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[why_nutt]

It's the NE for Godsakes! They will create extreme drama from anything.

Let's wait until we hear more from a more credible source. This may be something routine, or nothing at all. We just don't know at this point.

For the moment I consider it credible, if only because She Who Must Be Paid and various other Ramsey defenders who consider themselves In The Know have not come forth to dispute it. Their track record generally has them correcting the tabloid story within hours if something can be said about the story being inaccurate.

 

[Seeker]

Yes, but she who must be paid usually brings out these little tidbits before the NE so she can "set the record straight" as well.

I still don't trust the NE or any other America Media publication...

 

[Barbara]

For the moment I consider it credible, if only because She Who Must Be Paid and various other Ramsey defenders who consider themselves In The Know have not come forth to dispute it. Their track record generally has them correcting the tabloid story within hours if something can be said about the story being inaccurate.

Yes, but She Who Must Be Paid is also no longer on the list of "insiders" when it comes to John and Patsy's personal information.

And....if she is in the know, or maybe one of the others "in the know" sold the story to the NE in the first place for a few bucks. After hearing the "babysitting story" in the other thread, nothing shocks me anymore. I'm sure she would have taken some loose change to sell a story.

 

[Ivy]

I hope the NE story isn't true. I don't wish cancer on anyone.

imo

 

[why_nutt]

I hope the NE story isn't true. I don't wish cancer on anyone.

imo

To keep a reasonable perspective on the table:

None of us have the power or ability to wish cancer on Patsy. We could say nothing but the words "cancer" for the rest of our lives, and Patsy would not get it because we said so. Voodoo does not work. It is her body, and her body alone, whose processes will bring it about or not. There is not one of us, no matter what our opinions on the case may be or what we may say about her whether negative or positive, who can or should feel responsible for Patsy's cancer.

 

[Ivy]

Of course none of us can wish cancer on someone. It was just a figure of speech I used to express my hope that her cancer hasn't returned. Geez.

imo

 

[why_nutt]

Of course none of us can wish cancer on someone. It was just a figure of speech I used to express my hope that her cancer hasn't returned. Geez.

imo

Some people do believe that wishing harm can cause harm to come about; I am not one of those people, and am heartened to hear you are not, either.

 

[tipper]

To keep a reasonable perspective on the table:

None of us have the power or ability to wish cancer on Patsy. We could say nothing but the words "cancer" for the rest of our lives, and Patsy would not get it because we said so. Voodoo does not work. It is her body, and her body alone, whose processes will bring it about or not. There is not one of us, no matter what our opinions on the case may be or what we may say about her whether negative or positive, who can or should feel responsible for Patsy's cancer.

[url]http://www.4woman.gov/faq/stress.htm#5[/url]

Is there a relationship between cancer and stress?

The complex relationship between physical and psychological health is not well understood. Although studies have shown that stress factors (such as death of a spouse, social isolation, and medical school examinations) alter the way the immune system (the body’s defense against infection and disease, including cancer) functions, they have not provided scientific evidence of a direct cause-and-effect relationship between these immune system changes and the development of cancer. Scientists know that many types of stress activate the body's endocrine (hormone) system, which in turn can cause changes in the immune system. It has not been shown that stress-induced changes in the immune system directly cause cancer.

Several studies have indicated an increased incidence of early death, including cancer death, among people who have experienced the recent loss of a spouse or other loved one. But, most cancers have been developing for many years, and it is unlikely that cancer would be triggered by the recent death of a loved one. However, some studies of women with breast cancer have shown significantly higher rates of this disease among those women who experienced traumatic life events and losses within several years before their diagnosis.

Although the relationship between psychological stress and cancer has not been scientifically proven, stress reduction is of benefit for many other reasons.

 

[jat]

[url]http://www.4woman.gov/faq/stress.htm#5[/url]

Is there a relationship between cancer and stress?

The complex relationship between physical and psychological health is not well understood. Although studies have shown that stress factors (such as death of a spouse, social isolation, and medical school examinations) alter the way the immune system (the body’s defense against infection and disease, including cancer) functions, they have not provided scientific evidence of a direct cause-and-effect relationship between these immune system changes and the development of cancer. Scientists know that many types of stress activate the body's endocrine (hormone) system, which in turn can cause changes in the immune system. It has not been shown that stress-induced changes in the immune system directly cause cancer.

Several studies have indicated an increased incidence of early death, including cancer death, among people who have experienced the recent loss of a spouse or other loved one. But, most cancers have been developing for many years, and it is unlikely that cancer would be triggered by the recent death of a loved one. However, some studies of women with breast cancer have shown significantly higher rates of this disease among those women who experienced traumatic life events and losses within several years before their diagnosis.

Although the relationship between psychological stress and cancer has not been scientifically proven, stress reduction is of benefit for many other reasons.

Stress definitely changes the chemical flow of your body. It is now being discovered that untreated depression in your younger years and through adulthood is somehow linked to early alzheimer's. This is what osteopathic medicine is all about. Treat the whole person, not the disease as much disease is caused by our hormones and chemicals naturally in our bodies and mind. Sorry, I don't really have anything important to add, but this is one of my causes in life...to educate folks on the effects of depression, stress, etc. on their physical health.

 

[Jayelles]

Patsy has lived a lot longer - and with a better quality of life than most others who receive her diagnosis.

I don't think anyone can say that the particular stresses she has lived with have been detrimental to her health. I have actually wondered if there is a chemical which is released during particular types of stress which could protect one from cancer. I'm not a chemist, but I am aware of the effects of adrenalin which can give us almost super-human strength in certain situations. I would have thought that Patsy would be of great medical interest to scientists. What chemical processes have taken place in her body during these years of stress exacerbated by accusations, bad press, betrayals by friends, lawsuits..... Could any of them be inadvertently helping her to fight the cancer?

 

[BrotherMoon]

Give credit where credit is due, faith in JHVH and thanksgiving through sacrifice.

 

[Trino]

If it were truly my last days, I would press as hard as I could to find who killed my child, and with my last breath I would wish to seem this person brought to justice. I would not spend my time trying to get my husband elected to political office. Unless, of course, I had already solved the murder.

 

[BlueCrab]

If it were truly my last days, I would press as hard as I could to find who killed my child, and with my last breath I would wish to seem this person brought to justice. I would not spend my time trying to get my husband elected to political office. Unless, of course, I had already solved the murder.

But the killer might be found in the Michigan Legislature, just as O.J. Simpson is convinced the killer will be found on the golf course.

JMO

 

[BrotherMoon]

If it were truly my last days, I would press as hard as I could to find who killed my child, and with my last breath I would wish to seem this person brought to justice. I would not spend my time trying to get my husband elected to political office. Unless, of course, I had already solved the murder.

Don't take this too lightly. Patsy says she isn't as afraid of death as she use to be. But when it comes down to the actual time things may be different. The "intuder within" may come back at that time.