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Maybe NG’s family if something significant has been discovered and/or will be announced soon…..
MOO
I wonder whether NG's family might be collecting some of her personal items from the house.

Of course, I hope that it's something bigger than that, or that they might be doing that preparatory to a big announcement...

JMO
 
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One person we don't see is the sheriff.
Perhaps at the Guthrie family request, or he just realizes his part in the case is mostly over. I hope he has learned from this experience, as he has not had to deal with this kind of case before, and I think it would throw any one of us off, trying to figure where to start, much less how to coordinate such a huge scene. I felt he was like Barney Fife at the start, but he's had a tough time, so I try to give him some grace now. Honestly, how many of us could have handled such a huge and horrible thing?
 
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IMHO, I believe the motive or WHY is anger and revenge. An ex of SG, ex-boyfriend or ex-BFF (male or female), ex-hubby, someone with a grudge that they have been carrying around for a long, long time.

I also believe the perp targeted SG's mom because they knew she was close to her mom and wanted to hurt her but couldn't do it directly to her without being identified or found out. (indirectly hurting her)

I believe it is a stalker but not in the sense of a stranger, someone who knows SG and knows NG. Perhaps an old friend from grammar school or high school. Someone who knows the layout of the house, because they have been there before, but not in a long, long time. (think of the comfort the perp had as he approached the front door, as if he had been there before)

In the case of an ex-boyfriend, I think the term that is used is femicide. "With femicide, the main risk factors relate to the aggressor, type of relationship and motive."

As the article below states "the aggressor is typically a known person, mostly a partner or ex-partner with whom the victim shared an abusive relationship characterized by continuous physical and/or psychological aggressions and death threats. The motive is usually represented by extreme jealousy due to an imaginary or real assumption that the victim is dating some other man, which frequently leads to so-called “honor” killing, or by a sense of ownership leading the aggressor to refuse the advocated end of the relationship. In this scenario, as explained by Garcia-Vergara et al. [9], the lethal act is justified by the distorted conceptions of the aggressor about authority, possessiveness, and the subordinate position of women, which result in the perception of a loss of control of the partner through separation or divorce."

"A related risk factor for femicide, thoroughly analyzed by McFarlane et al. [15] and to which separated/divorced women are mostly exposed, is stalking behavior, described as the act of the perpetrator following or spying on the victim or trying to keep in touch with her against her will."
I'm guessing everyone has had a least one bad relationship/bad breakup in their past.

So, who in SG's past FITS this description?

THIS ATTACHED ARTICLE IS VERY GRAPHIC *****GRAPHIC WARNING*****

Following your post..How about EX colleague? Make it a murder for hire thing. Ex colleague of SG. Possibly passed over and SG gets the fame. jmo
 
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DBM
 
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Following your post..How about EX colleague? Make it a murder for hire thing. Ex colleague of SG. Possibly passed over and SG gets the fame. jmo
How about a tangential collegue who is also a stalker? JMO.
 
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This is the interview by BE of Carlos' attorney. One thing I found interesting is that when BE is trying to get at why LE might have targeted Carlos, the attorney says more than once that he's not sure if Carlos has ever even been on that street, or similar verbiage. That's sort of stunning to me. Wouldn't you find out definitively if he's ever had any deliveries on that street or otherwise been there? Surely, you could at least say "he's never been on the street, or at least hasn't had any deliveries there in the last few months. He can't ever recollect having been there in his life." Etc.

(Apparently, LE didn't tell Carlos why he was targeted and the affidavit which served as the basis for the search warrant is sealed.)

 
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Has it ever been mentioned if NG ever leased out her Casita?
 
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This is the interview by BE of Carlos' attorney. One thing I found interesting is that when BE is trying to get at why LE might have targeted Carlos, the attorney says more than once that he's not sure if Carlos has ever even been on that street, or similar verbiage. That's sort of stunning to me. Wouldn't you find out definitively if he's ever had any deliveries on that street or otherwise been there? Surely, you could at least say "he's never been on the street, or at least hasn't had any deliveries there in the last few months. He can't ever recollect having been there in his life." Etc.

(Apparently, LE didn't tell Carlos why he was targeted and the affidavit which served as the basis for the search warrant is sealed.)

I thought the same thing. That is such an easy fact to check. There were a few things that were suspicious in that interview.
 
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It looks like a clear plastic bag with soda bottles for recycling in it to me.jmo
Amazing how so many people see so many things in this picture. I have no idea what i'm looking at except a little rug 😅
 
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I wonder whether NG's family might be collecting some of her personal items from the house.

Of course, I hope that it's something bigger than that, or that they might be doing that preparatory to a big announcement...

JMO
Other than AG's initial visit to the house when she discovered NG missing, do we know if the family members spent much time with the investigators at the house, reviewing to see what, if anything, was missing, possibly taken along with Nancy? Could the occupants of the suv that pulled into the garage be family, asked to see if they can identify any missing items? Just my thoughts.
 
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I hope this is ok to ask. Is the black vehicle an LE SUV or possibly a Hearse?

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This is where I'm landing these days. I find it plausible that she happened to see drugs (or something else illegal) in a handyman's car and the big boss ordered him to take care of all "loose ends," which in their mind would include NG. The sad part is she probably didn't even realize that she saw or heard was significant. JMO.
With all due respect, this sounds like a bad 80s movie plot. A true "big boss" could have had his guy slip in a window and make it look like she slipped getting out of the bathtub. Or fell back and cracked her head open while getting some laundry out of the dryer. If someone just needed her dead, there would be no need for the bad theatre optics of kidnapping.
 
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How about a tangential collegue who is also a stalker? JMO.
Oh a woman after my own heart. I have been carrying my stalker theory alone for soooo long. I can't give it up now! It's my stalker with an NBC twist! Maybe my stalker was a page OR AN INTERN at NBC ! jmo
 
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