AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #741
(RSBM) Not sure if all pacemakers do this, but I do wonder how they are coming up with the time in the middle of the night.
Since they were asking for neighbors' camera footage, my guess is that they may have seen a car coming or going that is unaccounted for. The houses in that area are set back from the street and on fairly large lots, but given how dark the streets are and how thin the shrubbery in the desert is, they would likely be able to see headlights from a good distance away. If the angle of neighbors' cameras is right, they wouldn't need to be able to have full visibility to the street to know when a car drove by. And most of those residential streets in the Catalina Foothills are pretty low traffic, especially at night.
 
  • #742
@ 5:35 the sheriff says " we know she didn't walk out of there she's very limited in her mobility"

Walking 150 ft would easily get a person out of their house so I find this confusing because he sounded adamant about her mobility limits.
???

As a FWIW for people without mobility issues, there is being capable enough to get in your car and drive, and maybe walk with aid a short distance, and there is being capable enough to manage around your house with the tools you use to get around, and there is walking, tottering and just barely moving. Walking 150 ft does not always mean get up and walk like most people think walk for 150 ft. It sometimes means get up and make it to the kitchen counter and sit for a bit. Then to the bathroom and sit for a bit. Then to the washing machine and sit on the place you have for sitting a bit. Then to the front door. Then to the car. That 150 ft takes about 45 minutes with rests in between. "Walk" is a relative term.
 
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  • #743
“We have a start point,” Nanos said. “The family took her home from dinner at about 9:30 to 9:45 [p.m.]” on Saturday, January 31.

“So we would back that up to even say 9 or 8:30 p.m. to start looking.”

Nanos confirmed that Annie, Savannah’s older sister, was the last person to see Nancy, 84, prior to her reported disappearance. (Nancy shared daughters Annie and Savannah, 54, and son Camron Guthrie with late husband Charles Guthrie, who died after a heart attack at the age of 49.)

The sheriff noted that Annie didn’t raise any “red flags” about her mother’s behavior during their last interaction.

More at Savannah Guthrie’s Sister Was Last Person to See Missing Mom (Excl)
Has anybody seen any LE interviews indicating whether the family member(s) who dropped NG off at home after dinner escorted her back into the house?
 
  • #744
Izzylizzy .... I agree, that doesn't make sense but I've noticed that message/belief a couple times. Its just a very odd statement to make considering her daughter did not practice law.
 
  • #745
@ 5:35 the sheriff says " we know she didn't walk out of there she's very limited in her mobility"

Walking 150 ft would easily get a person out of their house so I find this confusing because he sounded adamant about her mobility limits.
???

If she is picked up to go to church on Sundays, even if she's using her walker, she still must be somewhat mobile to walk from the parking lot into the church.

And if she is left all alone in her house every night, she must be able to get to the bathroom, etc?
 
  • #746
Has anybody seen any LE interviews indicating whether the family member(s) who dropped NG off at home after dinner escorted her back into the house?
I wish I knew that. I'd like to think they walked her into the house, turned on the lights and got her settled in....
 
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why are so many people assuming she doesn't drive? my grandmother has mobility issues, she probably can't even walk 50 yards like nancy reportedly can, but she still drives.
Ditto. My relative in Tucson has mobility issues and walks with one of those walkers with a built in seat. She lives alone and still drives.

Am guessing Guthrie was not on medicaid . Maybe she has a private caregiver.
 
  • #748
It was reported there were cameras in the house, I assume so family could check on her, why aren't the police commenting about what the found on the home cameras?
I'm hoping that the police saw something important but don't want to reveal it publicly, yet.
 
  • #749
This should never override a person's wishes unless its determined they are unable to make their own decisions due to cognitive impairment or something else.

Sometimes people will make choices that involve risk but it is their life. I think its wonderful when older adults are able to stay in their own home as long as possible, why would we want to deny them that right regardless of risk?
to add to this, I’m very irritated with some people wondering why SG and her siblings “let” her live alone at 84. If she’s not severely physically disabled and is mentally sound, I don’t understand why her age alone should mean they should treat her like a child and force her to do anything. Both my grandmothers had dementia and it got to the point where it was dangerous for them to not be in assisted living (one grandma put clothes in the oven 😣). It was extremely hard and heartbreaking for us to have to sell my other grandmas house—she had lived in it for 50+ years raised her kids there and my grandpa died in that house. She fought kicking and screaming but we couldn’t let her stay there. THOSE are situations you don’t “let” people live in because they could very easily harm themselves and/or their neighbors.

And unfortunately something like this still could’ve happened to her 30 years ago when she was more able bodied. People might say a woman living alone is vulnerable but sadly anyone ultimately can be vulnerable, so how far do you go? BTK killed entire families, all members of the Petit family were home during the invasion that killed the mother and daughters…so should their families not have “let” them live without bodyguards or dogs or steel doors or something? Ridiculous

Moo
 
  • #750
A tough one since so far there's no ransom.
What would someone want with her that they couldn't try and get w/o taking her out of her house?
imo
there are sick and twisted predators that like older women... 😞



NORRISTOWN, Pa. (WPVI) -- A Montgomery County man is behind bars after authorities say he raped a woman in her 90s and broke into the homes of several other women last year.

John Vernon Gray, 22, of Telford, was arrested on Saturday, on charges including rape, attempted rape, sexual assault, burglary and other related offenses.

Authorities say four women, ages 46 and over 90, were victimized during the overnight hours in Towamencin Township.
 
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  • #752
As troubling as the context of this case is, I feel confident that we will have a disposition soon (and I fear the worst). If a person doesn't have the ability to stave off his criminal impulses to accommodate the inherent vulnerability of an 84 year old lady, then he almost certainly doesn't have the nuanced criminal instincts or self-regulation to not leave a monumental trail of evidence that leads right to him. And quickly.

JMO.
 
  • #753
A few things about the area that I've seen discussed, since I'm coming to this thread a little late...

-The Catalina Foothills is one of the nicest parts of Tucson. Lots of wealthy retirees, high-end winter homes, and well-off families. Large lots with nice older, or newer remodeled/custom houses.
-The Catalina Foothills is a very low crime area. The city of Tucson proper has fairly high property crime, but this would be considered a quiet, private, and safe area.
-This house is pretty expensive for the Tucson metro area as a whole. For context, the typical price of a starter-type 3/2 or 2/2 home in central Tucson would be in the $250-400k range. Prices in the Foothills are much higher, but this would still be considered a really nice house and neighborhood. You don't tend to see a lot of gated neighborhoods in the older upscale areas, because they aren't (usually...) necessary.
-The area is very dark and quiet. Even with large lots and space between houses, sound and light carries very well in the desert.
-The area tends not to have sidewalks or curbs, with lots extending right to the street. These upscale neighborhoods outside of Tucson tend to have a natural setting and terrain left intact, with hills, rocks, and deep dry riverbeds (washes) between houses. The terrain in this type of neighborhood would likely be difficult to navigate for someone with mobility issues. If people walk, they walk in the street, which is often the only paved area outside of personal residences.

JMO - I don't know her street in particular, but it's the typical design of the neighborhoods like this around Tucson. Hope that helps a bit with orienting.
 
  • #754
It makes me so sad when every now and then we hear about an elderly person or couple whose lives have been savagely ended. And often there is no reason at all. They should have been allowed to die peacefully while surrounded by love and care.
 
  • #755
If the forced entry part is correct, that might change things away from a personal issue to... well, all manner of other options in addition.
Considering I've only seen the "signs of forced entry" reported by the Daily Mail, I'm not taking that as gospel.

I've seen "the front door was left open" in multiple articles, so I'm more inclined to believe that, but I haven't seen LE saying either of these anywhere that I've read, so neither of these should be considered facts.

If either of these are true (forced entry, front door open) it could still point to staging vs. an actual break-in.
Making it look like like some random stranger gained entry rather than someone who had special knowledge of the house or access to a key.

Unless NG was hard of hearing, depending on the location of her bedroom relative to the perp's point of entry, she would have heard sounds of "forced entry."

But again, one would have to know where her bedroom was in order to determine the safest point of entry....wouldn't one?

JMO.
 
  • #756
As troubling as the context of this case is, I feel confident that we will have a disposition soon (and I fear the worst). If a person doesn't have the ability to stave off his criminal impulses to accommodate the inherent vulnerability of an 84 year old lady, then he almost certainly doesn't have the nuanced criminal instincts or self-regulation to not leave a monumental trail of evidence that leads right to him. And quickly.

JMO.
I really like the way this was worded.
 
  • #757
Possible sexual assault with the victim being taken to minimize DNA at the crime scene?
 
  • #758
Y'all. She didn't wander off. She didn't fall in her house and get harmed. HER abilities and independence have nothing to do with this!!!!! Why is this even being discussed?? I get that it makes people feel better or safer if they can shift blame to a victim or their loved ones, like well that would never happen to me. But it could happen to any one of us. Her use of a cane didn't get her abducted 🙄🙄
 
  • #759

A truly beautiful tribute from Savannah to her mother, several years ago. Nancy seems to have been an amazing mother, especially when her husband died young, and also so encouraging when Savannah did not have children until late in life for a woman.

JMO
 
  • #760
This does help, I’ve been wondering why it didn’t make the news until this morning when she was reported missing at noon yesterday. I would’ve thought word would’ve gone out by Sunday afternoon or evening. But sounds like it wasn’t until last night that foul play came into the picture. So that must mean the house actually didn’t appear in disarray and possibly no blood. If the family and police would’ve seen such things upon arriving I’m sure there would’ve been more urgency and much quicker to label it a crime scene rather than wondering if she just went for a walk and got lost. Hmm…

Moo
 

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