating a person.

That was stated & explained by LE in the last week.

I believe they're referring to this, not GPS

Brian Entin on X: "Investigators have used what is called a “signal sniffer.” It is a small device that was sent in and attached to the Sheriff’s helicopter. It can detect Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker signal. The helicopter has to stay low and move slowly for it to work." / X https://share.google/mxW2QD92ltQ5HRdBI

 

[Moonchime]

I

Still say she wasn't there to be abducted in the first place, it was staged after something happened elsewhere.

You might be right. The guy at the door felt straight out of central casting, way too suspicious. Who actually opens up for someone like that? Something’s definitely hinky.

 

[Bluewing3102]

Can you tell how old the car is from the dealer website?

I believe it's a 2017 Land Rover based on images
JMO

 

[VenturaJen]

It has no GPS, of no use in locating a person.

That was stated & explained by LE in the last week.

Yes I agree there is no GPS, but there is a language (specifically encrypted) only her pacemaker responds to. The range is very limited due to the pacemaker battery…but it can BE FOUND. If that encrypted language is duplicated into LE/FBI phones (replicating NG’s own monitoring devices) and the Bluetooth is boosted to say 50-70’…it could be helpful.

 

[maskedwoman]

Not buying that about internal cameras, we would have heard about that before now. If even to confirm Nancy was seen inside the house that night. Nonsense IMO.

Ordinarily. I would agree with you. But this investigation? I'm just not sure. I swear Nanos can't give a simple straightforward answer to anything. I'll bet if someone asked him about inside cameras two days in a row, they would get two different answers.

 

[birdbox]

Forgive me if this video was already shared but I highlighted some things that are interesting.

In this interview Sheriff Nanos says they contacted the FBI at 8 or 9 in the morning (I'm assuming Monday morning) when they got done processing the scene.
They asked the FBI for some help with digital evidence.
They gave that evidence to the FBI and sent the rest of the evidence to a lab they have used for 30 to 40 years now.

In regards to the door nest cam footage;
He said, "I think we had them for about two hours and we submitted them to the media."

The gloves found were two miles away from Nancy's home.
The FBI asked him if they should send it to their lab Nanos said No let's send it where all of the other evidence is at so it would all be in one place.

About the claim a glove was found in the house - "Never was found a glove in that house."

About a white "truck" being seen in the area...
"Somebody is working, probably on a lead that came in. Oh, hey, this white truck was sitting in the area."
He said that is not the only vehicle they have been told about in the area that looked suspicious.
Btw, this is the first I have heard about a white truck. We have heard about neighbors seeing a white van.

About CP;
"There's a lot of things there that we looked at
So it's not just, oh, here's a delivery. Here's somebody driving in the area. There's a lot more to that and that, that built up for us, enough probable cause in our eyes and the judge's to say, I think we need a search warrant."
"We believe he was a delivery man he was in the area for a reason. That doesn't mean he is completely eliminated. What if, and the search warrant we're processing comes back and says Nancy's DNA was found in his home?" He reiterates that is not the case he is just explaining why they don't completely eliminate.

The specific date for January 11th footage was requested for a reason. He said he didn't know what the reason was but, "I know that they have a valid reason for that date."
He says they then expanded it when asking people for footage they may have.

He made it sound like LE wasn't really interested in the January 23rd ring cam of the man at the door.

I mean he sounds really sincere. This really in encouraging.

 

[TIGER0822]

I do have a pool and this is the first place my mind went when I saw them cleaning the pool.

Yes, and like a regular vac. the debris is caught in the pool filter or filter basket.

 

[ItsJax]

I think another reason why the older ones insist that they don't need the medical life alert device is the cost.

There's the cost of purchasing the medical alert device and then there is the monthly monitoring service fee for the device.

And the same thing with a home security system such as ADT. There's the installation cost and the monthly monitoring service fee for the home security system.

Believe me, the older ones are frugal when it comes to money. If they feel they don't need something, they certainty won't spend their money on it.

It’s more of a pride and denial issue than cost. Most 84 year olds I know are very independent and still driving. They see no need for an alert device and it would be insulting to suggest it. However, at some point, medical alerts and security systems do help. The problem with both is denial and dementia. My FIL (93) had ADT with cameras in his large home but never turned it on or forgot. When someone broke into his home by breaking a window, he didn’t hear it (window and alarm siren). But yes, he was frugal even though he could afford the best care available! It’s all so hard.

 

[warp3dwing]

It's truly disheartening to think it may be years before Nancy Guthrie is found. Sheriff Nanos shouldn't sound so resigned already. While it's realistic to acknowledge she may not be alive, his public statements should prioritize hope and determination. I wish he'd been more reassuring to the family and the public that every effort will continue until she's brought back home. MOO

I’m hoping it’s a bluff and that they have solid leads still. Maybe they’re trailing a suspect and trying to make them feel comfortable. We’ve certainly seen that technique before in other cases before an arrest. Perhaps it’s someone they’ve already interviewed but didn’t have the evidence to arrest them.

I just don’t think LE is resigned at this point at all. Not in this case, at least. Fingers crossed.

 

[Sundog]

Why didn’t she have a life alert device?

It is my understanding from reading other comments on this thread that NG had an Apple watch that has an emergency alert option, so she would not have needed a life alert device as well. IIRC, jmo.