Nationwide College Cheating Scandal - Actresses, Business Owners Charged, Mar 2019 - #2

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https://pagesix.com/2019/04/06/lori-loughlins-other-daughter-is-still-in-her-corner/

“'Olivia is furious with her parents over this mess and now she is terrified that she may be forced into court to take the stand to testify,'” an unnamed source told the site.

The 19-year-old knew about the alleged scheme and would have stopped it if she thought they’d get caught, according to People."



Would've stopped if if she thought they'd get caught?!?

How about: would've stopped it because it is WRONG?

Or even: would've stopped it because she didn't even want to go to college anyway.
 
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The comments on the article are 95% against her. They are really calling her out, both for the crime and for being an all-around fake, including that staged shopping photo op
https://pagesix.com/2019/04/06/lori-loughlins-other-daughter-is-still-in-her-corner/

“'Olivia is furious with her parents over this mess and now she is terrified that she may be forced into court to take the stand to testify,'” an unnamed source told the site.

The 19-year-old knew about the alleged scheme and would have stopped it if she thought they’d get caught, according to People."



Would've stopped if if she thought they'd get caught?!?

How about: would've stopped it because it is WRONG?

Or even: would've stopped it because she didn't even want to go to college anyway.

She would have had to stop if fairly early. The damage was done when the crew coach agreed to the the payment.

The prosecutors might ask to put Olivia on the stand if the Gianulli's don't cooperate. But that might also be risky. She might be so pathetic it makes the prosecution look cruel.
 
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It is really going to be interesting what kind of sentence Felicity Huffman gets. I’m shocked she has done this.
 
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Somehow I'd be very surprised if the majority of them got jail time. It's probably just my skepticism of the justice system and I absolutely hope I'm wrong.
The closest thing I can compare this to is what happened with the Atlanta school testing scandal and 11/12 of those involved got jail time so I guess we will see what happens. Although there are a lot of differences between those people and these.

Different race, social class, state vs. federal charges, poor kids/rich kids. About half took plea deals and from what I can find they got fines and probation. All the trial ones got anywhere from 6 month of weekends in jail all the way up to 20 years with 7 to serve.

I won't say much more because I'm already kind of going off subject but I'll be pleasantly shocked if most of the celebrities end up doing a couple of years after going to trial.

It's hard to say which crime is worse but the money is so much different. These teachers (not admin) supposedly did this to keep their 50k jobs and for a 2k raise as well as additional funding for the schools. Where as some in this scandal made millions from their activities. Both still illegal definitely.
 
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So I guess the message to all their Children is you are not good enough to get into these schools, any school you can get into just isn't good enough, look what money and power can buy you etc. etc. Heartbreaking to think they robbed a person of a truly earned spot.
 
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Somehow I'd be very surprised if the majority of them got jail time.

I won't say much more because I'm already kind of going off subject but I'll be pleasantly shocked if most of the celebrities end up doing a couple of years after going to trial.
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I, too, am skeptical that there will be prison sentences anywhere near on the scale of Martha Stewart's for example.

But I do think there will be "symbolic" prison sentences for a few. Like a month or a week or something. Enough for the biggest offenders *cough* to have to report to a federal prison, get fingerprinted, mug shot, entered into the system, and "deprived of freedom". Even in a cushy white-collar crime prison.

Singer has reached a plea agreement and he will spend time in prison, although a reduced sentence for cooperating so extensively. Some of the coaches and test-fakers will have sentences.

But the really interesting part will be how the really rich get punished.

Then there's the IRS fraud stuff. But I don't know if the results of that are made public
 
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I, too, am skeptical that there will be prison sentences anywhere near on the scale of Martha Stewart's for example.

But I do think there will be "symbolic" prison sentences for a few. Like a month or a week or something. Enough for the biggest offenders *cough* to have to report to a federal prison, get fingerprinted, mug shot, entered into the system, and "deprived of freedom". Even in a cushy white-collar crime prison.

RSBM. The first of the "parents" has plead guilty. A second has said he will plead as well. We will know soon what the consequences will be.

The Loughlin/Giannulli family dynamic through this is going to make them the poster family for this case. They are not keeping things on the down low. The attributed quotes and sentiments of the daughter and the PR plan of Lori just makes it harder for them to get any kind of "sympathy" or consideration from the public or LEO. If I remember correctly, Martha Stewart was quiet and defiant after lying to the government with a smattering of "I am above the law" when on TV. It didn't work to her favor in court. This is a trap I can see Lori going into. They need to be aware of the PR spin b/c it can go either way in a trial with a jury of your peers. Lastly, the Loughlin/Giannulli family needs to cut the unattributed "sources" out of their lives b/c I can see the media reports getting their daughter called to the stand.
 
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Would've stopped if if she thought they'd get caught?!?

*facepalm* Yeah I think that goes for pretty much everyone who's facing punishment for illegal acts. Safe to say there's prisons full of people who wouldn't have done what they did if they knew they'd get caught.

Does Olivia Jade actually think that statement makes her look good?!

All MOO/JMO
 
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I cant think of a better punishment than some jail time. Hefty fine. Public humiliation may not be enough. I do like that some are suffering job/brand loss. As it should be. A huge lesson and message needs to be sent to those who feel a sense of entitlement. I'm disgusted by this.
 
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I, too, am skeptical that there will be prison sentences anywhere near on the scale of Martha Stewart's for example.

But I do think there will be "symbolic" prison sentences for a few. Like a month or a week or something. Enough for the biggest offenders *cough* to have to report to a federal prison, get fingerprinted, mug shot, entered into the system, and "deprived of freedom". Even in a cushy white-collar crime prison.

Singer has reached a plea agreement and he will spend time in prison, although a reduced sentence for cooperating so extensively. Some of the coaches and test-fakers will have sentences.

But the really interesting part will be how the really rich get punished.

Then there's the IRS fraud stuff. But I don't know if the results of that are made public

I think even Martha Stewart's wasn't enough for her crime. She got 5 months in a prison camp and a comparatively "small" fine.

These crimes, IMO, are worth minimum a year in prison for the parents plus humongous fines or donations to organizations that help disadvantaged students with college placement.

The test takers, coaches, admins of the colleges who were in on it should get 5 years and the mastermind should get 10 years. And that's just what I feel for the test/admission thing, and added time for the tax evasion.
 
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I think the Gianulli's PR is going to backfire on them.

They are making themselves, and the hapless OJ big targets.

Other plaitiffs are pleading guilty or keeping low and will likely find ways to "repent".

LL and her daughters should just stay out of the press until this is over. They are only making themselves obvious targets to be made examples of
 
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I cant think of a better punishment than some jail time. Hefty fine. Public humiliation may not be enough. I do like that some are suffering job/brand loss. As it should be. A huge lesson and message needs to be sent to those who feel a sense of entitlement. I'm disgusted by this.

Jail time is the best. A second punishment should be all of these people paying a very large fine to start some sort of real charity similar to what they were "donating" to. Making them and their kids donate time as part of their community service hours should be in there as well.

I've got one in college and it's tough. Crazy stress all the time about the entrance exams then the stress of keeping grades up once in school. I think the sense of entitlement is the worst of it to me as well and that the normal college stress is so relatable to the overwhelming majority of people in this country and many others is why this is such a high profile case and examples should be made.

We all tell our kids that working hard and giving your all has tremendous rewards so it's hard to see things like this happen just with easily writing a few checks.
 
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I will say that I am pleasantly surprised and glad for the few that have admitted their wrongs and will take whatever plea is given. Hopefully this justice system works like it should and these few get lighter sentences while the ones that go to trial receive much stiffer punishment.
They obviously know they did wrong and can't even simply admit it. The ultimate sense of entitlement and hopefully they're wrong.
 
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All of that money to send their kids to a college that they had NO interest, at all, in attending. The kids wanted to go to Arizona but the parents literally paid a ridiculous amount of money and made them pretend they were on a sports team just to get them into USC? I mean, come on people. It cracks me up that Olivia hated college anyways.
 
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All of that money to send their kids to a college that they had NO interest, at all, in attending. The kids wanted to go to Arizona but the parents literally paid a ridiculous amount of money and made them pretend they were on a sports team just to get them into USC? I mean, come on people. It cracks me up that Olivia hated college anyways.

Olivia would have been better off going to community college. Why set up your child for failure? Were her parents just going to keep paying off instructors until she had enough credits to graduate?
 
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Olivia would have been better off going to community college. Why set up your child for failure? Were her parents just going to keep paying off instructors until she had enough credits to graduate?

I have to think that would be the plan because it’s very clear Olivia had no capacity to actually attend school and take her own exams with any success.

They would have to be paying to get her to graduate
 
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Especially with the huge staged hug and beaming smiles. It's like this huge public show of look, look, see, this daughter still loves me, our family is together and strong!

It all feels so fake, defiant, and arrogant. And quite honestly, 100% about Lori's ego and pride, and not even what is best for public image/perception. It's like what she is most petrified of is appearing weak, sad, humbled, shamed, stressed, anxious, nervous, scared, humiliated, embarrassed.

So she's going with perky, suburban mom in athleisure wear, who's just got to smile and ride out this little blip with some yoga and shopping sprees until this pesky, annoying legal-y issue thing gets settled with the fancy, high-priced attorney people who make such things go away and put this whole little nuisance behind them. All is well in Pleasantville.
 
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Especially with the huge staged hug and beaming smiles. It's like this huge public show of look, look, see, this daughter still loves me, our family is together and strong!

It all feels so fake, defiant, and arrogant. And quite honestly, 100% about Lori's ego and pride, and not even what is best for public image/perception. It's like what she is most petrified of is appearing weak, sad, humbled, shamed, stressed, anxious, nervous, scared, humiliated, embarrassed.

So she's going with perky, suburban mom in athleisure wear, who's just got to smile and ride out this little blip with some yoga and shopping sprees until this pesky, annoying legal-y issue thing gets settled with the fancy, high-priced attorney people who make such things go away and put this whole little nuisance behind them. All is well in Pleasantville.
She's putting on a good show. I have a feeling things have been pretty tense behind closed doors however. Oh the drama...
 
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