AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[wibbleflea]

BE is saying the gloves found 2 miles away from Nancy's home matches the subject's DNA from the door cam.
Huh?
Are they saying they know who lantana man is?
Or are they saying the unknown male DNA from the home matches the DNA in the gloves?

Or maybe they got DNA from the door area recently and that DNA matches that pair in the gloves?

None of those things. He’s saying that the glove visually matches the type in the video, worn by the perp.

 

[SMK777]

Feeling hopeful! The FBI put out a statement about a glove undergoing DNA testing, After preliminary DNA testing came back. This could be a significant break in the case. If I was the culprit and I misplaced / discarded a glove I would be sweating like crazy and assume I am under surveillance.

And maybe fleeing the county.

 

[shonyakay]

Listen to BE.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Very helpful post.

Will your app detect if your garage door is opened manually?? TIA

On my current opener, yes it will detect it, whether by "manually" you mean by pressing the button on the wall, or if you mean pulling the rope release and lifting it. However, in my prior one, it would not detect the door being opened by pulling the rope release and lifting it. I've never had one that wouldn't detect a "manual" open with the wall button.

 

[maskedwoman]

Someone who can "barely walk" isn't using Uber regularly, as NG did.
That requires someone be able to walk to the vehicle, get in and out of vehicles of varying heights and walk to their destination. The destination may be close, but she's still managing with just a cane.

I don't think it much matters whether or not she regularly got her own mail. She had household help during the day. I'm sure they could do that for her if she asked them to.

SG stated that NG is frail, with heart issues, pain and that she could walk no further than 50 yards without assistance. I googled those symptoms and it brought up severe cardiovascular, neurological or musculoskeletal damage with likely heart failure. It also mentioned pain-associated frailty. In other words, the person is in so much pain that they don't move around very much, which makes them increasingly frail. Plus, many seniors went "down" during Covid, from being trapped inside for months on end.

Arthritis has made my ankles very stiff, plus painful knees and hips, so I have a hard time with stairs or long walks. Fortunately, I don't have any heart related issues, but I can certainly see how combinations of these issues could be very confining and seriously limit someone's mobility.

I took it that her friend was explaining that she was a determined lady, who wanted to do for herself as much as she could, and to keep moving, even if it required assistance. I applaud her grit in remaining at home with assistance for so long.

 

[TIGER0822]

Thanks for the info re kidnapping.

Also, to add, if the person died during the crime at their home, and the person was then removed, It May not be considered a kidnapping.

In the case that a DB is moved After death, it is murder or manslaughter and tampering with a human body.

This is just my understanding. Thoughts on this?

JMO

In this case it is likely both a kidnapping and murder. NG was held against her will and may also be deceased.

 

[submarine7]

Yes!!!!

Isn't it simply this? Among the many gloves that have been picked up near her house, there was one which didn't look like the others, which were all gloves used by searchers/LE. That glove, which looked different from the others, DID have DNA on it. They haven't gotten the results of a DNA profile yet, but that glove, that wasn't a searchers glove and had DNA on it, DID look like the one used by porch guy on the video.

Yes?

 

[SMK777]

Isn't it simply this? Among the many gloves that have been picked up near her house, there was one which didn't look like the others, which were all gloves used by searchers/LE. That glove, which looked different from the others, DID have DNA on it. They haven't gotten the results of a DNA profile yet, but that glove, that wasn't a searchers glove and had DNA on it, DID look like the one used by porch guy on the video.

Yes?

Yes.

 

[Nikynoo]

The first note was received by local news station KOLD in Az on Monday, roughly one day after her disappearance. TMZ supposedly received that same note 12 hrs later.

What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

Both TMZ and KOLD representatives said wording in the messages suggests the sender has familiarity with the Tucson area.

www.newsnationnow.com

KOLD received the first ransom note around 5pm Monday so that’s approx 38 hours after NG was abducted. This is way too long imo.

 

[TIGER0822]

And maybe fleeing the county.

Yes! If it was me I would Irish passport in hand be on the first avaiable flight.

 

[barth00]

Is there any reason why they’d make this statement while still waiting for the DNA results? If it doesn’t match the DNA in the house and happens to be unrelated, isn’t that just another defeating nothing burger? JMO

They must be pretty confident it’s the same glove to say this before results even come back

 

[SlimPickens]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023120129907675138

Means one of two things if this is confirmed to be the glove, IMO:

- Perp is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
- Perp is confident that the glove, even if discarded haphazardly, would not incriminate him.

Could be a combination of both, but if the perp had any hints of #1 he would almost certainly be in custody by now.

JMO.

 

[shonyakay]

None of those things. He’s saying that the glove visually matches the type in the video, worn by the perp.

Thanks. It would have been helpful if they said the word "visually" matches.

 

[justwannahelp]

The same guy who comes to the front door to kidnap you maybe? None of it makes any sense to me. It is an unusual case.

I still think front door lantana guy was part of a team and maybe simply supposed to dismantle the camera and be on the lookout at the front of the house and maybe he was the getaway driver too. I think another or other perpetrators were inside while he remained outside on watch.

 

[penguinface]

Listen to BE.

“The one with the DNA profile is different and appears to match the gloves of the subject in the surveillance video”

I think it “appearing to match” is referring to the look/style/physical appearance of the glove.

JMO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Absolutely! This is why you always check.

It's possible that the suspect may have thrown the gloves out of the car within 2 miles of NG's house had no idea that his DNA may have been on them. Maybe he thought there wasn't anything traceable on them and for some reason he wanted to get rid of them ASAP.

Interestingly enough, if he was in such a hurry to get rid of the gloves, perhaps he lived in the area and didn't want them in the car when he got home. And was holding NG in his home or NG had died and he got rid of NG around the same time. Makes no sense to me to be in such a hurry to get rid of his gloves if he has a body in the car. JMO

 

[fridaybaker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023120129907675138

This is exactly NOT what was said in the FBI statement!

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I still think front door lantana guy was part of a team and maybe simply supposed to dismantle the camera and be on the lookout at the front of the house and maybe he was the getaway driver too. I think another or other perpetrators were inside while he remained outside on watch.

Exactly what I think. He may have been the one smashing the other outside cameras. Perhaps his job was driving and taking out the cameras outside. JMO

 

[Mistermagoo]

Isn't it simply this? Among the many gloves that have been picked up near her house, there was one which didn't look like the others, which were all gloves used by searchers/LE. That glove, which looked different from the others, DID have DNA on it. They haven't gotten the results of a DNA profile yet, but that glove, that wasn't a searchers glove and had DNA on it, DID look like the one used by porch guy on the video.

Yes?

THIS!!! Explained perfectly. Please scream it from the mountain top cuz people ain't getting it

 

[shonyakay]

DBM - They didn't litter if they collected them. Duh.