AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[connie9030]

I have a question for the sleuthers. Let’s just pretend for a moment that there is NO ransom ( faux or real)

If we look at this from the angle that there is nothing else known other than NG last seen approximate timeline, potential POIs raids , recovered Nest doorbell video, and the immediate family being publicly cleared …. What do you see, believe, or feel? Take away motive… what’s the intent?

I think someone close to or in the family owed a debt to a bad group, gang or drug dealer. They didn't pay up so bad guys targeted someone close to them to get their attention.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2026091312727105732

 

[wibbleflea]

I have a question for the sleuthers. Let’s just pretend for a moment that there is NO ransom ( faux or real)

If we look at this from the angle that there is nothing else known other than NG last seen approximate timeline, potential POIs raids , recovered Nest doorbell video, and the immediate family being publicly cleared …. What do you see, believe, or feel? Take away motive… what’s the intent?

If the ransom note is unrelated, the abduction could be to harm the family. Possibly to hurt SG specifically, but if this is a local criminal who knows AG as the daughter who lives nearby, she could be the target.

It could also be political.

Ignoring your hypothetical scenario, it’s at least somewhat likely that the ransom note is connected (from the perp), and that SG is a likely target (the second note beginning with “Dear Savannah”), but that the demand itself is a long shot and wasn’t the point.

 

[Chainspell]

Michael Ruiz with Fox is corroborating, too.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2026086631560855671

 

[LarryLujack]

In that image without the backpack, it almost looks like he’s looking at the camera, are we thinking this could have been a test run? He could have been watching Nancy during the day to see if there was any sign she’d noticed him on her cameras and called the police? Or he could have been testing a signal jammer the night before?

Don't Nest unpaid plans still alert you if the camera is activated, usually by movement? We have a couple of cameras with no paid plan but we are notified if the camera is activated.

 

[aamillaa]

We only have that one picture on No Bookbag Guy, right? I wonder which camera it came from. You can’t really be sure it’s the front door cam from the background.

Wow. This really opens up a lot.

I hope this wasn’t something that really really shouldn’t have been leaked. However, BE reporting and confirming makes me feel better. He’s so cautious.

MOO

 

[cherryleaf]

Agreed.

It is truly sad and baffling that a case with this much manpower and national attention could still go unsolved for so long... of course I want all unsolved cases to be remedied, but truly shocking and frustrating that one with this much awareness and resources could lose steam so fast

I do truly hope that they have leads or ideas behind the scenes that we're not privy to.

100 percent they do. Now they just have to prove it

 

[maskedwoman]

but it took forever to catch him, I think this case was/is very different especially if LE really thought NG was taken alive, it was of the utmost importance they found her quickly, and having not found her quickly I think even LE must realistically think she isn't alive

I agree that LE probably believes she's no longer alive, but the Kohberger case didn't feel forever to me. He killed 4 people so it was clearly an urgent situation, but his DNA wasn't in the system and he had no criminal record. Thank God for the sheath, but they ended up having quite a bit more that had not come out. And they never announced reducing the resources working the case, so clearly they were making good progress all along. They arrested him 47 days after the murder and that included IGG time. I was shocked how much evidence they had collected in 47 days.

By comparison, NG has been missing 24 days an excruciating amount of time for a kidnap victim if NG is still alive. It took Google 10 days to recover the video off her doorbell camera which was brilliant but took a lot of time. They pulled the other cameras on Feb 6th but nothing from those 17 days later. I'm still surprised they didn't find and pull those when they first processed the house for 20 hours. And that they took so long to ask neighbors for video footage. Too long, I'm afraid.

 

[ab01]

I think someone close to or in the family owed a debt to a bad group, gang or drug dealer. They didn't pay up so bad guys targeted someone close to them to get their attention.

I bet that bad group owns some oceanfront property in Arizona too.

 

[cr1menerd]

if he went there the night before, he could have been potentially stalking her for quite a while. Who knows how many more times he was lurking about and caught on camera that wasn’t saved in the cloud? It makes sense why they wanted footage from the area in the weeks beforehand, perhaps hoping they’d catch him entering or leaving the area. Figuring out the direction he came from. That’s extremely risky though. To go to a scene more than once speaks to preparation and determination to abduct Nancy.

 

[SaraSmile]

Wow!! I wonder how much footage they were able to recover from the Nest cam. Maybe they did get a car from this creep on a different night.

MOO

A car! That would be so great!

JMO

 

[SlimPickens]

In our theory constructs, have we ever considered an over-the-road truck driver with a dedicated east/west I-10 route?

JMO.

 

[Hippiechic]

This is so sad. I can't believe the sheriff didn't come out right away and tell us it wasn't from that day. What a crap show it feels.

 

[Moonchime]

I don't have security cameras. Will someone explain how the intruder could have been caught by the doorbell cam earlier and NG not know it? Thank you!

When the doorbell camera detects movement, it will alert your app on your phone. It's likely that NG was sleeping when the app made its sound.

 

[heli]

You need a subscription just to *receive* notifications? Yikes.

Edited to add that I recognize that NG didn't have an active Nest subscription, but I didn't realize that would preclude her from receiving notifications on a live basis. I just thought it meant she couldn't review footage.

My neighbor has Nest without subscription & she gets notifications. I have ring with subscription. It alerts even for a rabbit.

 

[DizzyB]

Google Nest without a subscription does provide snapshots, correct? Was no-backpack a snapshot or a video?

 

[cr1menerd]

Don't Nest unpaid plans still alert you if the camera is activated, usually by movement? We have a couple of cameras with no paid plan but we are notified if the camera is activated.

They do. But if Nancy was asleep and didn’t see the alert at the time then I don’t think she’d be able to view what caused the alert next time she checked her phone. Just that something triggered it.

 

[tricia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2026084884402352519

If you follow the link to the ABC15 report, you might be able to get a screenshot of the two side by side. The page jumps around too much for me to even attempt to a screenshot.

 

[EyeCandy]

It could have simply been the time of before 12:01 A.m on the date of 1/31 though Could it be he had been lurking around the house for a long long time, the cam caught him before a new day turned. Those pics were put out at the same time by FBI so it's not like they did not have them OR know they were on different dates

This just seems off to me IMHO

 

[britinsussex]

She didn't look in the app when she saw the notification the morning after... I have a Nest doorbell camera and one night a few weeks after I had just installed it it said "person seen" at like 3 or 4 in the morning.. my heart started beating so fast so I looked in the Nest app and it was a deer. Half the time it identifies deer as people I think because of their height. Now when I see a person seen notification from 4am I just assume it was a deer... I always look to make sure, though, but I am younger and tech savvy.

My parents live in an area with deer and bears. Their ring cameras catch this as much as UPS (which once left a note in their mailbox saying they couldn't deliver a package because a bear was in their driveway). My mum is 80, and my father is 87. They have been tech-savvy since the inception of the internet and cell phones. jmo