AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[jepop]

Well there was this phd criminology student that left a knife sheath that had his dna at a crime scene once…

And it's well known that was the only DNA he left in the house. Moo kohberger deliberately dressed to mitigate shedding DNA and it worked, apart from...the knife sheathe (well there was also his driving his own easily identifiable car but anyways).

In this case, I think it's a possibility, given how layered and covered up perp/suspect is here, he knows about DNA, it's more than just hiding his identity. He may have taken NG away, whatever happened inside, motivated by self protection. That would mean he had contact with her inside. Could he have removed a glove when he was inside and in proximity to NG? If he was wearing multiple gloves, maybe he took a layer off, and stored them on his person, tossing them 2 miles away on his way out. Idk why he would though, possibly glove)s? went out car window accidentally, or glove/s is/are completely unrelated. Speculation. Moo

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Remember the crime happened on a Saturday and as a poster pointed out, there were requests for cctv with emphasis on two preceding Saturdays so I wonder if the perp is otherwise occupied M-F.?

Makes sense to me. There are a lot more people out on Friday and Saturday nights, so a weekday would be safer. JMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Latest on black glove/investigation :

A black glove found near Nancy Guthrie’s home appears to match those worn by the suspect in the surveillance video, according to the FBI (via CBS)

The glove, which has DNA evidence, was one of about 16 gloves collected by investigators near the house. Most belonged to searchers who discarded them while working the areas (via FBI/CBS)

The FBI tells me they are working on a new statement to clarify what has been reported. We are standing by for that

I will have other details from the investigation to report later today

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[imstilla.grandma]

A black glove found near the scene of Nancy Guthrie's abduction appears to match one seen in a video that shows a gloved, masked, armed man outside her front door, CNN reports.

Though the glove appears the same as the one in the doorbell cam, the FBI cautions further testing — which typically takes 24 hours — is ongoing.

In the video, a masked individual was seen wearing black gloves, a backpack, and carrying a gun while tampering with Nancy’s front-door camera.

On Wednesday, the FBI revealed on X that they are “conducting an extensive search along multiple roadways in the Catalina Foothills area related to the Nancy Guthrie investigation.”

Hours later, The New York Post reported that a black glove had been located at a roadside about a mile and a half from Nancy’s residence.

Nancy Guthrie Case: Glove Found Near Crime Scene Matches Glove in Video

A black glove found near the scene of Nancy Guthrie's abduction appears to match one seen in a video that shows a gloved, masked, armed man outside her front door, CNN reports.

extratv.com

An FBI spokesperson tells TMZ ... a glove recovered in the case contains a DNA profile that appears to match the gloves worn by the unidentified subject captured on the security camera footage released from Nancy's front door cameras.

"The one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video," the FBI's statement said. The glove in question was discovered in a field along the side of a road about two miles from Nancy's multimillion-dollar home.

FBI Says DNA on Glove Matches Subject Seen in Nancy Guthrie Security Video

The investigation into Nancy Guthrie's case just took a major forensic turn ... TMZ has confirmed.

www.tmz.com

 

[Kapua]

BE is saying the gloves found 2 miles away from Nancy's home matches the subject's DNA from the door cam.
Huh?
Are they saying they know who lantana man is?
Or are they saying the unknown male DNA from the home matches the DNA in the gloves?

Or maybe they got DNA from the door area recently and that DNA matches that pair of gloves?

I didn't get that from any of the articles I read. What I understood the spokesperson to mean is that they were able to extract a DNA profile from one of the many gloves they recovered. And that particular glove looks like the gloves the subject in the porch video was wearing. MOO

"The one with the DNA profile recovered is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video," the spokesperson said.

Nancy Guthrie latest: Task force awaits forensic results as search enters third week

Nancy Guthrie went missing two weeks ago after being kidnapped from her home in Tucson, Arizona. Authorities have yet to publicly name any suspects or persons of interest.

www.foxnews.com

 

[submarine7]

Thanks for the info re kidnapping.

Also, to add, if the person died during the crime at their home, and the person was then removed, It May not be considered a kidnapping.

In the case that a DB is moved After death, it is murder or manslaughter and tampering with a human body.

This is just my understanding. Thoughts on this?

JMO

I think that's correct.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Depending on the app and system, the timestamp that the event happened may not be in the notification itself. For example, my current garage door is integrated with Apple Homekit. I get notifications from the Home app when the garage opens or closes, but it just says "garage door opened" and the only time I have is the time on the notification. Which, as described above, can sometimes take several minutes to arrive. So it might show a timestamp that's 5 minutes later than the door actually opened.

To better illustrate, here's a screenshot from my actual phone. Those times on there are the time that the phone got the notification, not the time that the door opened or closed. If it took three minutes for the notification to arrive (which is not common, but does sometimes happen), the time on the notification would be inaccurate by 3 minutes compared to when the door actually opened or closed.

 

[Bodhi]

Florida lan is what i read

The pair found in the field - is it one of those that has the DNA on it? Or is it a glove found at her home that has DNA on it?

This is good to hear!!!

The Pima County Sheriff's Office stated no gloves were found inside NG's home or on her property.

Sheriff: DNA found at Guthrie's property doesn't match her or anyone close to her

The Pima County Sheriff's Department said Friday that DNA other than Nancy Guthrie’s and those in close contact to her has been collected from her property.

tucson.com

 

[BellaToothless]

It's interesting how the Sheriff described Nancy's pacemaker app disconnects from her phone at 2:28 a.m. He said "app" disconnects correct?

To disconnect a pacemaker app (such as Medtronic MyCareLink Heart, Abbott, or similar) from your phone, you should follow the specific unpairing procedures within the app to ensure data syncing stops properly. Because these apps are used for monitoring medical data, they often require deliberate steps to disconnect.

If someone deliberately disconnected her pacemaker app from her phone then someone had to have been accessing her phone to do that. No?

Remember the possibility that "disconnect from her phone" could mean she/pacemaker is out of range. In that she is no longer in the house or within 30' or so of her phone. There is a notification from the app when this happens on the phone.

 

[TIGER0822]

Feeling hopeful! The FBI put out a statement about a glove undergoing DNA testing, After preliminary DNA testing came back. This could be a significant break in the case. If I was the culprit and I misplaced / discarded a glove I would be sweating like crazy and assume I am under surveillance.

 

[VegasGirl35]

Remember the crime happened on a Saturday and as a poster pointed out, there were requests for cctv with emphasis on two preceding Saturdays so I wonder if the perp is otherwise occupied M-F.?

Good observation!

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Certainly true, but may not have have been a body at the time.

JMO.

Oh, that's a very good point. If NG were alive, taking her through Border Control to Mexico would likely not be a problem. And, it is possible that she may have been alive at that time. Also, going into Mexico from AZ is fairly easy. It's coming back where the agents are much more careful about people in the car. JMO

 

[fridaybaker]

Isn't it simply this? Among the many gloves that have been picked up near her house, there was one which didn't look like the others, which were all gloves used by searchers/LE. That glove, which looked different from the others, DID have DNA on it. They haven't gotten the results of a DNA profile yet, but that glove, that wasn't a searchers glove and had DNA on it, DID look like the one used by porch guy on the video.

Yes?

 

[RedHaus]

There has been a lot of discussion about how poorly public communication has been handled in this case.

As a police public relations specialist, I’ll say this: In high-profile cases, it’s imperative for law enforcement to get in front of the story. A disciplined, well executed communications strategy is critical.

When agencies don’t communicate clearly and consistently, speculation fills the gap and public confidence is eroded—as we’re seeing here.

A strong PIO/comms team helps:

• Protect investigative integrity
• Control misinformation
• Coordinate media access
• Maintain public trust
• Demonstrate professionalism
• Encourage public cooperation

Vague or inconsistent communication damages credibility.

In this investigation, both the PCSD and the FBI would benefit substantially from a more strategic communications approach.

My suggestion: Put a strong PIO at the mic, do some damage control, and reset the narrative going forward.

— MOO

Well stated @3mber! Perhaps you can offer your PR services to LE for this case!

 

[penguinface]

BE is saying the gloves found 2 miles away from Nancy's home matches the subject's DNA from the door cam.
Huh?
Are they saying they know who lantana man is?
Or are they saying the unknown male DNA from the home matches the DNA in the gloves?

Or maybe they got DNA from the door area recently and that DNA matches that pair in the gloves?

It’s probably already been answered by the time I type this, with how fast the thread moves, but I think they mean the glove that the DNA was found in matches the look of the glove that was worn in the doorcam video.

JMO

 

[Eli9]

To better illustrate, here's a screenshot from my actual phone. Those times on there are the time that the phone got the notification, not the time that the door opened or closed. If it took three minutes for the notification to arrive (which is not common, but does sometimes happen), the time on the notification would be inaccurate by 3 minutes compared to when the door actually opened or closed.

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Very helpful post.

Will your app detect if your garage door is opened manually?? TIA

 

[barth00]

BE is saying the gloves found 2 miles away from Nancy's home matches the subject's DNA from the door cam.
Huh?
Are they saying they know who lantana man is?
Or are they saying the unknown male DNA from the home matches the DNA in the gloves?

Or maybe they got DNA from the door area recently and that DNA matches that pair in the gloves?

It’s very confusing how they worded it. Why didn’t they come out and make this statement a few days ago when they first found the glove if all they had to do was compare it to the camera footage?

I guess they just tested the DNA sure, but wouldn’t any glove have random DNA on it lol

JMO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023120129907675138

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[Cassie P]

Agree , so what was the goal ? That is what needs to be figured out imo

The original questions are about the guy on the video cam on the front porch.
-Why does he look so nonchalant as he is about to commit a very serious crime which could result in the death penalty or life in prison?
-Why does he show his face to the camera?
-Why does he act like he didn't know the camera was operative?
-Why is he ill prepared to disable the camera?

Possibilities:
He could be young, naive, foolish. Using drugs. Impaired judgement
Maybe he isn't the one committing the major crime. He is just at the front door to help get victim to the car.
Maybe someone else came the back door, grabbed the victim, brought her to front door.
Perhaps that person told front door man all cameras had been disabled.
Perhaps they thought if they killed the wifi the cameras would be disabled.
This was just staging, pretending there was a kidnapping to cover up a murder. Play acting.
It was all spur of the moment, no time to plan ahead.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I agree.

Relatedly, weren’t there reports of DNA from IN the house or has that been proven incorrect? Seems like that would’ve been discovered well before this glove and already be back from the lab?

Yes. Reports of DNA taken from the house that were not that of a relative or known person in NG's circle.