AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #801
Do I have this right, that family was there for a hour before calling police, while it was extremely noticeable something bad happened. What? Makes no sense.
Maybe they were in shock. Not fully comprehending it. Very unexpected. JMO
 
  • #802
Nancy Guthrie, although having ambulatory difficulties, does not appear to be a feeble shut in. Just looking at photos she must have an eye doctor/optometrist, personal physician, drug store/pharmacy, hair & nail salon (the salons always have the latest info and know when a woman is "uncomfortable" with current life), gas up her vehicle, church activities, dog grooming/food (Lrg black poodle), vet appts.
The constant appeal, "she needs her medication"... does that give anyone else the feeling it is an appeal to the abductor's humanity? Maybe even a message to someone who has cared for or should have cared for Nancy or another elderly relative in the past? Pushing thoughts.... a male who lived/cared for his elderly parent in the past? Oh Lord what ever has occurred: "You don't have to be the cause of her death. Just call us and tell us where she is." Such haunting words. I hope they are heard.
 
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  • #803
I work in the personal services industry and I had 2 clients in their mid to late 80s, both female, both lived alone. One was of sound mind, one had dementia. There were several people in and out of their homes each day. It may not have been safe but nobody could convince them to move to assisted living. They both ended up in hospital and passed away pretty quickly in the end.

You can’t just throw someone over your shoulder and take them to assisted living even though it makes sense.
Agree 100% as this hits very close to home. My mom is about the same age, physically in good shape but she has “moderate” dementia. She lives in the 4-5 BR suburban house we grew up in, alone with a few cats (after burying two husbands) and refuses to leave her home. I live less than 10 minutes away and she has professionals come in a few days a week for a couple of hours to help with things, run light errands, etc. home. (Thank God for decent long-term care insurance!) We tried to buy the rancher next to our home and she still refused to leave her home.

Right now, at least as far as the general public knows, the circumstances, perpetrator(s), etc is pretty wide-open. Who was it? What was their relationship to Nancy? Why was their motive? Why/how was she removed from the home?…

Something happened to my mom almost two years ago that makes me think of Nancy’s disappearance. We had some snow and the grandson of a neighbor of my mom’s (about 1 1/2 blocks away and that we didn’t know - son or grandparents) knocked on my mom’s door and asked if she wanted him to shovel her driveway and sidewalk (for pay). She said yes, he did the work, got paid and that seemed to be the end of it. Then several months later he stopped by and offered to do some yard work (for pay). She said no because she had had the same lawn guy for several years. He walked away but came back a couple of weeks later, knocked on her door and asked for money (not for work this time). When she refused he started to argue with her, saying he and his mom were hungry and needed money. She closed/locked the door and he stood in her driveway yelling at her and accusing her of being against him, etc. She didn’t tell me about this incident for months and he hadn’t had any contact either her since so I wasn’t all that concerned.

Then several months after that someone was knocking on her door around 2 AM. She went downstairs and saw a man had opened her screened door and was trying to open the regular door. She had left the phone in the Living Room & would have to walk by the front window to get to it and he would see her so she didn’t call the police. He eventually left after being unable to get the door open.

She told me two days later and I immediately called the police. They immediately knew who it was & said he was a drug addict with a long history with the police. They couldn’t charge him with anything because of dementia made her an unreliable witness & the door handles had been touched by other people that they couldn’t get prints.

This is why we immediately installed Ring cameras and have the app set-up to alert me every time someone approaches the doors. I know it doesn’t “watch” the windows & it won’t keep someone from coming in if they are intent on doing so, but it’s something.

I can’t help but wonder if the perpetrator could be a relative of a neighbor or “help”.
 
  • #804
@ 6:00 AB said "the search and rescue has permanently stopped and unless or until there is an indication they need to reignite it"

How does this make sense to LE?

I take this to mean they are pausing the search in the desert around the home. If they have video clearly showing an abduction, and that she didn’t just wander off on her own suffering from a medical condition, they’re likely not going to want to use resources on avenues they’re confident aren’t the right direction.

Search and Rescue, and Search and Recovery, are two similar but different things requiring different resources.
 
  • #805
My question is why does someone take an 84 year old woman?
If they kidnapped her thinking they could get some ransom money because of her celebrity daughter, there should have been a ransom note or call by now I think.
If she were 24 years old, she would have been taken, abused and buried in a shallow grave by now, but why do you take an 84 year old?
If it was a personal grudge or something, I think her body would have been found at the house.
Weird.
I wonder if they are checking to see if there were any kind of yard workers or handymen working at her home over the last few weeks? She apparently lives alone but has health issues so probably needs help around her house. Many opportunities for casing her house, lifestyle and routines.
 
  • #806
I was wondering the same thing.
However she got there, she must've been a very regular attendee if they were concerned enough by her not showing up to call her children
 
  • #807
This case makes me feel anxious. Poor Savannah, I'd be losing my mind. :(
Taking an elderly woman from her bed at night... unfathomable.
 
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  • #809
Maybe they were in shock. Not fully comprehending it. Very unexpected. JMO
I agree - thinking back on the Moscow ID murders, the surviving roommates behavior was perplexing but began to make sense as more details were revealed
 
  • #810
Do I have this right, that family was there for a hour before calling police, while it was extremely noticeable something bad happened. What? Makes no sense.
I would have thought that in their position I would have called LE sooner rather than later. But I guess we're all different.
 

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