AZ Nancy Guthrie (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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If you zoom in you can see the tiny spray drops. I thought that meant impact of some sort, either sharp or blunt. Would dripping blood cause all that tiny spray?
I’d love to hear opinions. I’m just a forensic files watcher and really don’t know lol
I see what you mean about the tiny splatters adjacent to the larger drops. I would guess those are just cast offs from the larger drops blood but I am not an expert. The fact that she had a pacemaker, coupled with the discoloration of her arm in one of the pictures of her, makes me think she was likely on blood thinners (probably something like Eliquis). So even a small wound would likely bleed a lot and would take a long time to stop.
 
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If you zoom in you can see the tiny spray drops. I thought that meant impact of some sort, either sharp or blunt. Would dripping blood cause all that tiny spray?
I’d love to hear opinions. I’m just a forensic files watcher and really don’t know lol
Or a cough type thing. I kept thinking would that mean she was laying on the ground for that spot? I'm sorry to say that.
 
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Or a cough type thing. I kept thinking would that mean she was laying on the ground for that spot? I'm sorry to say that.
Yep. That’s what I think I looks like
 
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I think the fact that the note hasn’t been called a hoax already is a good indication at least the info provided is legitimate. Why allow the ransom note story 12 hours of coverage if the info is wrong. Is there a benefit to not discrediting it?
the only thing I can think of is if it’s not credible and police think it’s a hoax, they might not bother spending their time correcting it, at least not right now. They might think let MSM talk about it while we work behind the scenes on the solid leads we do have.

However I don’t think that’s the case here.

moo
 
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There are signs of forced entry.
Yes, I’m sorry, I meant no disrespect to NG just making a generalized dumb joke

moo
 
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BREAKING NEWS....TRYING TO VERIFY NOW!!!! Will check back in a few minutes!

Anyone else wonder how Entin got so close to the door to film the blood and such? I imagine that a defense attorney would have a field day with an unsecured crime scene like that.

JMO.
 
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WOW WOW WOW---could it really be the son-in-law????????

I trust Brian Entin because he has always been pretty thorough. This is blowing my mind because I felt suspicious of the way the Investigator said " He is ABSOLUTELY not a suspect." I felt that was off somehow.

And one of the only motives that made sense to me was a possible family member wanting an inheritance.

Sister's car was just towed by LE? That is major.
 
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I know my Mother has friends, I don't know who they are, or their phone numbers. Nor do they have my information. I don't have my kids friends names, or phone numbers. Nor do they know my friends or have their phone numbers.

So it just seems odd to me.
Really?? I have known most of my mother's friends for decades. I know their names, their children and grandchildren's names. Many of them attended my wedding. I either have their phone numbers or I could easily get them (google has most).
 
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BREAKING NEWS....TRYING TO VERIFY NOW!!!! Will check back in a few minutes!
Huh. Where was it stated that “he’s absolutely not a suspect” or some such strong words like that? The phrasing made me side eye for sure

moo
 
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Anyone else wonder how Entin got so close to the door to film the blood and such? I imagine that a defense attorney would have a field day with an unsecured crime scene like that.

JMO.
It had been released back to the family. He's not guilty of anything but walking up to the door of a private residence.

MOO
 
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It’s called expirated blood and pics online look like that
If the tiny drops are splatter from expirated blood, then there are two sources of the blood since expirated blood would not cause the larger more formed drops. I guess both of these patterns could be seen in a nose bleed which can occur with minimal trauma in a person taking blood thinners.
 
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WOW WOW WOW---could it really be the son-in-law????????

I trust Brian Entin because he has always been pretty thorough. This is blowing my mind because I felt suspicious of the way the Investigator said " He is ABSOLUTELY not a suspect." I felt that was off somehow.

And one of the only motives that made sense to me was a possible family member wanting an inheritance.

Sister's car was just towed by LE? That is major.
ahh was it an investigator who said it? I just commented the same thing that it sent up a red flag to me. Come on guys get better at your metaphorical poker faces.

moo
 
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* Le parole restano sospese nell’arco di un respiro a confessare segreti tremano sulle labbra sorprese in scialbi riti di contrizione che lasciano l’anima rastremata....
English translation:
Words remain suspended in the space of a breath confessing secrets trembling on surprised lips in dull rites of contrition that leave the soul tapered....

On the page of his employer, in 2015. Yuk, special


 

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Well, if true that’s just devastating.

I assumed it would be someone with some familiarity towards her, but I hoped it wouldn’t be a family member. 😔 I hope he admits what he did to her if it's true.
 
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I don't know what inspires or motivates people to publish poems.... maybe it is just how they see & interpret the world. Maybe the same impetus as an artist who paints what he sees and how it makes him feel? Or even the same for a musician who creates melodies or sings lyrics. Hmmm, from past life experience:
mi hanno fotografato pesato misurato schedato registrato intervistato scordati il passato è come nascere di nuovo il caldo è un segnale un salto di continente...
English Translation:
They photographed me, weighed me, measured me, filed me, recorded me, interviewed me. Forget the past, it's like being born again. The heat is a signal, a leap from one continent to another...
 
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WOW WOW WOW---could it really be the son-in-law????????

I trust Brian Entin because he has always been pretty thorough. This is blowing my mind because I felt suspicious of the way the Investigator said " He is ABSOLUTELY not a suspect." I felt that was off somehow.

And one of the only motives that made sense to me was a possible family member wanting an inheritance.

Sister's car was just towed by LE? That is major.
Was NG wealthy? And how many sons/daughters did she have who would be in line for the inheritance? I can't imagine wanting the inheritance was the motivation, but who knows what goes through some peoples minds?
 
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Ashleigh Banfield is the one reporting about the son-in-law (at this moment). In that recently posted video, Brian Entin says "he doesn't know anything about the son-in-law being a suspect. All he knew was that the FBI was at their house today ( Annie's and her husbands house)."

From the video Ashleigh says she is getting this information from her law enforcement source. From her source they have towed and impounded Annie's car.

This makes sense to me since either Annie or Annie and her husband were the last to see Nancy. Per the video it is not clear if it was just Annie who dropped her off or both Annie and her husband.

This also makes sense since family is always thoroughly checked out. So, it could be LE just covering their bases and especially since family were the last to see the victim. It also makes sense that family members know about the house, cameras, the family members habits, etc. If it does turn out to be a family member - my heart hurts even more. I know typically (not always) it is someone close to the victim. I just pray that Nancy is somewhere ok. ):

Moo; moo.
 

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