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It almost seems like they are doing a full walk through of the scene rather than investigating one particular thing
 
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Sometimes where 'hostage' situations occur, the individual takes the 'hostage' to a motel / hotel. I wonder if law enforcement has 'canvassed' local motels / hotels.
 
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It almost seems like they are doing a full walk through of the scene rather than investigating one particular thing
Yes you're right! Could be that LE has identified the path the suspect took that night prior to abduction and are walking through the "approach"
JMO
 
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In order to get the money, I would imagine it can't be an anonymous tip. That would stop someone. PLUS, the money is waaayyyy down the line. Apprehension, Arrest, conviction. Not sure money will be the prime motivator. Calling in AND giving the name of the perp anonymously whether there is money involved or not takes courage and the belief that you must do the right thing. Money aka REWARD would not motivate me. I hope others would feel the same way. JMO
I've called in tips before and wouldn't hesitate to do it again but It's the "up to one million dollars" that may give pause to one with credible info and wants the reward. JMO
 
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I'm considering the possibility that some of the FBI teams are swapping out. A new team could be replacing some of those who have been here for weeks and are getting briefed on the situation/crime scene.

JMO
 
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Hopefully, the 1 million reward has generated information that have brought investigators to NG home. We’re about 24 hours into SG video. IMO


“It applies psychological pressure on any accomplices. Ransom schemes involving multiple people are inherently unstable. The more time passes, the more the financial disparity between holding out and collecting $1 million starts eating at the weakest link," he said. "The message is: your partners are not going to protect you. We will. It preserves moral offramps."
 
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I totally understand your thought process here. The one question I have is, do you think the person (or persons?) knew NG or SG? I ask because I feel Iike it could have been someone who had a run-in with either or both, but not by the way of working at/in NG's house. I don't really have anything to back that up. It's just a gut feeling.
NO i DONT. He feel HE KNOWS HER. I picture a marginalized, renaissance man perhaps. Smart, tender, longing from afar, who has fallen in love with her via TV and THINKS he knows her! Every newscast, segment about the Easter Bunny, whatever etc contains hidden words especially meant for him. He is deep into a fantasy and thinks she IS part of his reality. They are in this life together. Taking her mom was a trophy and designed to get her attention especially since she was absent from TV for several weeks due to throat surgery. He became restless and needed the ultimate FIX. JMO
 
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I’m not sure what to think anymore. I believe this was preplanned, but not sure of the motive. Besides Nancy being removed from her house, it doesn’t sound like a burglary gone wrong, nothing is missing, that we know about. Whoever is involved, they don’t mind seeing the pain the family is suffering. Someone knows who is responsible and they need to make the call to LE. Maybe the perp is no longer alive, due to their own actions. But then again, I think they’re still alive and love the publicity they’re receiving.

I located a post here yesterday where someone had mentioned a burglary had happened on January 11th - just minutes away from Nancy's home.

Having reviewed the crime map in the area - I am now leaning to this being a solo thieve/burglar, possibly two, or a small local group of thieves/burglars.

The crime map shows various incidents that included theft larceny and burglary (commercial and residential - forced and not forced) that occurred in and around Nancy's neighborhood in the days leading up to the crime and in the days after.

The crime map only shows fairly recent incidents so any incidents that happened in the first and mid of January is no longer listed.

The FBI mentioned that they are looking at various video footage including banks.

When a reporter asked if any valuables or Bank/ATM cards were taken LE said they weren't going to be getting into that.
 
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She is not in the house. Do you seriously think no one has checked?
To be fair, there have been cases where a person was deceased inside their home and not found during initial searches. Dennis Day comes to mind, for one example. MOO
 
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Great read about how online rumors have affected the family of that bandmate.

“A 6-year-old boy in Arizona spent his first night away from his parents this month. Not because he was at a sleepover, or away at a camp. It was because people had descended on his parents’ suburban Tucson street, thinking that his father might be the man who had abducted Nancy Guthrie.

The boy’s father, Dominic Evans, a 48-year-old elementary-school teacher, plays drums in a band with one of Ms. Guthrie’s sons-in-law. For some people, that, coupled with Mr. Evans’s 1999 arrest for drunkenly swiping a calculator and watch while out at a bar, was enough.

He became their prime suspect.”

With the violence in the world, there is never a good or perfect way to handle things. On one hand, there is a dire need to find an 84 year old who was abducted and then on the other side there is a child who also becomes a victim or at the very least fearful of law enforcement. I wish we were living in a world of kindness and not so divisive.
 
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Banned totally, or banned in the courts? Mostly not allowed to be used in the US either.
Banned totally. Many European countries have very stringent privacy laws.
 
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To be fair, there have been cases where a person was deceased inside their home and not found during initial searches. Dennis Day comes to mind, for one example. MOO
Sure… but it’s been three weeks. It would be unmistakable, at this point, that something was dead in there.
 
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It almost looks like they are pacing out distance/steps. Using phone camera from that corner of the house towards street?

Perhaps they received a photo (tip) and they are pacing it themselves? IMO
 
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