AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #301
Has anyone mentioned where Nancy was on 01/31/26 before returning home at about 9;30 PM?

Sometimes a crime victim will cross paths with a perpetrator when out to dinner, etc.... And that person
follows them home. A perpetrator may have overheard a conversation that made Nancy vulnerable.
 
  • #302
Yup, thought of that one too. Roberta Martin, murdered by a neighbor in his early 20's. He had committed sexual assault, which was likely the reason for moving the body.

That's a good example of why a relative stranger would do something like that (remove a person or body from the scene).

I still think it's closer to home than that (someone associate with her in some way, or someone associated with them). But it's good to keep in mind.
Yes, that's the case. Thank you for remembering her name. In that case, the perp probably moved the body because it was utterly shameful that he SA her before the murder and he wanted to hide that.

In this case, someone felt shame, imo, for whatever the motive or situation was.

I do hope she was taken alive and will be found alive, but thinking through all scenarios.

jmopinion
 
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She lives in a million dollar home.

Her wallet was left behind at the scene.

This crime is going to end up being about way more than some rando wanting to steal 300 bucks out of an ATM.

JMO.
 
  • #305
I think it was simply her personal items remained in the house and she is missing. And possibly the door was left open but we don't know this.

I'm not sure there is anything beyond this, but it suggests its what they are attributing to as out of the ordinary.

as noted here:

'Savannah told a senior producer that she doesn't believe that her mom just went out on her own accord,' an insider told the Daily Mail on Monday morning.

'Her stuff was left behind at the house: keys, ID, purse, phone. Everything,' a source said.'



If there was more evidence of something such as a struggle, I don't think her comments, if true, would have been framed like this
Last night the sheriff was talking about how often calls like this come in, and spoke about how unusual it was that they’d have homicide detectives involved.

He cryptically mentioned the scene indicating that something nefarious may have happened, so there’s just got to be something there telling them that (ransacked, blood, etc).
 
  • #306
I also can't imagine a robber robs a house and comes across an elderly lady in the house and takes her with when they leave. You'd think they'd either harm her on site or just run off. If it was a kidnapping for money, I would think there'd be a ransom call or note by now. Maybe there has been and that hasn't been made public.
I think there well may be. a note and things are happening behind the scenes. No one takes an 84 year old woman for no reason.
 
  • #307
We're assuming that they were looking around the house for her, but maybe they were looking around the house for a very specific piece of something that's important to the investigation. Perhaps something was seen on a camera. And so they had to go and see if anything was left behind. IMO only
 
  • #308
Removing her from the home had to be so insanely difficult in any circumstance (moving an elderly but with it woman against her will or a dead body) that I have to think this wasn’t planned but maybe a fight over money that got out of hand. Botched robbery seems so unlikely given the location and private vibes you get from that community.
 
  • #309
This article states investigators have narrowed to 1-4am time frame. Neighbor of Savannah Guthrie's Missing Mom Nancy Details Crime Scene (Excl)
“There were a lot of dark vans with blacked out windows,” Morgan Brown, who lives “a quarter of a mile up the street” from Nancy, told Us Weeklyexclusively. “There were a lot of cop cars there at first, and then it was vans, so I assumed that maybe they came across something.”

According to Brown, those living in the neighborhood are being told to “look at our Ring cameras to see if anything popped up out of the ordinary.” He claimed that authorities are “narrowing it down” to some time between 1 a.m. and 4 a.m. local time on Sunday morning. (Nancy was last seen on Saturday, January 31.)

“I don’t know how they know that,” Brown continued. “My Ring cameras don’t face the street, but I went through them and haven’t heard that anyone found anything.”
 
  • #310
I just really don't get the whole taking her from her home thing. If it was a robbery and she interrupted, they could tie her up/restrain her and finish what they came for or take her to try to get her to go to ATMs, or kill her and leave her body there. If it were for ransom I would have expected a ransom demand by now so I am sort of ruling that out. If they took her to try to get more money from her via bank or credit cards, why not just let her go somewhere, drop her off on a random street corner?

I am really worried she has met her end and that her body has been hidden God only knows where
Possibly taken because person panicked or thought it would decrease evidence? There was a handyman who killed a lady in nyc and put her in a suitcase and tried leaving walking the suitcase down the sidewalk
 
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Last night the sheriff was talking about how often calls like this come in, and spoke about how unusual it was that they’d have homicide detectives involved.

He cryptically mentioned the scene indicating that something nefarious may have happened, so there’s just got to be something there telling them that (ransacked, blood, etc).
Possibly just the fact she can't walk far and she didn't take medication or her personal items with her. Paired with her age, that adds up to something very concerning IMO
 
  • #315
This reminded me of a case of an elderly couple here in Ohio who were murdered by their lawn guys several years ago. An elderly man, in his late 80’s, was very friendly and talkative with the lawn guys every week.
He shared with them about an old coin collection and some sports collectibles that he kept in his home. Each week he’d pull out a wad of cash to pay and gave them each a nice tip after they mowed his lawn.

One evening the lawn guys showed up
at their back door and the couple invited them in. They tied them up, robbed them and then forced them into the backseat of their car that was parked in the garage. One of the guys drove while the other followed in his vehicle. The took them out onto a remote country road, shot them both and set fire to their car. The men were apprehended a few days later after LE reviewed video footage of the two filling up gas cans at a nearby gas station.
 
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  • #316
This is all so disturbing. Anyone who preys on the elderly thru scams and/or physical violence is the lowest of the low.

LE have confirmed this was a crime. I just don't have a feel for whether it could have been 1) a person known to her (drugs involved?) who tricked her into opening the door (possibly knew her schedule) and then might have had a plan to kidnap her for money or try to take her to an atm, or 2) a complete stranger who just happened randomly by her house or 3) a stranger who perhaps was running a scam on her somehow and took it to the next level.*

No matter WHO did this it seems something very bad has happened to a very kind, senior citizen and i hope swift and exacting justice finds this animal. LE seems to be doing excellent work.

*I knew a woman who was very sharp who was taken in by a scam and was on the phone with them and drove to my mom's house and passed her a note while still on the phone. She knew something was wrong and she needed help but was too scared to hang up. (she ended up being ok thanks to family and friends getting involved quickly). But very smart people can be lured by extremely nefarious individuals.
 
  • #317
Last night the sheriff was talking about how often calls like this come in, and spoke about how unusual it was that they’d have homicide detectives involved.

He cryptically mentioned the scene indicating that something nefarious may have happened, so there’s just got to be something there telling them that (ransacked, blood, etc).
Broken window, bashed in door? Alarm going off?

jmo
 
  • #318
1 am to 4 am would indicate someone came to the door, had a key or broke in (I.e. wasn’t sitting in a closet for 5 hours once she got home). Broke in seems so unlikely given how fancy the house was and how set back the house is. So, again, this leads me to came to the door or had a key. Inside job.

The time makes me think someone young and in need of fast cash. Prob for drugs.
 
  • #319
I don't get asking the neighbors to check their ring cams unless they're thinking that they're going to find something around their houses because in that area ring cams don't show the street they just show what's around the property.
Anything is helpful. The cameras may pick up sounds, screams, cars driving by, etc.
 
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This reminds me of a case of an elderly couple here in Ohio who were murdered by their lawn guys a few years ago. The elderly man, in his late 80’s, was very friendly and talkative with the lawn guys every week.
He shared with them about an old coin collection and some sports collectibles that he kept in his home. Each week he’d pull out a wad of cash and give them each a nice tip after they mowed his lawn.

One evening the lawn guys showed up
at their back door and they invited them in. They tied them up, robbed them and then forced them into the backseat of their car that was parked in the garage. One of the guys drove while the other followed in his vehicle. The took them out onto a back country road, shot them both and then set fire to their vehicle. The men were apprehended a few days later after LE reviewed video footage of the two filling up a gas cans at a nearby gas sta

1 am to 4 am would indicate someone came to the door, had a key or broke in (I.e. wasn’t sitting in a closet for 5 hours once she got home). Broke in seems so unlikely given how fancy the house was and how set back the house is. So, again, this leads me to came to the door or had a key. Inside job.

The time makes me think someone young and in need of fast cash. Prob for drugs.
I'll take drugs for $300 Alex
 

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