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Agree. I don't think the genetic testing on the glove will result in anything tied to the case. Seems the sheriff/FBI have about exhaused leads and have jumped on non-leads. I see the case as three parts: find NG, find the criminal, and find the Bitcoin scammer.
Genetic testing on the random glove??? What a waste! Genetic testing on home DNA, yes. jmo
 
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The family has been ruled out, and the mods said don’t keep talking about them as if they have not, or risk time-out or banning. FWIW.
That is why I am not even using initials or anything and tip toeing. Last time I heard the Sheriff speak he said nobody was ruled out. I always thought that was a weird thing to say since obviously relatives who were out of state would obviously be ruled out lol. Thank you for that btw, new news to me and if true, what a relief.
 
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Was the family ruled out by the FBI, or just the Sheriff?
What exact phrasing was used to clear them?
That was what threw me. I have been very careful not to say names or even use initials or come out and state something I feel. But the poster said all family is cleared, first I have heard of it. That Sheriff is always confusing me on who is cleared and who isn't. Last I heard him talk "nobody has been officially cleared"
 
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Is there anywhere around Tucson that actually has easily diggable soil/earth to hide a body? I've heard that the desert surface is particularly difficult to penetrate.
Asking for a friend? Kidding. I don’t know. Very sad.
 
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Yeah Ecco isn't that popular of a brand so it would definitely narrow down suspects. I'm not sure about magnets but they make telescoping poles for ball retrieval from water which I suppose could have a magnet attached to pick up other dropped items.
Magnets on a telescopic tip are used to pick up ammo/bullet/shotgun cartridges at shooting ranges, bird shoots. Called a “cartridge collector” (solid brass or aluminum not magnetic ). Building trades use for spilled screws/nails.
 
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I still think 2 perps, so glove DNA and house DNA may not match...jmo BUT DNA genetic on home could identify A perp and w investigation, lead to the other one. jmo I expect a long haul on this, but hopeful that they find NG;s remains soon, for the family's sake.
 
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I believe it has been repeatedly documented in this thread that they were ruled out several days ago.
Ahhhhhhhhh that explains it, I was suspended and still couldn't keep up, thank you for that tidbit. Would have been great to read in the good old fashioned msm
 
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That is why I am not even using initials or anything and tip toeing. Last time I heard the Sheriff speak he said nobody was ruled out. I always thought that was a weird thing to say since obviously relatives who were out of state would obviously be ruled out lol. Thank you for that btw, new news to me and if true, what a relief.
I was timed out. Mod are right
 
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✨76% of adults are found within 24 hours, and 86% are found within 2 days.

✨Only 3% of adults will be missing for longer than a week, and less than 1% for longer than a month.

[These figures are published in their "Key Information" and "Policy and Research" reports, which summarize the scale and nature of missing person incidents across the UK.✨ Trying to find similar USA study]
 
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Was the family ruled out by the FBI, or just the Sheriff?
What exact phrasing was used to clear them?

Briana Whitney asked the FBI for a statement after the Sheriff said the siblings and their spouses were cleared. The FBI responded, "The FBI doesn't have anything to add to that."

Based on that statement that seems like they are on board with it.
 
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DBM
 
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Please never do this . Removing a pacemaker (or at least a cardia loop recorder), requires a small incision and a tweezers. Must be done under medical care.
Pacemaker is near the surface, right? No I won't ever try it. I hope nobody does.
 
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Not all, leadless ones are dropped directly into the heart. Ones with leads also have leads that are risky to remove. IMO impossible to remove without an experienced EP and the right equipment / training for her type.
 
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✨76% of adults are found within 24 hours, and 86% are found within 2 days.

✨Only 3% of adults will be missing for longer than a week, and less than 1% for longer than a month.

[These figures are published in their "Key Information" and "Policy and Research" reports, which summarize the scale and nature of missing person incidents across the UK.✨ Trying to find similar USA study]
In the United States, a vast majority of missing adults are found very quickly, with roughly
70% to 76% located within the first 24 to 72 hours. Most cases are resolved within a week (85%), and less than 1% remain missing for longer than a month. The first 72 hours are critical, as the likelihood of finding the person decreases significantly after this window.
Key statistics and facts regarding missing adults in the U.S.:
  • Rapid Resolution: Approximately 90% or more of all missing person cases are resolved within one month.
  • Initial Hours: Roughly 76% of adults are found within 24 hours, and 86% are found within 2 days.
  • Long-term Cases: Only about 3% of adults remain missing for longer than a week.
  • The 72-Hour Rule: While often quoted, experts state there is no mandatory 24-hour waiting period to report a missing person; police can and should begin investigating immediately.
 
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except the sherriff did rule out family
Thank you I was absent for several days and still never got caught up. Where was tmz on that one, would have been nice to know this. I am still sticking with someone known to her in SOME way. Maybe some teens she befriended or some workers, they will trip up.
 
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Asking for a friend? Kidding. I don’t know. Very sad.
Oh no! I've been rumbled!

Was just wondering if, geologically speaking, there are areas around Tucson with looser earth.
 
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Is there anywhere around Tucson that actually has easily diggable soil/earth to hide a body? I've heard that the desert surface is particularly difficult to penetrate.
There are thousands of square miles of brushy vegetation surrounding Tucson. Much of it is public land and it would require tons of manpower to search. There is no need to bury a body is an area that is unihabitated and covered with brush.

It's not unusual to find badly decayed bodies of migrants in these areas, Most have died of natural causes. This also happens in South Texas and we don't even have public lands. Bodies are found on private property here. Nobody is buried and the soil in the coastal plains is diggable.

Here's a random screen shot from Interstate 19.
Screenshot Capture - 2026-02-20 - 14-09-04.webp
 
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FBI sources said this week that kidnapped Nancy Guthrie may be in Mexico, while the sheriff of Pima County, Arizona, claimed his team’s evidence puts her in Tucson.

It’s just one of many rifts between the local cops and the feds, which critics say is a major reason why little progress has been made in finding “Today” show co-host Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mom, who was abducted from her home on Feb. 1.

“[The FBI] should have taken the case over within the first few days. We have been treating this as a kidnapping and the FBI is the premier agency to deal with kidnappings,” Aaron Cross, president of the Pima County Deputies Association, told The Post earlier this week.

More at Why Nancy Guthrie hasn’t been found — from cops’ early errors to DNA blunder
 
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Magnets on a telescopic tip are used to pick up ammo/bullet/shotgun cartridges at shooting ranges, bird shoots. Called a “cartridge collector” (solid brass or aluminum not magnetic ). Building trades use for spilled screws/nails.
Ah, very interesting. Thank you.
 

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