• #35,941
I feel like it is going to be a long time to get any answers. My hope is dwindling. I have been so consumed by this case and all of the ups and downs have been mentally exhausting. Feeling discouraged this morning! Someone help revive my hope!!!
I'm hopeful and optimistic. I think she's alive and relatively comfortable. According to HL on TMZ, the most recent letter had graphic details about what would happen if they didn't pay the ransom, which suggests that she's still alive and doesn't indicate that she's in poor health. NG seems smart, sweet, and capable of keeping herself alive in adverse conditions. MOO
 
  • #35,942
20 days later and we are not any closer to knowing what happened to Nancy or where she is.
 
  • #35,943
I'm hopeful and optimistic. I think she's alive and relatively comfortable. According to HL on TMZ, the most recent letter had graphic details about what would happen if they didn't pay the ransom, which suggests that she's still alive and doesn't indicate that she's in poor health. NG seems smart, sweet, and capable of keeping herself alive in adverse conditions. MOO
I hope so, but if you want $$$$, you don’t say that she is deceased.
 
  • #35,944
IMO, like him or not or his tactics or not, he's created TMZ to be on the top news, celebrity or not. And that's why people keep watching IMO
I am so old I remember when tmz was just celeb gossip and it is wild to me how many real news scoops he has broken. I am surprised he never divided it up keep tmz for celeb gossip and then have a half hour a day show about real news.
 
  • #35,945
He did go into detail about the floodlight over the back yard being described in the original ransom note as "destroyed". He was speaking with Chris Cuomo on Newsnation.

It was me who posted the Newsmax piece reporting the location of the white Apple Watch but the post was deleted, because Newsman isn't approved. I notice that no MSM reports it, because (this is a guess) the police wanted it held back.

I think the Newsmax article stating where the watch was found and Harvey's statements that the watch was in a place you wouldn't necessarily expect might have gotten conflated together.

If I am the one that conflated those two things on this forum - I sincerely apologize.
 
  • #35,946
I know the rules and can only use initials, is there a news source I can go to that will say the information? I don't want to get in a time out again or get anyone in any trouble. It is just so hard to read posts and see initials and not know who we are talking about. If there isn't that is fine I will hopefully figure it out somehow. I really hope fbi and others know more than they are putting it because it dragging on this long wouldn't they have already nabbed the person if they had a clue? I guess what I am asking is if they ever know a person is guilty but let them run loose for awhile to trip up and give them more evidence, if so that is risky isn't it? (too much Charlie's Angel's as a child lol)
EXCLUSIVE: Tucson felon confirmed as man detained, questioned and released in connection to Guthrie kidnapping case

Here is a mainstream media article about it. His lawyer has publicly named him and said he was the subject of the raid on Friday, but claims he's innocent.

I thought he was involved but I'm not sure now, since it's been a week since the raid and no arrest. I assume LE is still looking into it though.
 
  • #35,947
IMOO It is mixed DNA from two people so testing takes longer.
I agree. If the house DNA is mixed, it will take extra steps and time to separate.

As we don't know what they got the house DNA from, I'm beginning to think it may have been a syringe accidentally left behind. This would give LE a very good idea that it's a crime scene from the very beginning that Sunday. That item may have yielded dual DNA...Nancy's and whomever filled the syringe. Gloves may have been worn when administering whatever concoction was in it, but may not have been worn when it was being filled. He could have been thinking more about not leaving DNA when using it but completely blanked out on DNA when filling it. Or if someone else gave him a pre-filled syringe and it could be their DNA.

MOO
 
  • #35,948
I know the rules and can only use initials, is there a news source I can go to that will say the information? I don't want to get in a time out again or get anyone in any trouble. It is just so hard to read posts and see initials and not know who we are talking about. If there isn't that is fine I will hopefully figure it out somehow. I really hope fbi and others know more than they are putting it because it dragging on this long wouldn't they have already nabbed the person if they had a clue? I guess what I am asking is if they ever know a person is guilty but let them run loose for awhile to trip up and give them more evidence, if so that is risky isn't it? (too much Charlie's Angel's as a child lol)
MOO Just look up news connected with recent SWAT incident and drug related arrests.
 
  • #35,949
The only reason I found this shoe is that I searched for golfing footware. For some reason, this guy always gave me golfing vibes, like he's bending over to pick up a ball or tee when he grabs the lantana. Vibes mean nothing, but it's just kind of interesting that this shoe happened to pop up.
rbsbm
The pick up motion does give 'golfer vibes', but also that of a dog owner picking up the ball /dog mess, or a baby's dropped items, speculation, imo.
 
  • #35,950
Yeah Ecco isn't that popular of a brand so it would definitely narrow down suspects. I'm not sure about magnets but they make telescoping poles for ball retrieval from water which I suppose could have a magnet attached to pick up other dropped items.
There is another post on here by a former shoe sales person, and he/she has pictures of the probable shoe, and the make up of it. I think they have identified the shoe, according to some podcasts I watch. Unsure overall...
 
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That would be pretty noisy. Why not just unscrew the bulbs?
movies have taught me you can break bulbs without a lot of noise or mess by wrapping them in a towel first. but unscrewing works too.
 
  • #35,953
I like some you tubers, but intimately I’m wanting to hear from the horse's mouth, the FBI!

JMO
the only thing left for YTubers to do or any media for that matter is speculate.
 
  • #35,954
20 days later and we are not any closer to knowing what happened to Nancy or where she is.
Why not proof of something? Was she wearing rings? Necklace?
 
  • #35,955
I feel like it is going to be a long time to get any answers. My hope is dwindling. I have been so consumed by this case and all of the ups and downs have been mentally exhausting. Feeling discouraged this morning! Someone help revive my hope!!!
I wish I could, but I'm feeling exactly the same.

I think the only way our hopes can be revived is by some big, sudden movement indicating a real breakthrough.

That's what happened with me and others in the Idaho 4 case when Kohburger was arrested, seemingly out of the blue.

Brian Entin had said a couple of days ago to watch the next 24 -48 hours. That got me down because that time has now passed without incident. Let's hope he was only off by a bit. Fingers crossed 🤞 ✨
 
  • #35,956
I feel like it is going to be a long time to get any answers. My hope is dwindling. I have been so consumed by this case and all of the ups and downs have been mentally exhausting. Feeling discouraged this morning! Someone help revive my hope!!!
I’m hoping someone is going to call in a tip on the suspect and they’ll be called caught.
Someone knows who he is and who else is involved. Im holding onto hope for a break in this case.
 
  • #35,957
I think the FBI ruled out the lovesick unhinged delusional stalker recently. IMO SG's husband was probably advised not to travel to Tucson in case a stalker would come after him or their children. His arrival after over two weeks suggests that the FBI is not worried that he'll be targeted. MOO, that's just how I interpret him suddenly joining SG.
pretty sure security for him and the children is very tight. I think you have to be worried others could be targeted.
 
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This is a good thought, my eyesight is awful without glasses so I really need to "zoom" in on things ie, get close to them,
That would be pretty noisy. Why not just unscrew the bulbs?
Maybe too high to reach?
 
  • #35,960
So Law Enforcement are looking at the following :

1) Neighbours security camera (requested)
2) Ransom notes (TMZ)
3) DNA evidence (house mixed DNA - labs)
4) Walmart Purchases (requested)
5) NG security camera footage (analyzing)
6) Door to door / business enquires (following up leads)
7) Incident Call Centre (40,000 plus leads)

Have I missed anything?
The Range Rover the FBI confiscated last Friday and is still processing, as I mentioned above.
 

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