AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

Something I've been think about randomly. There's no reports of drag marks away from either door, the floor possibly looks gritty enough for there to be something? If she was carried that means the person would need to be fairly strong, or possibly two perps. Just a thought

I think two perps.

 

[stmichael]

Exactly what I think. They only used the front door as a speedy escape and they needed the nest cam totally disabled so the perps wouldn't be seen, NG's condition wouldn't be known and their vehicle wouldn't be seen. JMO

Right, but he sauntered up to the front door and seemed surprised by the doorbell cam.

Had there been an accomplice waiting inside to open the door and security door I feel the approach would be different. Why take the gun out and display it in an awkward way that prohibits movement at that point (remember he was lingering off frame outside of the vestibule without the backpack on and the gun still concealed before going to the front door). Was the door discovered open? Why even close it in that case (it may have even remained lock as far as we know).

I agree the front door would be the most direct exit point and likely the way to remove a person from the house, and that an accomplice could have already been inside to exit through the front door. But the actions/mannerisms of the Nest cam masked man just don't seem consistent w/ this to me.. YMMV.

I would also be curios if that front door remained locked. I use a keyed double cylinder deadbolt on steel security doors like that. I wonder what the investigation determined there and how it was left. The latest drone video showed the rear patio with no signs of forced entry, and investigators have yet to confirm if there was any forced entry involved.

 

[Moonchime]

Hot prowl, in my opinion, is when residents are home, the burglar may be willing to take on the resident, commit violence. They usually carry a knife or gun to harm resident. They don’t want to wake anyone up, just stealing, but will take on if confronted. JMO

No idea if that applies here, we still don’t know the motive.

All JMO

My husband, daughter, and I lived in Tucson during the time of the "Primetime rapist". It was utterly terrifying. I didn't feel safe even though we owned guns. He definitely did some Hot Prowling to determine which homes to hit. He came armed and ready, and he was dangerous! PrimeTime Rapist

 

[Derdew]

Has anyone posted in this thread about similarities between SG's latest video and quotes from the film Tomorrowland?
Spoken by George Clooney.

“You are not lost.”
“You are not alone.”
“It’s never too late.”
“We are here.”
“We believe in the essential goodness of every human being.”

I totally believe the ransom note writer has ask them to communicate in movie quotes. There is no other way to explain these bizarre movie quotes

 

[BellaToothless]

I think two perps.

At least - if that truly is a walkie talkie antenna in lantana man pics and video I think right coat pocket.

 

[SMK777]

I was gobsmacked (love that word) to learn that the investigators detained three people and towed a RR about 2 miles from NG's home. I thought the perp(s) would have gone to Mexico straight away. MOO

Maybe they don't have the resources to flee. When you think about it, it's not that easy to pick up and run unless you have a lot to cover gas, airline, food, hotels, etc. Just being in a car for instance would lead to the likelihood of being caught.

 

[Napoli]

Definitely very strange the reference to movies. Has to be for a very specific reason

The conflict of TOMORROW LAND IS HOPE VS SURRENDER. The message is people are still worth saving and human potential matters. JMO

 

[Roadette]

TMZ Receives 4th Nancy Guthrie Demand Email, Come Forward and Tell Us

TMZ has received a 4th email from the man claiming to know who kidnapped Nancy Guthrie and where she is ... and we have a proposition for that person.

www.tmz.com

Re: Latest Harvey Levin communication. I doubt a Latino who is intimately related to Mexico or central America, or someone who is intimately in contact with a criminal cartel/gang located there, is going to refer to it as "South of the Border". Probably just a lunatic opportunist.

JMO.

She would attract less attention in an area frequented by American tourists though, right? The person writes like an American, I’m not dead set they are Latino. If the person was convicted of burglary, they could be on the run and need safety or a pardon.

I wasn’t sure what to make of the “if you pay, we’ll return her within 7 hours” comment from the previous letter, but somewhere in Mexico could easily meet that timeline and make it harder for LE to get cooperation to bring her home. Around the time we learned that I had started wondering if she was down there.

 

[tricia]

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WFLA Live, which is still streaming as of Monday, February 16 at 1:50 PM Eastern, had Brian Entin on earlier. Brian Entin said he believes this case will be solved and advised everyone to watch the next 24 to 48 hours closely. I can’t provide a timestamp yet because the broadcast is still live.

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[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

IMO, the front door was made ready for a speedy escape. It’s the only exit that has the fastest direct route to the road. IMO entrance was not made by the front door (either NG opening it or otherwise).

IMO the perp in the video didn't enter through the front door. Rather he or somebody inside unlocked the front door from the inside prior to moving through it to their vehicle on the driveway right by the front door and front walk way.

How he dealt with the nest cam should be interesting to LE. Surely they had cased the house and knew there was a nest cam. Maybe originally they were going to go out through the back door and side yard and thought they wouldn't be seen on the nest cam driving away from the scene, which could have been true but a huge risk.

But, either way, he acted totally calm and unbothered by seeing the nest cam. He didn't just spray paint it or cover it with duct tape while he disabled it. He also didn't seem prepared with a screwdriver or nest cam tool to take it off the door. Just from the video, his body language seemed calm, unstressed and almost casual as he looked around for something to disable the nest cam or to cover the nest cam, and then, without seeming stressed or in a big rush, he picked up the lantana to use.

JMO

 

[SMK777]

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WFLA Live, which is still streaming as of Monday, February 16 at 1:50 PM Eastern, had Brian Entin on earlier. Brian Entin said he believes this case will be solved and advised everyone to watch the next 24 to 48 hours closely. I can’t provide a timestamp yet because the broadcast is still live.

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THANKS VERY MUCH .
Great news. Fingers crossed

 

[ArabianLover]

Weird. Have heard of burglaries gone wrong where the victim is killed at the home but not where the victim is taken from the home. That requires a lot of effort.

Totally agree with this. Removing the victim would point a relationship between the victim & assailant. Much like placing a blanket over the face of the victim.

 

[Brightchaser47]

I totally believe the ransom note writer has ask them to communicate in movie quotes. There is no other way to explain these bizarre movie quotes

Which makes me all the more curious about what's in the "ransom notes" that we don't know about...jmo

 

[KivaloNyomozo’]

A new ransom note. I think they should pay. I think there is validity here for the person who wants to say who it is or “what they sew”. Who agrees?

 

[FaviousM]

I totally believe the ransom note writer has ask them to communicate in movie quotes. There is no other way to explain these bizarre movie quotes

Was there anything similar in the second video? Nothing stands out in my mind but I remember the wording being super weird

 

[BellaToothless]

Subject’s right jackets pocket showing a bulk. Tool or Walkie Talkie, as mentioned before by a poster:
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Subject also seem to either have a belly, or he was layered up? If it’s a belly, he is not worried showing it. He is layered up in case of a fight?
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Images from FBI video:

ALL IMO

Cheers,
Nin

Here is the post that seems to show a walkie talkie antenna in right front coat pocket of lantana man. That would mean 2 or more perps at the house.

Edited to add talkie

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

As per CNN a few minutes ago - if they/he would just hand over the info to the FBI, they/he are entitled to the $100,000 reward. No TMZ needed.

 

[slowpoke]

Curious. I realize lots of people go thru their garage vs front door when they come home, but looking at where the driveway is to the front door vs to the garage (having to back out), wouldn't it be more practical (for SIL and her) to have gone thru the front when dropped off? Must have been a normal routine. On the other hand, the opener conveniently made a record of when she was dropped off. Again, there could be a great explaination, but I do question it.

Maybe easier for the driver to drive up to the front door, but maybe not for mobility-impaired NG.

In addition to the steps she’d have to climb, it looks like there is a stone path she’d be walking on to get to those steps. The stone path looks appealing to the eye, but has an uneven surface which could be hazardous for one who is not sure-footed.
The garage likely had better light and a flatter, easier to walk on surface.

jmo

See pic: (from this link)

 

[aamillaa]

Attaching a brief plot of Tomorrowland - I think this has absolute links ... Remember the first letter was said to be written by someone if intelligence - Frank Walker was a boy genius, now cynical about life. The idea that you can change things and make different choices, is fitting here.

The Silence of the Lambs quotes were in the first SG video, responding to the initial ransom note, right?

To me, this signals SG/LE connects the ransom note writer to this “I know who did it” writer.

Maybe proof of life was never sent bc this person isn’t directly involved but has had knowledge of the crime since the beginning. So ransom was never a motive for the perp, but $$ is the motivation for this person with knowledge. Or maybe they played a much lesser role and think they can’t be prosecuted.

MOO

 

[VegasGirl35]

Which makes me all the more curious about what's in the "ransom notes" that we don't know about...jmo

It makes me wonder if there's negotiations going on behind the scenes and the movie quotes are coded language for "we're getting the money together" or something like that. Maybe Savannah is going to pay the 6 mil but has to liquidate some assets first.