• #35,781
I may be going back to square one but I can't recall - does anyone know if it has been reported that anything of value was missing/stolen from her house that night?

JMO.
I don't believe so. I remember it being stated that things like her phone, wallet, watch were left behind

Jmo
 
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Can someone explain to me how to make a post ? Without it being a reply?
Every post is a reply to the thread, not necessarily to another post.
 
  • #35,783
Can someone explain to me how to make a post ? Without it being a reply?
Scroll down to the bottom underneath where the thread page numbers are and you will see a block to enter text and a "Reply" button to the bottom right of it. Underneath the words "Your post will be publicly visible, please type responsibly."
 
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So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
 
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Consider that:

1. The neighborhood is dark. There are no streetlights. I'm not sure if people have floodlights on motion sensors.
2. There are ~five roads leading into/out of the neighborhood (source: post 35291 on page 1765.)
3. The houses are set back from the road. Cameras mounted on houses may not even pick up the road.
4. Traffic cameras in the neighborhood do not record and retain video. (source: post 25,581 on page 1280.)

So unless the guy either lives or works in the neighborhood, he could easily drive in, abduct NG, and exit without leaving video evidence apart from the camera footage at NG's house.

MOO

I would like to think some day we will have AI drones patrolling neighborhoods or neighborhoods like this where there’s a lot of bush and vegetation.
 
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So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
They are still looking at the glove DNA and I believe they are also still trying to recover additional footage from cameras in NG's home
 
  • #35,788
So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
Looking for Nancy?
 
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So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
They may also still be using the 'sniffer' device looking for her pacemaker
 
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SO crazy. Even though I tend to believe it was a planned kidnapping, these are the type of points that start making me think the other way. Let's be blunt here. It is an 84 year old woman. She would not be too hard to control, imo. We know the perp(s) have a gun. It should be as easy as holding the gun and telling her that they are taking her. They can even tell her that we are gonna be holding you for ransom, please grab any medication that you will need, I mean, it is an 84 year old woman. The fact that it wasn't as simple as that, and there is actual blood at the scene, when again it should be a fairly easy situation to control, makes me start thinking the other way.
The blood drops may not be as sinister as it could be perceived to be.

Lots of people’s skin gets very thin as we age, and we’ve seen NG with coverings and bruising which imo is quite consistent with what can occur from the smallest graze. Add to that the fact that it’s presumed that NG is on blood thinners.
I think she could have very easily sustained a ‘graze’ which started to bleed, maybe she or they were not even initially aware.

I like the idea that they told here they were taking her and to pack a few items of clothes & things. I can understand them not letting her takes phone, Apple Watch etc. Do we know for sure that her Hearing Aid was left behind ? And do we know for sure that she didn’t have any meds with her ?

MOO
 
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So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
I hope that are looking into more than these 7 things
 
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There is a drug- Coreg, a beta blocker used for heart failure and other severe heart issues. It cannot be stopped abruptly. I know- I worked for a personal injury attorney handling medical malpractice. Our client (decedent's son) came to our office and told us his mother was discharged home from a nursing home without the prescription for Coreg- she died and it was determined she died because Coreg was not continued as it should have been. She was off the drug for several days. We got a good settlement on this case. We do not know what cardiac issues Nancy has besides being on a pacemaker and no doubt requiring a blood thinner. I am sure there are other drugs that cannot be stopped abruptly.
There are a couple of categories of medicine I can think of off the top of my head that would be dangerous very quickly with missed doses:

- Meds that do the job of an organ that is non-functional or has been removed (e.g. insulin for T1 diabetes, levothyroxine for someone without a thyroid)

- Meds that cause severe withdrawal symptoms if stopped without tapering (e.g. some drugs can cause seizures if you stop taking them abruptly)
 
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  • #35,794
I may be going back to square one but I can't recall - does anyone know if it has been reported that anything of value was missing/stolen from her house that night?

JMO.
We don't know anything about the inside of NG house, except that her watch was left at the foot of the bed. MOO
 
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So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
Tracing electronic communications
Gun shops
Talking to Mexican authorities
 
  • #35,796
Tracing electronic communications
Gun shops
Talking to Mexican authorities
So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)
8) Tracing electronic communications

Talking to Mexican authorities, just doesn't make sense.
Gun shops that's covered by (6). Someone said 'Nancy', I think the one billion posts kind of suggest, that that's pretty obvious.
 
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So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)
8) Tracing electronic communications

Talking to Mexican authorities, just doesn't make sense.
Gun shops that's covered by (6). Someone said 'Nancy', I think the one billion posts kind of suggest, that that's pretty obvious.

Nearby camera footage 10 p.m. January 11 and 1 a.m. January 12, as well as 11 p.m. January 31 to 4 a.m. February 1. Not just neighbors but surrounding areas. It extends a pretty wide area. The areas of interest extend from Ina Road to La Cholla, then down to River Road and over to Roller Coaster Road.
 
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We don't know anything about the inside of NG house, except that her watch was left at the foot of the bed. MOO
At the foot of the bed? Really? Source please?
 
  • #35,799
The window of opportunity for a quick resolution has closed. Now, it becomes a waiting game for DNA, tips, slipups, or discovery. This would still be a good time to engage the efforts of a professional SAR team, such as the one that exists right there in AZ.

While LE and the FBI have resources to search, these local teams know the terrain, the hiding spots, and access points to the desert, should that be where they took her.

MOO
 
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