• #34,801
Their homes are some of the safest in the country right now. They’re basically getting free security. That’s the way I’d feel if I was living there.

MOO
My thoughts exactly! It's great security for the neighbors.
 
  • #34,802
Yes, it does.
She has an impeccable record and used an empirical methodology.
Well, if you put them side-x-side, what I see that's similar is the hairstyle, parted the same way and the length and color of the hair, as well as the style of the moustache/beard. Aside from that, on the LD, I see the eye shape is smaller and slants differently, eyelids are hidden, the space between eye and brow is shorter, with the nose being narrower, shape of jowls/chin is more rounded, the mouth/lips appear thinner with him having no upper lip showing, the shape of the face is oval vs square, as well as the person's race looks different also. At first glance, there appears a resemblance, but under scrutiny many differences. I don't know how closely these sketch artists are expected to get though. MOO
 
  • #34,803
Feb 18, 2026 #NancyGuthrie
Investigators say they're looking into options for genetic genealogy to help identify the suspect.
 
  • #34,804

i'm sure you guys discussed this at length but it's the first time i'm seeing it...

"Sources told The Times that authorities have no proof the person who authored the ransom note has Guthrie. But they also said that note felt credible because it included details about a specific damaged piece of property and the placement of an accessory in the home that had not been made public."

interesting that LE/media go bananas over a glove, literally flip-flop on forced entry/cameras/et cetera but until tonight, i've never seen this. damaged piece of property? a broken glass/a flipped over chair? what is the meaning of 'the placement of an accessory in the home that has not been made public'? a toothbrush in the toilet? a shoe in the garage?

perhaps this has no meaning, but it stands out to this wascally wabbit...
A smashed/defaced photo of Savannah, perhaps? JMO
 
  • #34,805
February 18, 2026, 8:29 PM EST
By NBC News

''What we know​

  • CROSS-BORDER OUTREACH: There is no evidence that Nancy Guthrie was taken over the U.S.-Mexico border, two officials briefed on the case said. Authorities on both sides of the border have shared information since the start of the investigation, the officials said.
  • ONGOING INVESTIGATION: More than two weeks into the search for Guthrie, 400 investigators continue to work the case, running down thousands of tips and leads, Pima County, Arizona, Sheriff Chris Nanos said. “As long as we have the ability to chase a lead, it’s not cold,” he said.
  • DNA TESTING: There was no match in the FBI's database for DNA from gloves found about 2 miles from Guthrie’s home. Nanos also said partial DNA from the home is being analyzed.
  • MORE SUSPECT DETAILS: Authorities say the man seen in the doorbell camera video is 5 feet, 9 inches to 5 feet, 10 inches tall and that he was carrying an Ozark Trail backpack from Walmart and had a unique gun holster. He also may have been wearing a ring.
  • FAMILY CLEARED: All members of the family have been cleared as potential suspects in the disappearance of Guthrie, who was last seen Jan. 31 after having spent time with her family.''
What evidence proves NG was NOT taken over the border?
 
  • #34,806
Agreed, but I don’t think someone who knew that there was no subscription, like the person I was replying to was claiming the doorcam guy knew, would have been able to guess that Google would help LE get videos from an unsubscribed user, from their backend cloud storage!

JMO
Well, not everyone knows about all that techie stuff. I certainly do not, and my children tease me all the time about my tech ignorance. Gosh, I took a Typing class in high school, so you can guess how ancient I am. lol
 
  • #34,807
i don't trust levin, FWIW...and i'm sorry i missed that part of the discussion. please provide non-TMZ links and then i'll believe it. TIA!
He saw the note. Among others who saw it early are people at KOLD and one other Tucson news station. They haven’t said much publicly. LE hasn’t said much publicly. Levin’s interview with Cuomo on Newsnation was useful. It’s all linked and discussed earlier in the thread but most of the useful disclosure involves Levin, I’m afraid. He got the initial notes a day or two after the two local stations and went public with some details, but not all.

It’s pretty clear from news reports that many in the media and several former FBI people (including Maureen O’Connell) have seen the notes, but they’re being careful about what they reveal.

The Unabomber case was solved when the perp’s writing style was recognised by his brother. Perhaps the notes will be released if there’s no progress. They’ve been described as well structured and well written.

FWIW, I think Levin is being truthful about the contents. He’s dealing directly with the FBI, and is an attorney. His business is Hollywood gossip, and he’s all about attention, but he’s easily smart enough to not lie about the contents of the ransom note. (Edited to add: if he lied about something, I think he’d be called out by others who’ve seen it.)
 
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The heel of the shoe (which looks to me like an air bag type heel) seems to be reflecting the porch light as there's a whitish spot that rotates around the heel in the video, which makes me think it's a glossy black heel. Also the eyelets at times appear black, but that could be fragmentation. Photos are taken from video stills and are unedited other than cropping and adding the black arrows to point at the highlights on heels and white arrow on eyelets. JMO.
 

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Well, on Fox anyway, this case is not headline, first subject news, anymore. They didn't open with the story. None of the shows the last couple of nights were exclusively just NG for the entire hour. This will make my delusional, love sick, SG stalker mad! Might not be a coincidence that a new ransom note was received. We are about due for another Instagram video from SG, imo. If I am correct that the perp is an unhinged stalker with a fantasy fixation on SG, he is going to need to see her soon! He's restless, for sure, by now! JMO MOO
I rarely watch CNN, but many of the hosts have featured this case at the top of their program. Anderson Cooper did a segment on his show earlier this hour.
 
  • #34,810
What evidence proves NG was NOT taken over the border?
Right, reviewing CCTV video from the border looking for NG politely sitting in the passenger seat? I think not, if NG was transported to MX. She could have been hidden in a suitcase, a trunk, a box, in a van, an RV, a utility truck, etc...
 
  • #34,811
I rarely watch CNN, but many of the hosts have featured this case at the top of their program. Anderson Cooper did a segment on his show earlier this hour.
Put yourself in the criminal mind. What would you do - at this point in time - with NG, assuming she is alive? Or in a criminal's mind: would she still be alive? Finally, why stay in Tucson?
 
  • #34,812
Is anyone else feeling like they’re getting whiplash?
Yes. After every statement to the media. It is a complete pissing contest.

Brief paraphrase of the last few weeks:

FBI: We're checking to see if she's in Mexico.
Sheriff: No reason to believe she's in Mexico.

Sheriff: The family has been cleared!
FBI: No comment.

FBI: We're checking gun shops to see find recent purchases.
Sheriff: No they're not.

FBI: The sheriff isn't sharing evidence with us.
Sheriff: Am so.


Feel free to add to the list.
 
  • #34,813
Well, if you put them side-x-side, what I see that's similar is the hairstyle, parted the same way and the length and color of the hair, as well as the style of the moustache/beard. Aside from that, on the LD, I see the eye shape is smaller and slants differently, eyelids are hidden, the space between eye and brow is shorter, with the nose being narrower, shape of jowls/chin is more rounded, the mouth/lips appear thinner with him having no upper lip showing, the shape of the face is oval vs square, as well as the person's race looks different also. At first glance, there appears a resemblance, but under scrutiny many differences. I don't know how closely these sketch artists are expected to get though. MOO
I mean, sketch artists don't necessarily get every single feature perfectly-especially in this case where we see no features. To be fair of course we don't even know if this person is involved.
 
  • #34,814
The silence is deafening, but not necessarily a bad thing. Sure, it can be frustrating for us and sometimes it means a case is growing cold, but I feel like LE's recent end to regular pressers and decreasing lack of public appeals, coupled with SG's general silence and measured (occasional) communications, speak volumes here. I think it might just mean they probably know who did this, or have a really good idea, and are just putting the pieces together.

Hope so anyway.

JMO.
Sometimes silence can be prudent during an abduction. The lifeline to the victim needs to be maintained until..

ALL IMO

-Nin
 
  • #34,815
He saw the note. Among others who saw it early are people at KOLD and one other Tucson news station. They haven’t said much publicly. LE hasn’t said much publicly. Levin’s interview with Cuomo on Newsnation was useful. It’s all linked and discussed earlier in the thread but most of the useful disclosure involves Levin, I’m afraid. He got the initial notes a day or two after the two local stations and went public with some details, but not all.

It’s pretty clear from news reports that many in the media and several former FBI people (including Maureen O’Connell) have seen the notes, but they’re being careful about what they reveal.

The Unabomber case was solved when the perp’s writing style was recognised by his brother. Perhaps the notes will be released if there’s no progress. They’ve been described as well structured and well written.

FWIW, I think Levin is being truthful about the contents. He’s dealing directly with the FBI, and is an attorney. His business is Hollywood gossip, and he’s all about attention, but he’s easily smart enough to not lie about the contents of the ransom note. (Edited to add: if he lied about something, I think he’d be called out by others who’ve seen it.)

Has TMZ specified how these communications are coming in? Are they through a webform vs through email?
 
  • #34,816
What evidence proves NG was NOT taken over the border?
None. See what this retired FBI agent had to say about it:

Pack stressed that Sheriff Nanos is being "accurate and responsible" in stating there is no indication Guthrie was taken into Mexico.

However, Pack underscored an important investigative distinction.

"From an investigative standpoint, the absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence," Pack said.

"Border protocols don’t require a confirmed lead. They require geographic proximity and a missing person. Both boxes are checked here."

 
  • #34,817
NameUser posted that AI picture that i know won't last long here. In looking at that though, I wondered what is in lantana mans left hand? You can see the string/strap of whatever it is hanging down.
 
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  • #34,819
Investigators uncovered DNA evidence that does not belong to Nancy Guthrie during a search of her Arizona home more than two weeks after she was kidnapped, sources told The Post.

The evidence was revealed on Wednesday, following a subsequent search of the Catalina Foothills residence of the 84-year-old mother of “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie with a fine-tooth comb, sources said.

“We believe that we may have some DNA there that may be our suspect,” Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said on “Today” on Wednesday morning.


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WHAT???? was it processed before the glove? When was it collected?
 
  • #34,820
NameUser posted that AI picture that i know won't last long here. In looking at that though, I wondered what is in lantana mans left hand? You can see the string/strap of whatever it is hanging down.
Speculation... could be the mouth light he eventually puts in. I can't see the strap, I'll check again though.

Edited: Yes I can see the strap. Could it be a bag that the bite light is being held in?
 

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