AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[1.618]

Is there a way to compile as much information as possible and get an expert in AI to run algorithms to come up with new information that may not have looked at yet. Just a thought from left field.

I feel like if the possibility exists that she was taken across the border, perhaps an AI scan of face images from vehicles traveling past the checkpoint would be potentially helpful. They also have heat scanners to detect life forms not readily visible from the windows (like for human smuggling). So even if a live person were in a trunk it would be visible that way and surely would prompt further investigation. At least that's how it is for cars entering the US, not sure about those leaving the US.

 

[No it’s not]

New clues in search for Nancy Guthrie

The Pima County sheriff says DNA from a glove found two miles from Nancy Guthrie’s home does not match profiles in the national database, but that DNA taken from her property could belong to a suspect. NBC News’ Liz Kreutz reports.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Chainspell]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024206390382952787

 

[stmichael]

Unfortunately, I have a different type of security camera where images remain on my Windows laptop hard drive, even with my camera disconnected.

Anyone know why the following steps do not work for a (Google) Nest camera like Nancy Guthrie had?

On Computers

• Windows: Open File Explorer (Windows Key + E) and click on the Downloads folder in the left sidebar.

On Mobile Devices

• Android: Open your app drawer, find the Files or My Files app, and look in the Downloads folder.
• iPhone/iPad: Open the Files app, tap the "Browse" tab, and select On My iPhone/iPad > Downloads.

Michael T.
Software Engineer (retired)

Not sure if I follow the exact question but...

Nest cams are primarily cloud directed, with limited internal storage, allowing them to record up to 1 hour of events if the Wi-Fi goes offline. However, they do not have expandable SD card slots; this local memory acts solely as a backup, with primary recordings requiring a cloud-based subscription.

Learn how Nest cameras store recorded video - Google Nest Help

Important: Your camera needs to be connected to both Wi-Fi and the Nest service to upload video to the cloud. All Google Nest cameras and doorbells can securely upload and save video in the cloud. On

support.google.com

My older CCTVs were locally based DVRs (SSDs) but even my newer 4K POE CCTV system is fully cloud dependent (though a backup drive can be added) and app accessible though it can be configured through Windows. My Ring ecosystem is all cloud based but I understand some models offer local storage options through Ring Alarm Pro with a Micro SD card that requires a Ring Edge subscription.

 

[shonyakay]

Still can’t get past he used the FRONT DOOR to enter…when there is an accessible back yard. It’s like he wanted to be seen. Did I miss a post on the back not being accessible?

I don't think he wanted to be seen. It looks like he was going to attempt to summon someone to the front door based on him appearing to make a fist to bang on the front door before he notices the camera. Then he starts to block the view with his fist and attempts to remove the camera but can't.

Who was he attempting to bang for. An accomplice? Nancy?

The fact that he removed the camera and took it with him makes me believe that he didn't want nor expect to be captured on that door cam.

 

[chaz]

Are you saying shadows have moved or is there more?

No, the thing next to the plant has moved. I tried to frame the thing in both pictures. It moved more to the background. I'll try again.
Edited to ad picture from Spectrix's post. AZ - Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

 

[Vaderman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024206390382952787

Sheesh. Seems like it's time for another joint press conference so everyone can get on board.

 

[Bodhi]

After posting my in depth analysis of the No-Backpack image, someone bought me Guardianship.
But I don't know who.

Thank you so much, kind person

Here is something else I was looking at, mask man's shoes appear to have a distinct two tone black/white sole:
(Source - original FBI video, my own captures)

View attachment 646273

WOW. That's excellent. Thank you to the WSers who gifted the Guardian membership.

 

[dogmom805]

And looks like he is wearing makeup. Especially eye liner. Hair nicely done. Just an attention seeker.

Can you please lead me to where to find the video of this neighbor? TY

 

[cait2007]

I noticed on the last tmz article regarding a 5th email they’ve received, it’s a new writer! They really need to stop giving them the publicity. Hand it over to FBI and stop announcing it! It’s giving them what they want- attention and notoriety!

Also, have you noticed that tmz mentioned the search at gun shops was cold and essentially, starting they’re grasping at straws for a lead. This must be purposeful, because I doubt LE has absolutely nothing to go on. Maybe they’re waiting for a slip up by the perp and want him/them to feel like they’ve gotten away with it?!

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024153235939106980

 

[kansasmom6]

My theories and things that got me scratching my head..
If it was kidnapping why would they not push more for a ransom with proof if life?
Robbery doesn't seem likely because you wouldn't want dead weight to have to worry about.
Walmart clothing bought to be generic because 1000s of people's buy the same stuff. If planned ahead of time they may have ordered through app.
Seems as though the guy at front door was just there for looks.
Why did sheriff department release the scene with blood ?
Who called Adult protective services and why? ( I know the neighbor)
I guess I just don't understand motive ( I just don't see it)but yet this seems like it was planned out to some degree. I also have issues with NG home seems as though nothing was disrupted if they released the scene so quickly. This person or people (or someone in charge) thought some stuff out and that is why they are struggling with evidence. Imo

 

[Arkay]

I wonder if recent Uber drivers, or car service drivers, have been interviewed. Statistically most are OK, like any group of people, but someone took NG. A hired driver could make friendly, casual conversation, find out she lived alone, had no dog, and could watch or help her get in or out of the car, seeing she couldn't move easily. It would only take a bad guy one trip to make a plan, ugh.

I still vacillate.

Sometimes I do think it was a service worker, because I recall that it was a one-day hired man who kidnapped Elizabeth Smart. I think it’s less likely that it was a driver than someone who worked inside NG’s home and familiarized himself with the layout. A driver wouldn't really know if NG lived alone or not, because they don’t go indoors.

On the other hand, it doesn’t seem to me that a service hire would also be the person sending sophisticated ransom notes regarding Bitcoin.

I guess I still think it was a kidnapping, and it’s the classic brains and brawn. Brains formulated the plan and hired the Brawn at the door to carry it out.

My other theory is I have no earthly idea what has happened.

JM speculation.

 

[No it's not]

(Oh wow, I have finally located my old password..Still the same old “NIN”. Aka No it’s not..)

Cheers,
Nin

 

[penguinface]

Can you please lead me to where to find the video of this neighbor? TY

Search this thread for the word “premonition” and you should find one of the two interviews in the comment the “premonition” poster is replying to.

 

[thefragile7393]

Wait a minute, didn't Nanos say previously there was no evidence Nancy was taken over the border and they have no reason to believe she's in Mexico and now the FBI has put Mexican authorities on alert? Are these agencies even communicating because it feels like there's two separate investigations going on.

I also noticed Levin used the singular "kidnapper" and Sheriff Nanos said "individual with a target" in his most recent interview. Are we to surmise this was a lone wolf? It seems like it would take more than one person to pull this off, especially if they smuggled Nancy into Mexico, but I could be wrong. JMO.

I personally think it's just covering their bases. I have never thought personally she's over there, IMO

 

[cait2007]

I’ve been a bit behind so forgive me. I’ve thought this for a bit, regarding the theory that 2 people were involved. If they did in fact enter through the back window/slider, why the heck would a person come around the house to disable the nest camera? Wouldn’t one think to just simply open the door from the inside, break the camera off and then take her out? Whole thing is so sus I’m not sure we’ll ever know. JMO

I said this a few days ago! Makes no sense to me at all. They could’ve removed the camera from inside the doorway and none of it would’ve been on camera! Whether it was one perp or five, it doesn’t make sense for them to get that close to that camera to remove it. Huge mistake IMO, unless the perp did it intentionally for a reason we don’t know…

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

• Othram, a forensic DNA lab in The Woodlands, confirms to Fox 26 they are in talks with all law enforcement working the Guthrie case.

Could a Houston-area lab be the key to solving the Nancy Guthrie disappearance?

Is a Texas lab the key to solving the Nancy Guthrie disappearance? Othram takes tiny, degraded samples of DNA to build a family tree that could eventually lead investigators right to the criminal's front door when other methods have hit a dead end.

www.fox26houston.com

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Sheesh. Seems like it's time for another joint press conference so everyone can get on board.

Agree. It's been a while since there was an official press conference in this case. Interviews with the Sheriff are not the same thing. Time to set the record straight on recent developments. +

 

[LooksSusToMe]

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