Amen, @girlhasnoname. You said succinctly what I didn't. But he had a lawyer allowing or advising him to do this. Not done in ignorance and certainly not done considering anyone else but himself.I also agree with some of your sentiment @Napoli, but dude (LD)...read the room. Maybe hold off until this poor woman's fate is revealed. Damn
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Don't mean to be sexist, but I think many mechanically minded men could disconnect it.
I believe they are closer than we think as well. They might be putting the Sheriff N up there to keep eyes off the what is really going on. The widely televised, and perhaps staged (IMO) exit of the Guthrie family from Nancy's home, the changing of FBI personnel from Tucson/Phoenix, the new RING camera footage.
Hope so. Knock wood.
Once CP was released, he spoke out. Nobody seemed to have many lingering doubts, and nobody faulted him for declaring his innocence. LD made bad choices in life and that is why he is being scrutinized so heavily. That's on him and he should have considered his reputation long ago. His mom is innocent and has clearly dealt with his issues for many years. Out of touch but not in a great place to be.
But she says "several days ago", not yesterday, and later claims it was a day after it was reported that the images from the doorbell camera were taken on separate days. So presumably some time in the last week.
Yes, I have thought of all of this, and it does definitely give reason for hope.
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Maybe all of the above. JMO
"Hundreds of thousands of vehicles" - seems a bit much or is that just me..?
I think there are three people involved, one driver and two people went inside the house. I don’t think one person alone could have carried her out and into the car. MOO
That we know of yet.
Okay, @Napoli. Team of 2? Inside guy and getaway driver. If this is a preplanned kidnapping, you have to figure out how you are going to remove the target from the scene. If it is a 1 person job, you have to be parked very close by. You can’t be parading a mobility impaired 84 year old through the streets at 2:00 am. You can’t park on the street where your vehicle would stick out like a sore thumb. You can’t park in Nancy’s yard or a neighbor’s yard because your vehicle would be caught on camera.
So what’s a kidnapper to do? You have an accomplice. You both have walkie talkies. The plan is the inside guy enters the house from the side slider or rear door, overtakes the victim, binds her hands, duct tapes her mouth, gets her ready to be taken. The accomplice parks nearby, but not in a yard or on the street. He gets a call on his walkie talkie that the inside guy is ready for pickup with the target. The accomplice swings into the circular drive for a 2 minute pickup from his parking area. Inside guy walks the victim down from the side or back. In and out in 3 minutes.
Where does the accomplice parks so he won’t be noticed? Small businesses and malls often have nighttime security and/or cameras. How about a nearby hotel? People in and out all hours of the night. Not much security except for maybe a drive by every hour or so. They have cameras, but were they all checked? Pull in, shut off your lights and engine, and wait for the call on your walkie talkie. In 5 minutes you are at the victim’s home.
The problem with the original plan was that something went wrong in the house. Nancy put up a much bigger fight than was expected. She got hurt. They had to abort the original exit plan. She had to be carried out and they would use the front door.
1 night, 1 trip, 2 kidnappers.
Whatcha think?
I get the feeling the car video is going to be similar to the black glove found miles away. Unrelated and a drain on resources.
I can see 2 perps being possible, but throwing in a 3rd makes me think of over doing it. It's hard to keep a secret this big, 2 can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Another famous quote, but I wonder if it could be a real possibility here, especially if Nancy passed during or shortly after the abduction.
Yes, the Pinal County heli did go to the Saguaro National Park on Sunday but stayed around TANQUE VERDE, which is still in Pima county. They flew there from Coolidge with direct heading to TANQUE VERDE. Pima county could have done that themselves. The only 2 legs, that would fit another agency, county as AB mentions, to be involved are those two legs. One flying from Coolidge (very close to MM230 by the way!!) to ARIVACA, which again is app 11 miles N of the Mexican border. They STAYED for app 2 hrs in that area before flying back (2nd leg) SE around Tucson (TANQUE VERDE) and traversing the PIMA COUNTY/PINAL COUNTY corridor back to Coolidge Municipal.
There were two unsolved murders in February both male victims. One in a homeless encampment and another about 3 miles from Nancy's home.I can see 2 perps being possible, but throwing in a 3rd makes me think of over doing it. It's hard to keep a secret this big, 2 can keep a secret if one of them is dead. Another famous quote, but I wonder if it could be a real possibility here, especially if Nancy passed during or shortly after the abduction.
The main perp would have no reason to keep the 2nd one around if they're not holding her or collecting $6M and riding off into the sunset. Sadly I don't believe he (they) ever planned for Nancy to return to her family.
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