AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[white rabbit]

So, that is confusing. Who would you invite into your home past 10 pm? Family members, close friends, maybe. I really can't think of anyone else. We go to bed at 8 pm, so no one would ever even come over that late

Going to be honest here. Not sure I would open my door for a stranger at all. I'll talk to them through the wrought iron, call who ever they need me to call, but I am NOT opening the door.

no one, mickey, except those you spoke of (family member?) wink.

exactly, agilbe. and though i did read the front door was "kicked in" for all we know it was LE and they're trying to divert suspicion by implying that there was indeed forced entry.

start from the beginning. NG went out to dinner...with whom? AG (the daughter not on television)...who else? AG's husband (i don't know if she even has one)...kids? NG's son, the decorated fighter pilot? i'd love to hear from the maitre'd or wait staff from the restaurant.

i'm stating the obvious. LE isn't going to reveal any of this as they shouldn't...

 

[whitelilac]

Right! They must have had a vehicle...

And how many cars on the road between 1am and 4am?

Can we assume LE would/should have a vehicle caught on someone's camera by now?

Or are there bits of desert or something you could off-road into and stay out of sight?

(Sorry I've never been to Arizona so apologies if that's a stupid question!)

Apparently it is very dark there, even no lighting pointing upwards is allowed due to the observatories in the region, so if cameras picked up a vehicle, it would only be the headlights. I suspect they'd have fake license plates too.

 

[turaj]

The sheriff clarified that he was sometimes speaking figuratively rather than literally, so we don’t know if she was “literally” taken from her bed or just that she was taken when she would normally be in bed.

in a press conf. about a potential homicide you should be giving facts not speaking figuratively. Crazy statement he made.

 

[BurnerForDaddy]

Bitcoin itself is untraceable in the sense that it isn’t linked to personal information, but all Bitcoin transactions are permanently stored on the public blockchain and can be viewed by anyone. Owners of Bitcoin wallets can be identified depending on the specific exchange the wallet is on (many Bitcoin exchanges have adopted anti-money laundering measures such as requiring ID verification before the coins in that wallet can be moved off-platform). In 2021 the FBI actually managed to recoup $2.3 million of the $4.3 million in Bitcoin ransom Colonial Pipeline paid to hackers to stop a ransomware attack — so it isn’t entirely untraceable anymore.

Yeah exactly. Anyone who thinks crypto is untraceable is lying to themselves. It might take time, but if an intelligence agency wants to follow transactions on the blockchain, it is very capable of doing it and has done it multiple times in the past.

 

[Fromeaster]

The helicopter must have been looking for the body.

 

[Sleuthster]

I'm curious what NG was doing Saturday
It could.have been random
Could she have been out shopping or having lunch when someone spotted her and figured she had money followed her home and came back later to break in and rob her.
The random letter seems.like an after thought. I think it went down bad and NG was injured or killed. So they are playing it off as a kidnapping. I'm guessing they did not write she was OK like they usually do
Just that they may have to kill her by Thursday if they didn't get the bit coins by Monday? It just seems all after thought

 

[CuriousCricket]

Going to be honest here. Not sure I would open my door for a stranger at all. I'll talk to them through the wrought iron, call who ever they need me to call, but I am NOT opening the door.

That's me. I'd call 911 immediately, before even answering the door. Grab my gun and perhaps talk to them through the door. Tell them they were welcome to wait on the porch, help was on the way. NO door opening.

 

[Vegasgrl]

I wouldn't open my door for any stranger, even during the day. If they don't leave after my first command, I dial 911. If it's LE, I ask them (from my side of the door) to verify precinct contact number. Then I call to check. It's usually about being a possible witness. I'm not letting anyone I'm not expecting inside my home. I'm a little surprised how many have said they would open their door at night under certain circumstances - for a stranger. Be safe.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Im my dads caregiver. He has a samsung smart watch that has a fall alarm. I get him into bed at night, and then I take it off him and put it on charge. Its very possible NG did same, some models of FitBits also have fall detection.

I live in the city, so this point might not be totally relevant, but I've had two doorbells stolen since living in this apartment!

I always think, who on earth would steal a doorbell?

But it's possible the doorbell was taken way before the night itself.

Without it then, the obvious answer I can think of as to 'why would she answer the door in the middle of the night' is to law enforcement.

Two perps dressed as cops. Many people of Nancy's demographic are going to open up.

I always think WHO on earth would abduct an 84 year old woman!

 

[orangechicken]

Right! They must have had a vehicle...

And how many cars on the road between 1am and 4am?

Can we assume LE would/should have a vehicle caught on someone's camera by now?

Or are there bits of desert or something you could off-road into and stay out of sight?

(Sorry I've never been to Arizona so apologies if that's a stupid question!)

I agree the roads would be quiet. She probably left her property around 2 am when the pacemaker and watch disconnected from each other. Bars will be at least mostly closed by that time and most people are asleep at home.

I was able to use the Pima County Parcel Search site and her last name to locate the home. I don't want to share more details than necessary to protect the family's privacy but it can be searched. It showed that she owns a 0.97 acre property. In her neighborhood, the properties are generally that size and it is somewhat hilly so there are visual obstructions. The landscape is native with saguaros, prickly pear, and other plants that can grow to 10-20+ ft (the saguaros grow quite tall). So there is plenty of visual obstruction if you wanted to pull off the road and dump something. It would be difficult to drive through the landscape though off road, there's too high a density of plants.

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This is her road, but to be clear not immediately in front of the house. It feels weird to post her address online, even as news agencies have posted photos of the home. I just want to give an idea of what it looks like.

In the summer here it is stupid (dangerous) to go hiking during the heat of the day and search and rescue constantly has to go out and rescue dehydrated heat sick people. So my impression is that there is a sizeable search and rescue group in this area based on demand.

Edit: planets -> plants

 

[MollyHarps]

I am just not believing the ‘ransom’ story.

I think it’s really far fetched and incredibly risky - would you really choose to abduct an 84 year old lady with health issues for ransom? Especially when her health issues are related to high blood pressure and heart problems. She could pass away pretty quickly under the stress of it all.

I am sticking with this sadly being a sexual assault and then a murder by somebody she didn’t know or had loose connections to.

 

[ms-t]

I have been following this case with lots of empathy and concern since it started. My Mom was about the age of Nancy when she passed, also lived independently, and I really feel for Savannah and the rest of her family.

I think it is entirely likely that an older lady who had lived in the same house for 50 years would open the door to neighbors, to an aide or maid who knocked saying they left something at the house (i.e. a purse or phone), and to the police.

 

[Cardgame]

Re. the ransom note, does anyone remember seeing reported what the deadline given was?

My brain is telling me 'Thursday' but now I can't find that source.

 

[Dexxie8]

I have the ring subscription plan, but not police notification. My system keeps any activity from my devices for 5 days, then it is archived. And yes, when my device notifies me my battery is low, it always shows my face when I remove it. And for me, I need a special screwdriver to remove it from it's mount.

My ring camera pops right off the mount without needing a screwdriver.

 

[turaj]

I would open for family, my best friend and that’s it. I wouldn’t open it up for LE and would call 911 for a crying stranger. That’s it. Even if it’s daylight. I watch too much Dateline.

I live in Minneapolis not opening for anyone but family.

 

[turaj]

Re. the ransom note, does anyone remember seeing reported what the deadline given was?

My brain is telling me 'Thursday' but now I can't find that source.

both Thurs and Mon were mentioned

 

[Magic8Ball]

I'm curious what NG was doing Saturday
It could.have been random
Could she have been out shopping or having lunch when someone spotted her and figured she had money followed her home and came back later to break in and rob her.
The random letter seems.like an after thought. I think it went down bad and NG was injured or killed. So they are playing it off as a kidnapping. I'm guessing they did not write she was OK like they usually do
Just that they may have to kill her by Thursday if they didn't get the bit coins by Monday? It just seems all after thought

Savannah Guthrie's sister who was the last person to see their mom

Today Show host Savannah Guthrie's sister, Annie, had just seen their 84-year-old mother for dinner hours before she was reported missing on Sunday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Just hours earlier, she had enjoyed a dinner with Annie before playing mahjong - a popular four-player tile game that Nancy had posted about on January 24.


According to this article, she was playing Mahjong with her daughter on Saturday evening.

 

[agilbe]

That's me. I'd call 911 immediately, before even answering the door. Grab my gun and perhaps talk to them through the door. Tell them they were welcome to wait on the porch, help was on the way. NO door opening.

My mother was told as much by 911. A young girl came knocking on her back door in the wee hours of the morning. She thought it was me. She called 911 and was told NOT to open the door to her. Imagine my surprise when I showed up to her house and there were no less then 3 police cars at her house.

 

[Dexxie8]

I have been following this case with lots of empathy and concern since it started. My Mom was about the age of Nancy when she passed, also lived independently, and I really feel for Savannah and the rest of her family.

I think it is entirely likely that an older lady who had lived in the same house for 50 years would open the door to neighbors, to an aide or maid who knocked saying they left something at the house (i.e. a purse or phone), and to the police.

Agree and I could see her opening the door for a stranger too if they acted like they needed help. She was born in the 40’s and things were a lot different back then I really hope for a miracle here

 

[whitelilac]

I live in Minneapolis not opening for anyone but family.

Same here....I live on a very safe street, know all the neighbors etc. Two well dressed women knocked on my door. I didn't open. Then messaged neighbors....same. I figured they were Jehovah Witnesses, harmless but nope, not opening.