AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Mystery to me, too. I suppose LE knows. The card said Debra somebody. ???? jmo

Could Elder Services have been at NG's house before the abduction and she never got the card from the door? LE hopefully contact the name on the card and has more information. Curious. Could be significant. MOO

 

[TheDinks]

I just listened to Brian Entin's latest YouTube video. I knew the police were working non-stop on this, and kudos to them. But the police department sounds like it has a lot of issues due to retaliation and a lot of people leaving (around 46:00). I really hope that Sergeant Cross doesn't get too much flack for doing this interview. I really hope the FBI can take over the case officially and publicly.
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I hope Nanos gets booted and Sergeant Cross gets promoted!

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Yes. Could you please list the permitted sources again? Thank you

Check out what’s posted on media thread?

 

[cady]

Could Elder Services have been at NG's house before the abduction and she never got the card from the door? LE hopefully contact the name on the card and has more information. Curious. Could be significant. MOO

I think it was there before.

 

[PacoElFlaco]

To me this is extremely insightful commentary, sorry if it's been posted before but I've only just watched it.

I buy everything Jay Armes III is selling!

CBS News Texas reporter Amelia Mugavero sits down with international private investigator Jay Armes III to watch surveillance images released by the FBI in an effort to identify a masked figure seen on video. He says the footage could be a major breakthrough.

His father, the late Jay J. Armes was a real-life superhero! Both his arms were blown off at the elbows in a blasting cap mishap when he was a boy. He overcame this to grow up to be a master private detective who rescued the son of Marlon Brando from kidnappers. I had the honor of meeting Jay J. Armes briefly some years ago. This guy knew his stuff, ran a school for private investigators and even had an action figure based on him in the 1970s. I am sure he told his son everything he knew. I was just saying to my wife the other day that it's a shame Jay J. Armes was no longer with us to help with the Guthrie case.

 

[Andreee]

Could Elder Services have been at NG's house before the abduction and she never got the card from the door? LE hopefully contact the name on the card and has more information. Curious. Could be significant. MOO

It could be. I haven't seen anything at all mentioned about it other than in one place but I can't recall where. So I hope it is verified.

 

[Sundog]

SG used the words that FBI experts told her to use. And she did it really well. JMO

And I also think that her body posture/way of sitting in a relaxed and comfortable manner is part of the messaging. JMO

 

[TheDinks]

Could Elder Services have been at NG's house before the abduction and she never got the card from the door? LE hopefully contact the name on the card and has more information. Curious. Could be significant. MOO

If the card was there prior to LE processing the scene I guess I'm surprised it wasn't bagged.

I mean, I am far from having knowledge but using logic - elderly lady abducted - bloody scene - card in door relating to elderly abuse - surely it would be looked into...

 

[buyerninety]

dbm

 

[Winter67]

Could it have been a simple burglary at first? Someone who has been there and seen a vulnerable semi isolated woman. Than maybe saw photos of Savannah and realized where he was and maybe a bigger payday. Maybe he tried to get info from her or make her try to exhort money and she refused hence the blood. He was in there 40 minutes. I was absolutely leaning toward the son-in-law but this is the craziest case I've seen. I don't think I need to link the 40 minutes in there because it's been sourced over and over here.

 

[cady]

Absolutely it could be! I haven't seen anything at all mentioned about it other than in one place but I can't recall where. So I hope it is verified.

There is a pic of it somewhere way back, but I don't know where to look for it. jmo I remember the name Debra on it.

 

[tbgo]

Especially since NG was likely carried and there are no smear marks from whoever is carrying her. Unless NG's blood dropped behind him as he walked forward. JMO

Talking heads have brought up the possibility of a tarp. One said that her head might have fallen to the side causing the blood droplets. They said that the perp might have put something under her to stop the bleeding because the last thing the person is going to want is blood in their car. I’m sure the cars they’ve taken in for processing are being checked for any specks of blood.

 

[whitelilac]

Absolutely it could be! I haven't seen anything at all mentioned about it other than in one place but I can't recall where. So I hope it is verified.

Plus, if she habitually went through the garage, she would not have even seen the card.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

And I also think that her body posture/way of sitting in a relaxed and comfortable manner is part of the messaging. JMO

Agree. In talking with the kidnapper via the video, SG acted, looked and communicated in a relaxed, comfortable and caring way. JMO

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Talking heads have brought up the possibility of a tarp.

Quite possible. And blood could have dripped off the tarp. MOO

 

[jtfolden]

Could it have been a simple burglary at first? Someone who has been there and seen a vulnerable semi isolated woman. Than maybe saw photos of Savannah and realized where he was and maybe a bigger payday. Maybe he tried to get info from her or make her try to exhort money and she refused hence the blood. He was in there 40 minutes. I was absolutely leaning toward the son-in-law but this is the craziest case I've seen. I don't think I need to link the 40 minutes in there because it's been sourced over and over here.

We don’t really know exactly how long he was in there. The doorbell was disconnected approx 1:47 but another camera detected motion at 2:12, then her pacemaker disconnected from her Apple device around 2:28.

I had thought earlier on it was saint 2:12 motion detection was from an indoor camera but I can’t find that source at the moment.

It doesn’t really make sense that a simple burglary would turn into an abduction though. Taking her from the house was a bigger risk to him than leaving her behind unless she saw his face or knew him by his voice.

 

[The Pinkest Lady]

I think it’s very interesting the caption says that NEXT right thing….

This implies the kidnapper has done something right to this point, to me anyway.

It immediately makes me think .the song from Frozen 2.

 

[tbgo]

Could it have been a simple burglary at first? Someone who has been there and seen a vulnerable semi isolated woman. Than maybe saw photos of Savannah and realized where he was and maybe a bigger payday. Maybe he tried to get info from her or make her try to exhort money and she refused hence the blood. He was in there 40 minutes. I was absolutely leaning toward the son-in-law but this is the craziest case I've seen. I don't think I need to link the 40 minutes in there because it's been sourced over and over here.

I don’t know. Yes, Savannah is a public figure but to be in the midst of what they’re doing and to see a photo of someone who, let’s be honest, looks like a lot of people, I don’t know if someone would really put it together that quickly. Especially if the person is a young person. How many are actually tuning in to The Today Show? For all they know the woman could have met her at an event. At any rate, they didn’t leave a ransom note. They haven’t gotten any money. So what was the point?

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Could Elder Services have been at NG's house before the abduction and she never got the card from the door? LE hopefully contact the name on the card and has more information. Curious. Could be significant. MOO

This is my worst fear. That this was a massive administrative failure by local government to provide required services.

 

[annpats]

Very true! I just think there would be more blood if you had a two inch opening near your heart. If it was removed, IMO it would have been done indoors. Has anyone heard of a blood trail inside the home? Wondering about details of the evidence found inside…

Yes, the trail of blood wasn't a huge amount, but then again, the perps could've applied a bandage or a wound dressing of some sort (bought from Walmart, obviously!) and this could've been the blood that escaped from that.

Again, speculation. But at this point it's still all we have.

MOO.