AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[britinsussex]

(i.e. the next-door neighbour Gem collector) 25 years ago, before I immigrated to the UK, I lived in East Tennessee. A beautiful piece of very rural property with mountain views and forest behind my home. Perfect place to raise my Arabian horses. I lived on 130 acres in the middle of nowhere. My closest neighbours were a half mile on either side. One November, I had to make the trip to Ohio for a wedding. Much to my surprise, when I returned home, yellow LE tape surrounded my home and property. A man had camped on my property for 4 days. He had been hired to terrorise a man who lived further up the mountain because he owed a substantial amount of drug money supposedly kept in a safe. He beat the poor man, drugged him, and handcuffed him so he couldn't escape. Over the next four days, he again terrorised him and broke both his arms because he wouldn't give the safe combo. There was no safe, money, or drugs! The man began yelling after the thief left and went back to his camp, and the neighbours heard him, found him, and called LE. When I returned home, I was interrogated relentlessly because I was out of town and even had to prove that I had attended a wedding in Ohio. It shook me to the core. The evil spawn who did this had the wrong person! My point is that it is likely the NG wasn't the person the perp wanted. Strange things happen! I hope this is ok to share. If not, I will gladly remove it! jmo

 

[submarine7]

I found a picture that partially shows the trunk area of the Range Rover.

Can anyone else make out what those items are in the back?

It looks to me like it could be a black backpack and some kind of container.

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Felon briefly detained in SWAT raid denies ties to Nancy Guthrie kidnapping: ‘No link whatsoever’

“Mr. Daley has no link whatsoever to Nancy Guthrie and has no information related to her kidnapping. Like the entire Tucson community, both Mr. Daley and his mother are hopeful that Nancy will be r…

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The only thing I can make out are the shoes on the left.

 

[slowpoke]

We have long suspected that the suspect at the front door of Nancy Guthrie’s home on the day that she disappeared was wearing nitrile gloves layered over some other glove.
I think our porch guy may have been wearing nitrile bbq gloves that actually come with a cotton liner. This is an example of a pair that just happened to pop up on Amazon. There are several different brands.View attachment 647452

Ha, I had the same thought a while back.
I said I had watched bbq competitions on tv, and saw them wearing similar gloves as the masked porch guy.
Gmta

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Feb 12, 2026

This. I posted earlier that the gloves resembled ones that Tattoo artists use, they look like black nitrile gloves being worn over thicker gloves, IMO. Mechanics also use them frequently. Just doing a little research, they are not found in that color in many places outside of Home Depot, Menards, or ordering them online. It just seems to me that unless they were seeking those specific gloves out, it maybe something that they had a personal supply of already due to a line of work they are in.

I remember watching those bbq competitions on tv, and a lot of those competitors had gloves...

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[SlimPickens]

I think they are blocking the public from viewing them inspect the vehicle and from seeing inside the vehicle as well. I think they may have been also blocking any view of removal and transfer of item(s) from the car to a LE vehicle.

Possibly, but why not just tow it to the secure location to process it in a controlled lab setting? That's what they typically do. Why the rush to open it onsite? And then hide it under tarps before they did?

The only way I can see that they would open it that quickly is due to exigent circumstances. And there is really only one exigent circumstance in a kidnapping case. Which of course would explain the tarps but not explain that she is still missing.

JMO.

 

[apeXperience]

All, just IMHO. To alleviate the effects of your depressing thoughts, let me please tell you more about him. He was known as “the poor man” before he became a felon. His previous life could be described thus:

He was so badly dressed that even a man accustomed to shabbiness would have been ashamed to be seen in the street in such rags. In that quarter of the town, however, scarcely any shortcoming in dress would have created surprise. Owing to the proximity of the Hay Market, the number of establishments of bad character, the preponderance of the trading and working class population crowded in these streets and alleys in the heart of Tucson, types so various were to be seen in the streets that no figure, however queer, would have caused surprise. But there was such accumulated bitterness and contempt in the young man's heart, that, in spite of all the fastidiousness of youth, he minded his rags least of all in the street. It was a different matter when he met with acquaintances or with former fellow students, whom, indeed, he disliked meeting at any time. And yet when a drunken man who, for some unknown reason, was being taken somewhere in a huge wagon dragged by a heavy dray horse, suddenly shouted at him as he drove past: "Hey there, growing minority hatter" bawling at the top of his voice and pointing at him--the young man stopped suddenly and clutched tremulously at his hat. It was a tall round hat from Zimmerman's, but completely worn out, rusty with age, all torn and bespattered, brimless and bent on one side in a most unseemly fashion. Not shame, however, but quite another feeling akin to terror had overtaken him.

Now that he has been apprehended and released by the news media attention seeking Sheriff, he is famous. He now speaks at paid interviews of his ordeal for fees. Let us wait and see if the fame will make him a better man.

 

[submarine7]

All, just IMHO. To alleviate the effects of your depressing thoughts, let me please tell you more about him. He was known as “the poor man” before he became a felon. His previous life could be described thus:

He was so badly dressed that even a man accustomed to shabbiness would have been ashamed to be seen in the street in such rags. In that quarter of the town, however, scarcely any shortcoming in dress would have created surprise. Owing to the proximity of the Hay Market, the number of establishments of bad character, the preponderance of the trading and working class population crowded in these streets and alleys in the heart of Tucson, types so various were to be seen in the streets that no figure, however queer, would have caused surprise. But there was such accumulated bitterness and contempt in the young man's heart, that, in spite of all the fastidiousness of youth, he minded his rags least of all in the street. It was a different matter when he met with acquaintances or with former fellow students, whom, indeed, he disliked meeting at any time. And yet when a drunken man who, for some unknown reason, was being taken somewhere in a huge wagon dragged by a heavy dray horse, suddenly shouted at him as he drove past: "Hey there, growing minority hatter" bawling at the top of his voice and pointing at him--the young man stopped suddenly and clutched tremulously at his hat. It was a tall round hat from Zimmerman's, but completely worn out, rusty with age, all torn and bespattered, brimless and bent on one side in a most unseemly fashion. Not shame, however, but quite another feeling akin to terror had overtaken him.

Now that he has been apprehended and released by the news media attention seeking Sheriff, he is famous. He now speaks at paid interviews of his ordeal for fees. Let us wait and see if the fame will make him a better man.

What does this mean?

 

[Arkay]

What does this mean?

It’s from Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment.

In that novel, the main character kills his elderly landlady. He is punished for his crime and sent to Siberia.

But I am not certain what @apeXperience is trying to say?

If you @apeXperience are making a comparison between a fictional and a factual case, would you explain? Beyond the obvious factor of killing an elderly woman.

 

[submarine7]

I saw this clip of BE discussing the mixed DNA issue that the Sheriff discussed. BE says it's foreign DNA found inside NG house, belonging to more than one individual, and it doesn't belong to NG or her close circle.

How can they say it's not NGs or .... But they can't separate it to use? Why is this so confusing? What am I missing?

Edit to add: what are they comparing NGs DNA to?

 

[Kemug]

Re NG taking a Uber to her daughter Annie's home, and her son-in-law taking her home later, maybe that is just how they always did it. If that is the case, then please say so, someone.

 

[shonyakay]

In this news report they say LE were acting on a tip. You can see LE open the back of the RR as they raise the tarps.

I think they were concerned at what they may find and did not want the public to see.

Does anyone here know if LE still has the RR in their possession?

 

[apeXperience]

It’s from Dostoyevsky’s Crime and Punishment.

In that novel, the main character kills his elderly landlady. He is punished for his crime and sent to Siberia.

But I am not certain what @apeXperience is trying to say?

If you @apeXperience are making a comparison between a fictional and a factual case, would you explain? Beyond the obvious factor of killing an elderly woman.

@Arkay, I hoped that someone who has read Dostoyevsky would intuit that 1) Nancy Guthrie's case is a first degree murder, 2) committed by someone acquainted to her or her work, 3) who is known by the community ... including law enforcement, and 4) who has been poor ... but somehow "rehabilitated" in the eyes and minds of those ... who love him!

I cannot elaborate further. Sorry. I am just emulating some intuition. Thanks.