AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Anyone else feel like the Sheriff should think about dialing back the interviews? I guess the FBI is sanctioning them, would he be out there talking if they didn’t approve? I am all for press conferences and updates, but it seems like there are too many opportunities to misspeak and then have to clarify. We are taking his words literally when some of the things are figures of speech.
 
  • #822
Anyone else feel like the Sheriff should think about dialing back the interviews? I guess the FBI is sanctioning them, would he be out there talking if they didn’t approve? I am all for press conferences and updates, but it seems like there are too many opportunities to misspeak and then have to clarify. We are taking his words literally when some of the things are figures of speech.
You mean like this 🤦🏻‍♀️
 

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I woke up hoping there would be, well, closure. I'm sorry to sound so defeatist but it just will take a miracle for this poor woman (dependent on medication just to live) at this point.

I just want to add this. I work with the elderly for a living. I'm getting ready to go to my assisted living/memory care job right now. Average age is 88. I adore the residents with all my heart. They are like family to me. It's also cash only, so they are wealthy residents paying up to 15k-20k a month.

Nancy Guthrie decision to age in place is 100% what I would choose. All the money in the world, no thank you to a nursing home. Probably sounds hypocritical of me. But I try my best to step in when family members disregard their elderly. Be a caring light for them when no one bothers to visit anymore. Make no doubt about it, that's what our society tends to do except for some lucky few. One of my most beloved residents is 98 years old. We do a conga dance into the dining room every night, she is a treasure.

What's important, a lesson for all of us regardless of age, is that in this increasingly isolated world, remember to stay connected to your community. To your people. To your world. Too many elderly are truly on their own. If they went missing no one would even notice. Newspapers pile up, mail pile up. Happened to my neighbor. They found his body three weeks after this poor soul died alone. It's absolutely tragic.

But her church missed her, her daughter had seen her the night before, neighbors reportedly saw her walking her dog(s?), camera's were set up (I assume) to monitor for possible fall risk.

She was connected, loved and now very much missed. You can do everything right and tragedy still finds you.

Stay connected. We need each other for mental and physical health as well as safety. I am going to give an extra hug to my residents today. I am praying for Ms. Guthrie and peace and comfort for all her loved ones.
My mother moved out of a 2500 sq ft home to a small apartment in a community of seniors. It was the best thing for her as it has 24 hour gated security, a theater, and many other amenities. It also had a mean of pressing a red button in every room to get medical help. She moved there in her 60’s not needing any of that and being physically active. Many living there were older. It was NOT an assisted living facility.

The cost of that apartment was 1/3 the cost of what her home was. The maintenance was 600/month however. She was very happy there til she died at 84.
At 84 I would not have wanted her living alone.

Not everyone is ready for assisted living/nursing homes. Needing a cane to walk is not grounds for a nursing home anyway. There are senior communities in the interim between a home and a nursing home.
But spending time in a nursing home with my mother, I would agree that unless you need to be there, it is not a good place.
 
  • #825
If NG was on blood thinners and attacked in bed, it’s very possible that she bled more then expected which startled a garden variety sexual deviant into thinking he killed her.

However, if the scene was a bloody mess, you would think that whatever child came to check on NG would see that and call the police immediately.

My gut feeling says this is similar to the Reiner’s, where a very close family member was set off for whatever reason and went after the matriarch. It seems like the police have a pretty good idea about what happened but they need to work backwards to close the case.
 
  • #826
She had a car. Maybe she was able to drive, if the walk to her car was very short.
Personally, I think you are probably right. As an older woman who no longer walks well, I know I get along fine inside my home, around my yard - usually with a hiking stick but not always - down to the mailbox, going to the grocery store where I lean on the cart, and driving myself anywhere.

That's why I think her family looked for her before calling 911. If the door was open, the first thought was perhaps that she had fallen somewhere on her property. The lay of the land and vegetation probably would prevent passersby or neighbors from seeing her.
 
  • #827
A sound mind is one thing but a sound mind with physical/medical issues could very well determine what is the safest course to take to protect your loved one even though it's not what they want.
imo
I think it's important to remember here that Ms. Guthrie didn't get abducted because she was living alone, she was abducted because someone forced their way into her home in the middle of the night and took her. This could happen to a 20-year-old or a 40-year-old in excellent physical condition. Her being 84 and living alone did not cause this. She didn't fall down and die because nobody checked on her, she was taken from her home in the middle of the night. Unless we learn that she was being stalked and there was some known threat that people ignored, then I don't know what could have prevented this. Sometimes random crime happens even when all precautions are taken and sometimes the elderly are victims simply because they are weaker. I don't think that means they should live with someone if they don't want to. It sounds like her area was safe also and there was no reason to fear something like this happening to her.

It sounds to me like she had plenty of people checking on her. They sounded the alarm within 12 hours of her being missing. That is pretty fast and I think it means that she was in regular contact with plenty of people to ensure she was safe.
 
  • #828
Is there any clarification of where Nancy went missing from?
Her home has been reported to be near East Skyline Drive and North Campbell Avenue in Catalina Foothills, but those two locations don't appear to be anywhere near one another.
Those two streets intersect. Her home is in that area.
 
  • #829
This is extremely common - in alot of cases its called independence. She was capable of making her own decisions and my guess is she wanted to maintain her independence. It sounds to me like the family are very loving, caring, present, supportive and there were other supports in place.

Just because someone has a disability, regardless of age, doesn't mean they lose all capacity of taking care of themselves.

Not having a go at you, just feel this is something that is often presumed about people with disabilities and the elderly. In fact older adults who maintain independence IMO avoid the rapid decline that can be seen when their activities of daily living are prematurely overmanaged.
I agree with you @Strangeworld

Also she had lived in this house for years I believe - she will have memories there. Sometimes with older people the worst thing you can do to them is move them - it can often quicken the aging process imo.

It sounds like the family visited a lot and also had many support workers in place to assist her living at home.
 
  • #830
Jumping in here late so my apologies if I am repeating points that have been discussed.

I think it's quite interesting how the idea that Nancy's abduction is related to a demand for ransom or related to Savannah's status as a public figure. I think they are doing that to deflect and have much more information than they are telling us.

At the same time, I just watched the new Elizabeth Smart documentary and can't help but wonder if this is a similar situation -- did Nancy hire someone to work on her home, drive her to and from church, or some other small interaction with someone that allowed them to understand her routine and gain the upper hand over her?

This is so sad and feels so desperate. Prayers for the Guthrie family.
 
  • #831
Why is the reward offered only $2,500? It seems like they could afford a larger reward. Also, if police believe there is no threat to the community, they must know more than they are saying. Which would also explain the lower reward amount.
 
  • #832
I think it's important to remember here that Ms. Guthrie didn't get abducted because she was living alone, she was abducted because someone forced their way into her home in the middle of the night and took her. This could happen to a 20-year-old or a 40-year-old in excellent physical condition. Her being 84 and living alone did not cause this. She didn't fall down and die because nobody checked on her, she was taken from her home in the middle of the night. Unless we learn that she was being stalked and there was some known threat that people ignored, then I don't know what could have prevented this. Sometimes random crime happens even when all precautions are taken and sometimes the elderly are victims simply because they are weaker. I don't think that means they should live with someone if they don't want to. It sounds like her area was safe also and there was no reason to fear something like this happening to her.

It sounds to me like she had plenty of people checking on her. They sounded the alarm within 12 hours of her being missing. That is pretty fast and I think it means that she was in regular contact with plenty of people to ensure she was safe.
It was not a gated community. If this is in reference to my comment, that is what I was mostly referring to. My mother had a 24 hour gate and no one could get in unless you lived here or were called in. Even me, a nd I was her daughter. That is how tight the security is there. There was no “family list”. Every single time I entered the gate I had to have been called in ahead of time. Even when I was there every day. At one point she got me a pass when she had hospice there bc she was unable to call me in.
They took security seriously there,
SG’s mom was not an ordinary woman. her daughter is a famous millionaire. Older women fall and break hips all the time
I am not saying living alone caused this.

My mother fell and broke a hip and bc she was so close to her front door, and she has neighbors on either side she was able to yell and be heard otherwise she would have been lying there who knows how long. She could have died lying there. I am just saying that at that age, I do not believe, for her healths sake alone, that she should be living alone without security/ medial care availability in a 3,000 SS ft home. Unless she had a medical aide there. We don’t know that. Her daughter had the means to supply her that unlike the average person.
 
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Ambulatory means many different things. In her case, it sounds like she couldn’t walk far without assistance. I haven’t heard them make a distinction on how much she could walk with a cane or a walker. She’s not out hiking the hills in her backyard, but it sounds like she could probably do normal day to day activities. I bet she could even meander around a store fairly easily. Walking with a walker or cane does not disqualify you from driving either. She doesn’t sound like she was mostly bedridden and it doesn’t seem like she required long-term specialized care.
 
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Ambulatory means many different things. In her case, it sounds like she couldn’t walk far without assistance. I haven’t heard them make a distinction on how much she could walk with a cane or a walker. She’s not out hiking the hills in her backyard, but it sounds like she could probably do normal day to day activities. I bet she could even meander around a store fairly easily. Walking with a walker or cane does not disqualify you from driving either. She doesn’t sound like she was mostly bedridden and it doesn’t seem like she required long-term specialized care.
Non ambulatory is not able to walk without assistance
 
  • #836
Jumping in here late so my apologies if I am repeating points that have been discussed.

I think it's quite interesting how the idea that Nancy's abduction is related to a demand for ransom or related to Savannah's status as a public figure. I think they are doing that to deflect and have much more information than they are telling us.

At the same time, I just watched the new Elizabeth Smart documentary and can't help but wonder if this is a similar situation -- did Nancy hire someone to work on her home, drive her to and from church, or some other small interaction with someone that allowed them to understand her routine and gain the upper hand over her?

This is so sad and feels so desperate. Prayers for the Guthrie family.
I have thought it could be an aide, a relative of the aide, gardener, etc.
But they would have stolen from her, not abducted her without ransom. Right?
A relative of mine-after she died it was found out that the aide was writing checks to herself. It’s hard to keep track of what is going on when someone lives alone. They may have their mental facilities but can still be taken advantage of.
When my mother died, I noticed that my deceased father’s gold wedding band was gone from where she kept it. (I had seen it when she first got back from the hospital. She had an aide the last 3 months of her life. Who knows what else was taken.
 
  • #837
My mother moved out of a 2500 sq ft home to a small apartment in a community of seniors. It was the best thing for her as it has 24 hour gated security, a theater, and many other amenities. It also had a mean of pressing a red button in every room to get medical help. She moved there in her 60’s not needing any of that and being physically active. Many living there were older. It was NOT an assisted living facility.

The cost of that apartment was 1/3 the cost of what her home was. The maintenance was 600/month however. She was very happy there til she died at 84.
At 84 I would not have wanted her living alone.

Not everyone is ready for assisted living/nursing homes. Needing a cane to walk is not grounds for a nursing home anyway. There are senior communities in the interim between a home and a nursing home.
But spending time in a nursing home with my mother, I would agree that unless you need to be there, it is not a good place.

You and I are on the same page. I'm glad it worked out so well for your dear mother (RIP). I have residents who it works out well but they also tend to be people with very active and involved family and friends. The woman who I conga with into the dining room was a teacher and has a man from her fourth grade class (remember, she is nearly 100!) still visit her. Truly remarkable woman.

There is also a big push for continuum of care which sounds safe/ideal but can also turn into a gilded cage:

Independent living - assisted living - rehab/skilled nursing - memory care - hospice.

(MOO, it's profit over people). We have far too many elderly who have no visitors (ever) and sit in their rooms staring out the window all day.

Loneliness and lack of free agency is a tragedy in itself. Working in this field has taught me to nurture my own village, prioritize and value healthy relationships and authentic communities. And it sounds like to me that Ms. Guthrie might have had that. I hope so. Hurts my heart so needed to vent a bit. Thanks kindly for hearing me out.
 
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Not much more information this morning than was available yesterday. Police seem to be going through the data to find a hint about what happened. Video, Plate Readers, Cell Phones, Tips. I had expected to see a snippet of video of a car caught at one of the intersections, perhaps they don't have it, or they don't need the public to track it down.

A priority for investigators right now is downloading security footage from the house, he said. Private companies such as Google and Apple have also been offering assistance, the sheriff said.

Officials are urging the community to help, asking neighbors to look through video footage from their homes and call in any suspicious activity. Any bit of information could help investigators piece what happened together, he said.

“I need this community to step up and start giving some calls, let us know if you’ve seen something,” Nanos said.

The sheriff’s department set up a tip line for people to submit videos or images that may be useful to the investigation, and a reward of up to $2,500 is being offered for information leading to an arrest.

Authorities are also looking through digital evidence, including by using a license plate reader and scrubbing surveillance video. It is unclear whether a vehicle was involved, Nanos said.

Police have Guthrie’s cell phone and are looking through that as well, Nanos said.
 
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