AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[buffalogal]

We need to get back to basics thinking here. List 5 reasons someone would take a body with them?
1. I'll start embarrassment over sexual fantasy, evidence being found.

They want to inflict the most pain possible. They had no intention of returning her and they not only wanted to be sure her family knew she hadn't just wandered off into the desert, but that she had also been injured so they will spend the rest of their lives speculating and anguishing over what happened.

I think it was a well planned abduction, but I don't believe they (the kidnappers) ever sent any ransom note, because the point wasn't to collect a ransom, it was to send a message. To who, and why is a task for LE.

 

[aamillaa]

Sharing for this beautiful family photo

https://twitter.com/x/status/2027044679783448792

 

[wibbleflea]

Not sure if approved source or this has been talked about, but if it is related, then there might be a clue here in that the vehicle was a grey malibu or something like that.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2026791367901430074

Sheriff now saying it’s not related. Still some uncertainty, I think.

 

[DizzyB]

I'm with you! These disgruntled employees have taken advantage of this opportunity to openly air their grievances re: Sheriff Nanos. There is a time and a place, and it's not now and via the media!

I think it’s part of what is keeping the case in the news. Not much to report, and this is creating more for everyone to consume. Between the disgruntled employees and the talking heads, it’s keeping Nancy’s story out there.

 

[Katrinepa]

In the image without the backpack, and in the video, the subject is wearing black what appears to be nitrile gloves.

Gardeners commonly wear nitrile-coated gloves because they offer a superior balance of protection, dexterity, and grip.

Many people bought them during Covid, so will probably still have some around.

 

[buffalogal]

In the image without the backpack, and in the video, the subject is wearing black what appears to be nitrile gloves.

Gardeners commonly wear nitrile-coated gloves because they offer a superior balance of protection, dexterity, and grip.

So do mechanics, health care workers, tattoo artists, and as we have seen, law enforcement.

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

I think there are a lot of presumptions based on personal bias. We've had opinions on driving at night, hearing, taking uber to family's house, opening front doors and other patterns a person may do.

Many are basing this in their own personal bias, but everyone is so different. I would love to talk to her immediate family and get a vibe check on these possibilities, surely they would know better.

But, yeah, I do believe she would answer the door even at night in certain circumstances, and if Latanas man knew her, or things about her or her family, he could possibly yell out a convincing ruse to lure her to the door (with the doorbell cam down), startled at night (it is also consistent w/ the only piece of video we have and the masked man's behavior on it IMO). I personally know other elderly people that would come to the front door at night under such pretenses. It's very conceivable to me.

This this this. I’d stopped using WS in the past and again during this case as much because the posts saying ‘something couldn’t be possible because THEY wouldn’t do it’ or ‘something probably happened because they’d experienced it’ were bothering me. I work in healthcare, not LE/crime, but I imagine it is just as important to take out personal bias and think outside of oneself in both fields.

 

[penguinface]

Since we don't know how Nancy's doorbell nest camera was disconnected at 1:47 a.m. we can only speculate.

When the Nest camera is disconnected from a power source it will still stay connected to WiFi provided it's internal battery is charged. It will maintain it's Internet connection to stream and record until the battery is depleted.

While the camera stays connected to WiFi it will only record event-based video when running on battery.

If the Wifi router loses power but the camera still has battery the camera will appear "offline" in the app but can locally store up to one hour of recorded events to its internal memory. It will then upload these clips to the cloud once the WiFi connection is restored. From my understanding the physical camera is not needed to achieve this as this can be utilized through the app.

I don’t think NG’s Nest camera was connected to a power source, otherwise we’d see a cable sticking out of the wall underneath the bracket by the door (or at least a drill hole big enough for a USB cable where one would be, if the perp would have pulled the wire out.)
I think it’s more likely it was just run from the battery and charged up indoors (or outside using a power bank) when the battery charge started getting low.

JMO

 

[ilgirl]

I think someone offered him a driveway to operate from, wonder if they allow his van? JMO
Big lots, plenty of parking.

I’m sure the neighbors want the perp caught. They probably like some media there, signals that the case is not cold.

Maybe neighbors will charge media for parking? Make $ Just kidding! LOL

JMO

Brian did mention in last night‘s message that he paid for a spot on the neighbor’s lawn in a former case. He said he wasn’t sure if that would be the case here, but it has been done before. I don’t know whether he will be paying someone now. JMO

 

[MadeinSweden]

I have seen the theory of this being connected to SG, as in a stalker or a fan, and think it is an intersting theory. I don't know much about her, but did she grow up in this town? Could it have been an old boyfriend, classmate or colleague that was obsessed with her having a personal connection to her from the past? A local who knew about her mother, where she lived etc.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

It’s a parking ban, not a media ban.

I think it’s aimed at the media.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I don’t think NG’s Nest camera was connected to a power source, otherwise we’d see a cable sticking out of the wall underneath the bracket by the door (or at least a drill hole big enough for a USB cable where one would be, if the perp would have pulled the wire out.)
I think it’s more likely it was just run from the battery and charged up indoors (or outside using a power bank) when the battery charge started getting low.

JMO

Yes, I did read somewhere that it was not hard wired. JMO

 

[TIGER0822]

Ah!! Thank you. That is correct.

The reward is upto $1 million. My guess it is tiered .

 

[Katrinepa]

I think it’s part of what is keeping the case in the news. Not much to report, and this is creating more for everyone to consume. Between the disgruntled employees and the talking heads, it’s keeping Nancy’s story out there.

Their complaining has no value, as it has nothing to do with Nancy, or what has happened to Nancy. If disgruntled employees have problems with others they work with, I'm sure there is a hierarchy they can and should complain to. Unless their complaints are relevant to the case, they should keep their bickering to themselves. Gossip is of no help to anyone, and the press should keep their reporting on facts. MOO

 

[Nikynoo]

Once she was injured, perhaps badly, the whole game changed.

I agree with this scenario. At the moment, I am not 100% convinced it was a kidnapping scenario, but I do think something went wrong when he/they were carrying out whatever it was they were doing.

I also meant to comment on one of your earlier posts (about porch mans route to front door). Now that I have seen additional pictures of the drive and the back/side gate, I agree.

Another alternative I have is that it was someone within walking distance of Nancy's home, and there was no car brought to the scene. I know that Nancys car was taken away as evidence. Is it possible that her car was used and returned? I know this might sound far fetched, but when my parents were burgled (in Mass back in the early 80s), my mums car was used to transport the goods and returned afterwards (even parked up in the same place in the garage).

PS - loving your posts @OldCop !

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Sheriff now saying it’s not related. Still some uncertainty, I think.

Honestly don't think they people who took her would let her scream out the window.

 

[wibbleflea]

Another alternative I have is that it was someone within walking distance of Nancy's home, and there was no car brought to the scene. I know that Nancys car was taken away as evidence. Is it possible that her car was used and returned? I know this might sound far fetched, but when my parents were burgled (in Mass back in the early 80s), my mums car was used to transport the goods and returned afterwards (even parked up in the same place in the garage).

Wow!

In this case, there’d probably a record of the garage door opening and closing, though I’m not sure if we have details on how that’s recorded. (The 9:48 and 9:50 pm times were said by the sheriff in a press conference to be approximate, and he emphasised that a few times.)

 

[rebel123]

The individual could be someone who is struggling financially, their business hit the 'buffers', i.e. import tariffs etc. Whose home might be heading for 'foreclosure' etc. We know that most people who 'struggle financially' don't turn to crime. But some might think it an easy solution. What might seem on the surface an easy solution but turns out to be a 'total nightmare'.

 

[Katrinepa]

The reward is upto $1 million. My guess it is tiered .

Yes, depending on what kind of information or physical evidence they may receive, and how valuable. Watched a podcast today, with two retired Homicide LE, and one said that a reported missing person's residence should be treated as a Homicide scene immediately, until/unless the investigation proves otherwise. One also said that offering a large amount for ransom is the best approach. He heard that someone connected with LE(local or FBI??) told the Guthrie family not to offer the million to begin with. Both these experienced detectives are not happy with how the case was handled at the beginning. Unfortunate, if their perspective is correct. MOO

 

[MassGuy]

If so, this has to be someone who isn’t normally following crime cases. That was SUCH a huge story with BK, you’d think anyone following that would make sure to be cautious of that. (I mean, as simple as leaving their phone on at home)
MOO

The vast majority of people have no idea about the intricacies of that case, especially the phone stuff.