AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Sadi]

What in your opinion, was in it? Could it have simply been an internal frame?
In a kidnapping scenario, it would make far more sense to follow the victim until they are somewhat isolated, right?
This criminal looked incompetent, in that he was playing with the doorbell camera, and forced his way in. Why go through that just to kidnap someone, when you could grab them outside a store or while they are on a walk?

Some ideas- rope, zip ties, tape, tarp or something to wrap her in etc.

 

[maskedwoman]

To be fair a good number of murders, kidnappers evade detection as details of case a pieced together. Brian Laundry, Scott Peterson, Casey Anthony, etc. I dont think any of them were criminal masterminds, but it just goes to show us it takes time and there is a process.

Well, in Casey's situation, it also took a raft of high priced experts and lawyers, and parents lying on the stand. I've never in my life seen so many people line up to take care of a useless party princess. Oftentimes, the more of a circus that comes with the case, the less likely it's going to be resolved. Casey, OJ, etc. I sure hope we don't add NG to that list.

I'm not hopeful that NG survived long after the first images were captured on the doorbell camera, but I do have hope that it will be solved. There are a lot of things LE has managed to keep quiet. Details of the break in, what was found inside the house, how many people they think were involved, etc. I hope that means they have more than we know. They usually do.

 

[SMK777]

CONJECTURE

Do you remember the Clutter family murders? Perry Smith and Richard Hickock believed a false rumor about the amount of money Mr. Clutter kept in his safe. Rumors often exaggerate a person's access to wealth, especially if they are famous. In a scenario where bugulars did not find what they were looking for, NG would suddenly become the most valuable thing in the house.

Yes, I have often thought of that cellmate of Hickcock's which led him to plan the robbery, all based on false information from a gossip and braggart-- in relation to this Guthrie case.

Could someone who worked on her house have exaggerated in similar fashion and put the idea in someone's head to do this crime? I think it's very plausible.

 

[Jenny9]

I see your point of view.

I think it could be a complete stranger to Nancy who just decided to burglarize her home that night.

I was specifically meaning she could have told him about her daughter being the host of the Today Show while he was in her home that night.

Everyone knows the Today Show.
He knew he would be SOL regardless of what he decided to do with her at that point so he decided to take her.
I am just thinking out loud.

I'm sure aside from being very scared she might have told them that her daughter is famous and they can pay them any amount of money, moo

 

[LivvyL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023376230066880937

Interesting.
I wonder about the sliding doors on the end of the house. The opposite end of from the garage there is sliding door and a small patio.

 

[SkidRogue]

But then you'd expect the house to have been ransacked first. They're not going to immediately take the elderly lady when nothing valuable is in plain sight. They're going to rummage through her underwear and socks drawers, the medicine cabinet, and the freezer at least. Also, her purse was found in the home.

MOO

I actually agree with that. I just have a huge problem with the 1/2 hour the intruders spent in her home. Since the house wasn't ransacked, what the heck were they doing? Do we know for certain they were in the house during that time?

 

[OldCop]

Wasn't that through the VIN only? And didn't show previous owners, only current dealership (call it dealership Y) who just sold it on the 13th (to call it buyer Z) ? Title has not had time to transfer to buyer Z yet, so dealer Y still shows as owner most likely. Carfax would show who had it before then (dealerships & owners A through X).

Yes, but if the dealership sold it 2 days after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, the dealer plates would not be on it. A new owner will have permanent license plates when they take their vehicle from the dealer. Most dealers have a runner who goes to the dmv one or more times a day with the paperwork. They attach the new plates so it is ready for you at pick up. If you sell or turn in your current vehicle at the same time, you can use your old plates in most states.
Photo from Fox News 10 shows what appears to be a paper plate which has been covered by LE on the night they towed it.
(Note: I see the vehicle is a Land Rover. I have referred to it as a Range Rover in a previous post.)

 

[oc1234]

Hello, good morning Nin!

What do you think that white thing is lying in the doorway? Is that a sheet, a painters tarp??? Doesn't make sense that it is there.

I do believe the perp removed the camera or tried to at least at the front door @ 1:47 am and was unsuccessful (Lantana capture) I do believe he made his way to the back sliding door via the gate you had mentioned was left open. I do believe he took Nancy out of the house via the front door because a vehicle was parked near the front of the house. But for entry---I think it was the back door.

Now that begs the question. Did she have a bar she could put in that slider? If so, then how did he gain entry thru that door?

imo the sliding door is on the casita which has 2 sliding doors. One facing the courtyard and one facing the driveway near the garage. We have not seen any footage showing a slider on the house itself.

 

[LRinCA]

As anyone who followed the Idaho College case knows, you don't have to do anything so dramatic to get in a sliding door. There are videos on YouTube on how to get inside a locked sliding door in moments.

MOO

I didn't see a sliding glass door. I do see a large picture-type window with a sofa sitting under the ledge of the window. I was surprised because I always pictured sliding glass doors in the covered porch area.

 

[Jenny9]

What in your opinion, was in it? Could it have simply been an internal frame?
In a kidnapping scenario, it would make far more sense to follow the victim until they are somewhat isolated, right?
This criminal looked incompetent, in that he was playing with the doorbell camera, and forced his way in. Why go through that just to kidnap someone, when you could grab them outside a store or while they are on a walk?

An extra backpack for loot?change of clothes knowing he might be recognized so would need to change?the other guy on video was ruled out supposedly, yet he had 2 backpacks,kinda strange too

 

[danablue1]

As anyone who followed the Idaho College case knows, you don't have to do anything so dramatic to get in a sliding door. There are videos on YouTube on how to get inside a locked sliding door in moments.

MOO

The lock was broken in thst case so easy in

 

[shonyakay]

His backpack looked full when he was trying to enter the property though.

We don't know if he was entering or if had already been inside possibly via the sliding glass door in the back.

 

[rjbeachqueen]

Where is this image coming from? It is a range rover that was found/taken at Culvers restaurant. This is a land rover.

Yes, but if the dealership sold it 2 days after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, the dealer plates would not be on it. A new owner will have permanent license plates when they take their vehicle from the dealer. Most dealers have a runner who goes to the dmv one or more times a day with the paperwork. They attach the new plates so it is ready for you at pick up. If you sell or turn in your current vehicle at the same time, you can use your old plates in most states.
Photo from Fox News 10 shows what appears to be a paper plate which has been covered by LE on the night they towed it.
(Note: I see the vehicle is a Land Rover. I have referred to it as a Range Rover in a previous post.)

 

[oc1234]

Yes, but if the dealership sold it 2 days after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, the dealer plates would not be on it. A new owner will have permanent license plates when they take their vehicle from the dealer. Most dealers have a runner who goes to the dmv one or more times a day with the paperwork. They attach the new plates so it is ready for you at pick up. If you sell or turn in your current vehicle at the same time, you can use your old plates in most states.
Photo from Fox News 10 shows what appears to be a paper plate which has been covered by LE on the night they towed it.
(Note: I see the vehicle is a Land Rover. I have referred to it as a Range Rover in a previous post.)

I think AZ has paper/poly temporary plates as well as paper dealer plates so could be either a dealer or temp plate. This differs state by state. Where I'm at, they have changed the process over the years. (not AZ)

 

[SMK777]

I actually agree with that. I just have a huge problem with the 1/2 hour the intruders spent in her home. Since the house wasn't ransacked, what the heck were they doing? Do we know for certain they were in the house during that time?

"If you are a crook and you want to burglarize a place, you're [going to] get in there and get the hell out," Williams said on "Saturday in America."

"They stayed in 41 minutes."

41-minute timeline in Nancy Guthrie case raises red flags from ex-homicide detective

A former homicide detective flags a suspicious 41-minute timeline in the disappearance of Arizona woman Nancy Guthrie after doorbell camera activity raises questions.

www.aol.com

 

[SaraSmile]

Of course it is possible and believable. But it won't be hotel level accommodations or like being at home.

A room, place to sleep, food once a day. Bucket near by or taken to the bathroom twice a day.
Maybe a change of clothing.

People have been held captive with sparse or dismal accommodations and survived.
Women and children were detained in horrid conditions in WWII for example.

But yes an elderly person with health issues is at risk.

It is barely possible, and not really believable.
SG’s plea must be another coded message to perps. ( At least get body back, maybe evidence)
Unfortunately, “ Doing the right thing”, isn’t really their thing!

 

[Curiousraccoon]

Hello, good morning Nin!

What do you think that white thing is lying in the doorway? Is that a sheet, a painters tarp??? Doesn't make sense that it is there.

I do believe the perp removed the camera or tried to at least at the front door @ 1:47 am and was unsuccessful (Lantana capture) I do believe he made his way to the back sliding door via the gate you had mentioned was left open. I do believe he took Nancy out of the house via the front door because a vehicle was parked near the front of the house. But for entry---I think it was the back door.

Now that begs the question. Did she have a bar she could put in that slider? If so, then how did he gain entry thru that door?

Just want to point out that this is a door to the Casita / guest House.

 

[Sarahlou]

What in your opinion, was in it? Could it have simply been an internal frame?
In a kidnapping scenario, it would make far more sense to follow the victim until they are somewhat isolated, right?
This criminal looked incompetent, in that he was playing with the doorbell camera, and forced his way in. Why go through that just to kidnap someone, when you could grab them outside a store or while they are on a walk?

I saw a video where someone on one of the US news programmes bought that brand rucksack and filled it up to look like his. So no, I don't think it was a frame.

Well it depends what he had in mind. I'm still not convinced this wasn't just some sicko who went there to attack an elderly woman and then remove her body to hide evidence. It's the ransom notes that make it extra confusing if that was the case though.

 

[Napoli]

If that were the case, I'd expect the kidnapper to want more of a dialogue with or access to SG. Instead, we've had several belated ransom requests that don't seem to be about communication of anything but demands for money. They don't seem to be personalised like someone who had a fantasised parasocial relationship with SG would write.

We don't know WHAT ELSE was in those ransom notes. Harvey Levin said they were articulate and well written. You don't think they are going to tip off an obsessed celebrity stalker by putting out a profile saying this is a love sick , possibly poetic, perp along with a bid for ransom? NO, just the ransom demand was made public. HL has refused to reveal the whole ransom note, publicly. IIRC, one began DEAR SAVANNA. That's a tip off right there.. Addressing her directly. NOT ONE "EXPERT" has posited my theory. Pay attention to what you DON'T hear in the MSM and from LE. JMO

 

[Sadi]

Feb 16, 2026
A glove containing DNA found about two miles from the house of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother appears to match those worn by a masked person outside her front door in Tucson the night she vanished, the FBI said Sunday. Rachel Menitoff reports Feb. 15, 2026

The Lantana man was covered head to toe in coverings, how was his DNA discovered in the house? What was it? Did he sneeze and even with the masks on, droplets fell onto a surface? I think there were two people inside, maybe the second person wasn’t as careful and his/her hand physically touched something?