AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Just got caught up this is just crazy. I want to thank @tricia for having Webseluths and keeping it going all these years! I know I don't post on here often but WS has always been my go to when I get really into a case like this!
yep lol I haven't been here since the Karen Read trial gave me WS burn out last year! But was my go to when I heard about this case to find the good info!
Always come back.. lol
 
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This interview with a reporter from TMZ says it was 'items from around the home' that were mentioned in the note.

He says they received it 'mid morning this morning' and he summarises what it said:

'"We are the people behind this and we are demanding" [what was a large sum of money]... whether or not the letter is a bad cruel joke by somebody that obviously now is for le to determine... we turned it over to them...included was an address that is a real actual bitcoin address and a couple of items around the home that were noted that were brought up in this email, that potentially only the people responsible might know...'

 
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I think whoever took her was invited in by her

So, that is confusing. Who would you invite into your home past 10 pm? Family members, close friends, maybe. I really can't think of anyone else. We go to bed at 8 pm, so no one would ever even come over that late
 
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So, that is confusing. Who would you invite into your home past 10 pm? Family members, close friends, maybe. I really can't think of anyone else. We go to bed at 8 pm, so no one would ever even come over that late

Cops.
 
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Just trust me- it’s impossible.
I’m sorry, I find that hard to believe. I’m sure it would involve a lot of work, but I believe deposits could be found under these circumstances. Honestly though, I doubt the whole ransom note a bit. Who would pay millions into a probable undetectable account and not know where the victim is. This sounds too way out there.
 
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So are we thinking the ransom note sent to all the reported news stations at same time, or just grew tired of not being reported on and kept sending?

Wonder if this impatient note writer is online or in groups like ours.

I really would like to know the email provider service used.

I think the link Massguy posted stated that the local station received it on Monday (ie about 24hours after the kidnapping). The TMZ guy says they received it 'this morning mid-morning'. I think that interview was today?

So no. Perhaps they want news coverage, and they weren't getting it, as someone above stated.
 
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You would open your door for a family member. Someone you know. Maybe for a crying stranger begging for help.

Or a child, maybe.

[maybe this is revealing about me, but I'm not sure I would open the door to a crying stranger begging for help at 2am :(. I would prob ring 911. If it was a woman? Maybe. But still only maybe.]
 
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I don’t usually follow super large cases like this. This one just stuck out to me. I finally caught myself up this evening. Part of me feels like it was a couple of younger adults (honestly around my own age of 23) that did this. The possible ransoms, the bitcoin mentions. I just feel like it was a group of very dumb young adults who honestly thought this was the way to become well known. Unfortunately we see it a lot with largely reported on crimes, the suspect becomes almost as well known, if not more so than the victim.. All MOO.
 
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You would open your door for a family member. Someone you know. Maybe for a crying stranger begging for help.
Going to be honest here. Not sure I would open my door for a stranger at all. I'll talk to them through the wrought iron, call who ever they need me to call, but I am NOT opening the door.
 
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I’m sorry, I find that hard to believe. I’m sure it would involve a lot of work, but I believe deposits could be found under these circumstances. Honestly though, I doubt the whole ransom note a bit. Who would pay millions into a probable undetectable account and not know where the victim is. This sounds too out there.
A lot of mysteries would be solved if bitcoin wasn't near impossible to trace. You pretty much need the wallet owner to slip up to trace.
 
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You would open your door for a family member. Someone you know. Maybe for a crying stranger begging for help.
I would open for family, my best friend and that’s it. I wouldn’t open it up for LE and would call 911 for a crying stranger. That’s it. Even if it’s daylight. I watch too much Dateline.
 
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I think the link Massguy posted stated that the local station received it on Monday (ie about 24hours after the kidnapping). The TMZ guy says they received it 'this morning mid-morning'. I think that interview was today?

So no. Perhaps they want news coverage, and they weren't getting it, as someone above stated.
The tmz email may have been sent around the time of the press conference.
 
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I think the link Massguy posted stated that the local station received it on Monday (ie about 24hours after the kidnapping). The TMZ guy says they received it 'this morning mid-morning'. I think that interview was today?

So no. Perhaps they want news coverage, and they weren't getting it, as someone above stated.
Right, and we don't know if something was left in the home or if LE also received a note. They said they didn't, but that doesn't make it true.

JMO
 
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Just to clear up Bitcoin.
It is untraceable, period. Nobody can identify who a wallet belongs to. The whole idea of bitcoin was to be untraceable. And yes, there are criminal networks who love bitcoin for that reason.

Bitcoin itself is untraceable in the sense that it isn’t linked to personal information, but all Bitcoin transactions are permanently stored on the public blockchain and can be viewed by anyone. Owners of Bitcoin wallets can be identified depending on the specific exchange the wallet is on (many Bitcoin exchanges have adopted anti-money laundering measures such as requiring ID verification before the coins in that wallet can be moved off-platform). In 2021 the FBI actually managed to recoup $2.3 million of the $4.3 million in Bitcoin ransom Colonial Pipeline paid to hackers to stop a ransomware attack — so it isn’t entirely untraceable anymore.
 

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