AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Arkay]

Tonight I’m praying as we are all praying and bracing for the news that will be coming. I’ve been angry about this one. EXTREMELY ANGRY that some rando came and took a beautiful elderly woman out of HER SAFE PLACE, HER HOME. I’m currently a “new member” to all of you, but I’ve been here before. I discovered WS 18 years ago. I got hooked when they discussed the Sheila & Katherine Lyon disappearance from a mall in Maryland that looked exactly like a mall I use to go to. They were very close in age to myself, and it haunted me because I was almost taken… TWICE…To all of you who are truly new, follow the rules. I was booted a few times because my emotions got out of control on some cases especially Delphi, Jennifer Dulos & Kristen Smart.Thank you to all of the moderators and especially to Tricia who keeps this AMAZING SHIP SAILING. God Bless. I think this outcome is going to be hard to understand just as the case has been.

Welcome back @KivaloNyomozo’ !

I’m still in flux over everything as I vacillate over what I believe has happened to her.

In any event I do believe this was an attempt at profit——not some kind of obsessed SG fan, or a family member going “wilding.”

Whether the intent was initially just an “ordinary” home robbery and something went awry, or if it was always a kidnapping for millions in Bitcoin, I’ve no idea.

I want her to come home alive and in the tender loving care of her family, with the perpetrator(s) locked up.

Yet as time crawls by, even the stress on Nancy could be fatal. She’d likely be so worried for how her children are coping. Already having a pacemaker indicates heart problems and who knows if she’d even have a stroke during this ordeal.

This would presuppose that’s she’s even still alive.

JM speculations, with all wishes for a miracle.

 

[Han]

Depends on how long ago they became deceased.

Unconscious people can’t support their own weight. It becomes a ‘dead’ weight carry. Possibly not difficult if over the shoulder, but still…

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023203989899415695

 

[VegasGirl35]

I'm with everyone who's having trouble reconciling "burglary gone wrong" with "Nancy still being alive." The likelihood of kidnapping someone on the fly and being able to contain and hide them away for two weeks without being detected is slim to none.

 

[SMK777]

I'm with everyone who's having trouble reconciling "burglary gone wrong" with "Nancy still being alive." The likelihood of kidnapping someone on the fly and being able to contain and hide them away for two weeks without being detected is slim to none.

Right, it just defies logic.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Unconscious people can’t support their own weight. It becomes a ‘dead’ weight carry. Possibly not difficult if over the shoulder, but still…

Right. What I’m saying is it is easier to carry an unconscious person or very recently deceased person than some who has been dead for a few hours. Once rigor mortis sets in, it becomes very difficult to lift someone.

 

[SaraSmile]

I could see a burglary gone wrong with fatal results. That's easily conceivable and happens, especially with a medically compromised 84 year old. It's basically a trope in crime movies with blundering amateurs. But a burglary gone wrong into a kidnapping is highly unusual. I don't even know how that would go down logistically.

The full backpacks on the way in, make me wonder about the burglary theory? Most thieves would bring empty bags. I still think the whole thing was premed, and the backpack is a kit.
Very hard to imagine taking the occupant, most burglars just run away quickly, almost impossible to remember their features even.

I was burglarized 3 times when living in San Francisco, very common…The last time was a hot prowl, early 6 am, when I was home. She had come into a ground floor kitchen window, open for the cats. I caught her crawling across my BR floor in the direction of my purse on dresser. I woke up quickly ordered her out. It was a young woman, high, condoms in hand, she said a man was following her, bothering her( I assumed a pimp). I called my work partner, he said call cops, report they came dusted, but no way I would ever be able to identify. She left so fast.
I moved to a very safe town about a month later.

JMO

 

[JaimeInLA]

MOO but I feel like Savannah is speaking to someone in particular in this video.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023181112026259856

 

[MsMatlock]

Yes, if a body is recovered. Could that be a factor in how the investigation is playing out?

I think it should have been a big factor in helping to locate Nancy from the start no matter the outcome. But I do wonder about the message that mentioned “going international” as I doubt the helicopter can cross the border.

 

[GMG1999]

Another reason why ground searches should have been done. I believe her body could have possibly been gotten rid of right after the crime

I have thought for awhile, if that glove ends up being from the person, then they put NG somewhere first, which means close.

 

[Former Reporter]

I am 100% imagining at this very moment the DNA has been entered into Codis (I know what they said about 24 hours) and MANY people are around computer screens working fiercely to find a match. Let this be the day….

I agree. My heart hurts for SG and her family. I can't think of anything more excruciating than not knowing.

 

[jtfolden]

So LE has not said if the wifi was cut or disconnected to the house, so whether it was or not is presently unknown?

I thought perhaps they had and it was the OPs opinion the cable was cut leading to the house. That’s quite specific.

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that electric or internet was cut. There is no evidence WiFi was disabled either. People imagine scenarios and some run with it.

 

[Sessiebo]

I'm with everyone who's having trouble reconciling "burglary gone wrong" with "Nancy still being alive." The likelihood of kidnapping someone on the fly and being able to contain and hide them away for two weeks without being detected is slim to none.

Is it possible to hide her in the desert somewhere? As i understand it's a huge area. He put her somewhere out of sight and bolted perhaps? Idk - JMO

 

[GMG1999]

I think it should have been a big factor in helping to locate Nancy from the start no matter the outcome. But I do wonder about the message that mentioned “going international” as I doubt the helicopter can cross the border.

Have anymore ransom letters from the one who knows who it is, been received?

 

[MissLaura]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023202379341152562

 

[wendybtn]

I would be cautious about infantilizing someone. The ageism in this discussion is concerning.

Just off the top of my head I (in my 60s) know people in their 70s and 80s who are maintaining rigorous schedules in the community band, who are leaders in the garden club, who still work, who maintain their own properties, who put in a lot of hours doing childcare for their family members, who drive large RVs, etc.

My former neighbor, at age 90, used to have a large vegetable garden each year and SHE would be snowblowering my driveway while I was still lying in bed. She wrote two books in her 80s, on a computer, and still drove 100 miles a few times a month to visit her sister.

There is no indication that NG had any cognitive decline, isolation, loneliness. She had mobility issues but she seemed to have a fairly active life. She still owned and presumably drove a vehicle.

Using the same old FB photo is nothing. I personally have a 20-year-old photo on LinkedIn because I don't like images of myself.

Asking how to get to the airport? Maybe she wanted to greet someone. Maybe she offered to pick up someone. Maybe she was looking that up for a friend. She didn't need anyone to "arrange a shuttle" for her.

NG is/was not a doddering, incompetent person, based upon anything I've read. It was stated when the disappearance was first announced that she was "sharp as a tack." Lots of people look up things online out of curiosity, not need or desperation.

As to the porch pirate, it didn't unnerve her too much as she didn't move, hire security guards or purchase a Ring subscription.

And I have taken care of people in their 50-90s in home who cannot do for themselves. It's disease, genetics, and lifestyle. Anything can happen to anyone at any time.

 

[wibbleflea]

The full backpacks on the way in, make me wonder about the burglary theory?

Backpacks aside, what we’re seeing in the FBI video may be from the end, not the beginning, of the whole thing.

 

[JaimeInLA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023202379341152562

Both the PCSO and the FBI have denied this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023201882605605097

 

[SaraSmile]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023203989899415695

Wow, I’m really impressed with SG, she always has the exact right tenor. I love that she is pleading with the perps to do the right thing. Appealing to the goodness in all of us.
SG really is a very strong woman, She is really a good role model. Instead of turning to anger or resentment, she takes the high road, very, very endearing!

We stand with you Savannah!