AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #201
The criminal mind never ceases to amaze me- If I steal $300 from you by taking you to an ATM, I maybe don't even do any jail time if I get caught. If I kill you afterward to hide that relatively minor crime I go to jail for life. And yet... I never read about a case where someone forced someone to go to an ATM and withdraw funds, then drop them off at Taco Bell...
I just wrote something similar. I guess that is our rational minds thinking through the situation. This woman probably would just give them $300 without batting an eye, too.

JMO.
 
  • #202
  • #203
I just wrote something similar. I guess that is our rational minds thinking through the situation. This woman probably would just give them $300 without batting an eye, too.

JMO.
Seriously- and drop me off and I'll make you lunch. Most ATM's will only let you take out ~$300 a day.
 
  • #204
This is what I am wondering myself.
Family did not see anything in the house that would alert them to a crime, other that Nancy was not there.

She was described as "sharp as a tack", with no cognitive issues. But a sudden neurological event could happen, that could cause confusion or paranoia or whatever causing her to leave the house. We know she had difficulty walking, but who knows, a state of panic or dissociation might give her some weird strength to leave.

Yet, police immediately state a crime occurred, from the evidence in the house...or property outside.
A neighbor also reported the front door was left open. Wouldn't the family think that was suspicious?
 
  • #205
In that case, I'm noting it was her church friends who noticed her missing at church, not a driver who noticed her missing when picked up to go to church (if she does indeed have someone who drives her).

jmo
I think it’s likely that she used to be picked up - MOO since there’s no mention of her having a car.

I’d gather the person who went to pick her up received no answer and it was only when they arrived at church and spoke to other friends alarm bells started to ring and a friend contacted the family.

I’m hoping for good news but I can’t see it at this stage - I hope she is found soon.
 
  • #206
I think it’s likely that she used to be picked up - MOO since there’s no mention of her having a car.

I’d gather the person who went to pick her up received no answer and it was only when they arrived at church and spoke to other friends alarm bells started to ring and a friend contacted the family.

I’m hoping for good news but I can’t see it at this stage - I hope she is found soon.
Yeah, I see next to no way this one has a happy ending. Their best bet for that was I’d she wandered off, which just doesn’t seem possible.
 
  • #207
As LE gets a chance to review video from surrounding homes and businesses, MOO we are going to see a picture of something by the end of the day
 
  • #208
As LE gets a chance to review video from surrounding homes and businesses, MOO we are going to see a picture of something by the end of the day
If we don’t, then I think there’s a pretty good bet they don’t need any help.

I’m fully expecting something to break in the next 24 hours, and likely sooner.
 
  • #209
I just looked through Savannah's Instagram posts to see if she was recently in Arizona and she was back at Christmas time for sure. I wonder where her surgery was and where she recovered at?

Her mom sounds very with it in this video and if mobility is the only issue she has, it seems keeping her phone with her or on her would be key in case she fell, or something happened when she was moving about her house. I am curious if she had her neighbors numbers in her phone for an emergency? I understand she had outside help come in for the house, but did she have someone to call if she needed someone quickly? I am curious how close the closest family member lives. Most of us able bodied people have a couple people we could call that would get to us in minutes if we had an emergency. I would think it would be even more important for someone with mobility issues who lived alone to have someone that was within a few houses of them just in case they needed something (not 911 like emergency, but just even simple things that could go wrong).

Coming home later at night on Saturday, I doubt she would answer the door if someone knocked after that point. It's dark and late and I know I wouldn't answer. So did someone break in or was someone already in the house? Did this incident happen Sunday morning? I think maybe it's more likely to answer the door in the daylight on Sunday morning. Did she usually get a ride to church? If so, did she have the door open waiting for her ride to get there?
 
  • #210

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said during a Monday morning press conference that Nancy Guthrie’s home is now a crime scene. “We know she didn’t just walk out of there,” Nanos said, adding,
“She couldn't walk 50 yards by herself."

Rbm.

Sad !!!!

If there was hired help to maintain the home and yard LE should start there ... with what they may have seen, and at least alibi them first ?
Someone who knew her habits and that she lived alone.
LE declaring a crime scene sounds like evidence of a struggle, and maybe more that they're not revealing ?
Hoping for good news , but it sounds like Nancy was a homebody and of a sharp enough mind that she'd let her daughter and others know if she planned to leave w/someone.
Omo.
 
  • #211
I think it’s likely that she used to be picked up - MOO since there’s no mention of her having a car.

I’d gather the person who went to pick her up received no answer and it was only when they arrived at church and spoke to other friends alarm bells started to ring and a friend contacted the family.

I’m hoping for good news but I can’t see it at this stage - I hope she is found soon.
But if what the neighbor reportedly said about the door being open, then if someone picked her up, they would go to the door and see it was open. Unless they don't go to that door when picking her up and just didn't see this door open. IMO
 
  • #212
It sounds like a dire situation to me. You always have hope; however, leaving everything, including her medicine and her walker behind doesn't sound like someone willingly left.

Like another poster said, the only reason that I could see her being taken from the home would be to get cash from her account. If this happened, why hurt her? She is not going to be able to identify the perps. Take her back home and maybe take her phone. So, she can't call someone right away. Don't kill her.

I guess that's a rational way to look at it. I also wouldn't rob someone...

JMO.
Do we know if she had her bank cards with her?
 
  • #213
I would think that they are questioning the employees, household help and gardeners, in particular their relatives and acquaintances.
 
  • #214
It could have been that there was blood that wasn't obvious. Might the detectives have sprayed Luminol around to pick up on possible blood? Would they need other clues (such as drag marks) to trigger their doing so?

JMO
This makes me think of other cases where they've found blood evidence from Luminol that they deemed enough that it isn't compatible with the victim having lived (that is a clunky sentence, but my brain isn't working right now). They haven't said that, so maybe there was enough blood evidence to be worried, but later determined not enough for the victim to be pronounced deceased.
 
  • #215
One of the networks is showing her street and made a good point that the way the homes are set back and mostly screened from the street it may make it difficult for security cameras to pick up the street traffic. Hopefully there is a community entrance that has security cams.
 
  • #216
She is a "young" 84 year old, and obviously beloved. Seems like a lovely lady.

I'm leaning toward an insider in her life rather than a stranger. I'm thinking whomever dropped her off or was scheduled to pick her up for church - either that person or someone connected to that person??

But, I don't know - just brainstorming.

jmopinion
 
  • #217
I wonder if she uses any rideshare types of transportation to get to places like church?

The door being left open is not a good sign. Has it been confirmed whether she had pets? Just wondering how she managed, particularly a dog, if she has mobility issues, and whether any pets were outside due to the open door? Not that it matters, I was just wondering.

She clearly left in a hurry. Whatever the evidence is, it must not be anything that one would immediately notice and think foul play was involved (like blood or broken glass, etc.). Otherwise, her family would have immediately called 911 rather than searching for her first. IMO.
 
  • #218
If we don’t, then I think there’s a pretty good bet they don’t need any help.

I’m fully expecting something to break in the next 24 hours, and likely sooner.
I don't know if you have a good nose for these things or if you are very good at evaluating the data available (or both?), but I know your expectations are frequently "accurate." I hope that's the case again. At least with regard to a break in the case.
 
  • #219
If we don’t, then I think there’s a pretty good bet they don’t need any help.

I’m fully expecting something to break in the next 24 hours, and likely sooner.
I kind of think that police already know if money was withdrawn from her bank account through an ATM. Of course, they aren't going to say because I also believe that they are piecing it all together. I just hope that the perpetrators haven't left the area. Surely, they've been caught on video some place even though her home was secluded.

I hope that there are cameras both inside and outside of the home. Surely, her kids are smart enough to now that this is so important in today's world.

It will be very sad if it turns out to be the hired help or friends of hired help. I'm just throwing this out there because her home is secluded, and she probably has all sorts of help for her house, inside and outside, and her pool. All would know that she is living there by herself.

JMO.
 
  • #220
If I dropped someone off at night that had limited mobility, I would walk them to the door and make sure they got inside. Not sure if that has been mentioned or not, but I can't imagine dropping off someone that has trouble walking 50 feet and just driving away. The house is set back quite a distance from the road too.
 

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