Nationwide College Cheating Scandal - Actresses, Business Owners Charged, Mar 2019 - #2

[BOSCOE]

I must be loosing it more than I thought because I could swear I read who it was that paid the mega bucks.

 

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In college scandal, rowing was the ideal sport for stowaways, cheating

In college scandal, rowing was the ideal sport for stowaways, cheating, lies

So true - "But one pastime was particularly suited to Singer’s scheme. According to court documents, when it came to helping Giannulli and Loughlin, he turned to a sport with large rosters, little fan or media scrutiny, and wide latitude in recruiting female athletes — as well as one position that requires little physicality."

 

[kaen]

Martha weighs in........Martha Stewart Calls College Admission Scandal 'Embarrassing' (Exclusive)

 

[neesaki]

The comment regarding "I did what any Mother would do" Is infuriating yet a glimpse once again to the mindset. No us "Mothers" tend to instill a good work ethic and morals. Good lord!

She seems to be trying to deflect and minimize her actions. Not sure why she thinks that will work, but then again some might really believe her. :sigh:

 

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Martha weighs in........Martha Stewart Calls College Admission Scandal 'Embarrassing' (Exclusive)

Gotta love Martha's quote - "It's just embarrassing for a family to go through what they're going through and horrifying that it even occurred," Stewart shared. "It's a sad thing."

Yep, that's the worst part of it - that it is embarrassing for the family!!! So sad.

LIKE HOW ABOUT, IT'S SO WRONG AND ILLEGAL!!

 

[neesaki]

I must be loosing it more than I thought because I could swear I read who it was that paid the mega bucks.

My question is why aren’t they releasing the name of this person. Or did they and I totally missed it?

 

[Not a Belle]

According to Lor... err.... a source:

She is very concerned about what a guilty plea would do to her daughters, who may not have grasped everything that was going on,” the source says.

“Yes, she can think about the public perception of her, but that’s nothing compared to what her daughters think of her. So that is something that has understandably made her less likely to enter a plea.

“It’s just taking some time for it to sink in that what she was allegedly doing could be considered illegal,” says the source. “To her, it wasn’t egregious behavior. Was it entitled and perhaps selfish? Perhaps. But she didn’t see it as being a legal violation.”

“From the beginning, she didn’t want to take a deal, because she felt that she hadn’t done anything that any mom wouldn’t have done, if they had the means to do so,” the source continues. “So this wasn’t her being obstinate; this was her truly not understanding the seriousness of the allegations.”

Lori Loughlin 'Is Very Concerned What A Guilty Plea Would Do to Her Daughters': Source

She has had multiple high powered lawyers since day 1, and she is still saying she does not understand the seriousness???!!?

Right. Heaven forbid they learned something about taking responsibility for mistakes and showing an ounce of integrity.

 

[Herat]

Right. Heaven forbid they learned something about taking responsibility for mistakes and showing an ounce of integrity.

I think the Gianulli's are just really really angry that they are the ones who got caught.

This is very much like how they raged at and threatened the high school guidance counselor who told them their children were not qualified for USC scholastically. They threatened to have her fired.

This EXACTLY the same. "It's not their fault."

I do hope they get prison sentences, the both of them. Down deep, they are both nasty arrogant people and horrible parents for putting their needs for fame ahead of their children's needs

 

[JanetElaine]

Gotta love Martha's quote - "It's just embarrassing for a family to go through what they're going through and horrifying that it even occurred," Stewart shared. "It's a sad thing."

Yep, that's the worst part of it - that it is embarrassing for the family!!! So sad.

LIKE HOW ABOUT, IT'S SO WRONG AND ILLEGAL!!

I also 'loved' her remark about "that's showbizz!" in reference to the Jussie Smollett case. It gave me a bit of insight in how their ('showbizz people') thinking goes. It looks like they're fine with 'their people' screwing up left and right and not really being held accountable because showbizz people are supposed to be quirky and quaint. And above the law, apparently. We're supposed to shrug it off with a smile and a chuckle and let them carry on with their lives. Which to me seems exactly like the way Loughlin/Giannulli are behaving.

JMO

 

[ilovewings]

It is really sad that people, especially teenagers and younger people worship celebrities: so many of them are vapid, entitled empty vessels. They have beauty but sadly, twisted values-- they basically live in a sub-culture where they can pretty much do and say anything because it is acceptable in the hollywood setting. This scandal has pulled off the mask of respectability
of those involved, and revealed who they really are and it ain't pretty.

 

[Only4Justice]

I think the Gianulli's are just really really angry that they are the ones who got caught.

This is very much like how they raged at and threatened the high school guidance counselor who told them their children were not qualified for USC scholastically. They threatened to have her fired.

This EXACTLY the same. "It's not their fault."

I do hope they get prison sentences, the both of them. Down deep, they are both nasty arrogant people and horrible parents for putting their needs for fame ahead of their children's needs

Nasty arrogant people. I couldn’t agree more @Herat

 

[mickey2942]

I think the Gianulli's are just really really angry that they are the ones who got caught.

This is very much like how they raged at and threatened the high school guidance counselor who told them their children were not qualified for USC scholastically. They threatened to have her fired.

This EXACTLY the same. "It's not their fault."

I do hope they get prison sentences, the both of them. Down deep, they are both nasty arrogant people and horrible parents for putting their needs for fame ahead of their children's needs

I really love rich, entitled people. They are absolutely fascinating to armchair diagnose while talking to them. Narcissism, sociopathy, grandiose speech, and they don't even have a clue about their pathological behavior. Beverly Hills is rife with people like this. Dealing with people who think they are royalty, and everyone else is a serf, is quite entertaining when you have the ability to cut down their self inflated egos. Then, they scramble to collect their attitude. And they realize the fact that they are not royalty.

Huffman is there. Waiting for Loughlin to fall.

 

[Herat]

I must be loosing it more than I thought because I could swear I read who it was that paid the mega bucks.

Morrie Tobin

He is the guy that mentioned the cheating scandal. He may be the $6.5 million man who has cut the very best deal to expose the principles in the thing, mostly Singer. But we don’t know for sure if he is really the one, but it makes sense that he is not being named because of his cooperation.

The Yale Dad Who Set Off the College-Admissions Scandal

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

What continually resonates with me is the fact that these parents refused to acknowledge that their children weren't smart enough to get into highly competitive colleges. It saddens me to think that parents are so disappointed in their offspring's abilities that they will go to extremes to avoid having others find out that their children couldn't get into these prestigious schools.

 

[kaen]

Morrie Tobin

He is the guy that mentioned the cheating scandal. He may be the $6.5 million man who has cut the very best deal to expose the principles in the thing, mostly Singer. But we don’t know for sure if he is really the one, but it makes sense that he is not being named because of his cooperation.

The Yale Dad Who Set Off the College-Admissions Scandal

I thought it might be him as well. Below bolded by me.

Without his name the LA Times wrote this, "At the start of the new year, Singer sent Meredith, who had coached the Yale soccer team for more than two decades, a check for $400,000, drawn on the Key Worldwide Foundation charity account.

It was Meredith’s actions that led to the scam’s unraveling. Prosecutors say he solicited $450,000 from another parent, who had previously been charged with securities fraud and promptly gave up the coach’s offer, eventually wearing a concealed microphone during a payoff meeting with Meredith in April 2018. The coach ultimately told federal prosecutors of his deal with Singer.

Yale said in a statement that one of two students linked in court records to the scam was admitted and currently attends the university, while the other was denied entry." Mystery parent paid $6.5 million to get kids into top universities as part of admissions scandal

It just seems like a long way from 450K to 6.5 million. So then I thought we still have not "met" the 6.5 million dollar criminal.

ETA: I would love to see the 6.5 million winner's perp walk. Anxiously waiting.

 

[ilovewings]

What continually resonates with me is the fact that these parents refused to acknowledge that their children weren't smart enough to get into highly competitive colleges. It saddens me to think that parents are so disappointed in their offspring's abilities that they will go to extremes to avoid having others find out that their children couldn't get into these prestigious schools.

I was thinking the same thing as you expressed in your post. I think parents like this are narcissistic, because what it really says is, that the way the parents see it, if their kids aren't smart enough to get into a highly competitive college, it reflects on them (the parents)---- so they cannot accept that they (the parents) have children that aren't as smart as they want their children to be, so they feel they ( the parents) must be lacking and they can't deal with that.

 

[Inthedetails]

I was thinking the same thing as you expressed in your post. I think parents like this are narcissistic, because what it really says is, that the way the parents see it, if their kids aren't smart enough to get into a highly competitive college, it reflects on them (the parents)---- so they cannot accept that they (the parents) have children that aren't as smart as they want their children to be, so they feel they ( the parents) must be lacking and they can't deal with that.

I think the kids are smart enough - but they haven't been educated enough. I get the vibe that they weren't spending their nights and weekends writing research papers or figuring out trig questions that would prepare them for the exams. Cut classes, probably...weren't serious students in high school, which meant the tests would be very difficult.

What are you doing to put on a college app if your grades are bad and test scores are low? Fake info, that's what.

Plus, there is the whole habit of paying people to do stuff you don't want to do. Laundry, cooking, applying to college = all the same boring type of task that someone else can be hired to do.

The scandal shows poor work ethic more than lack of ability, imo.

And it's not as if they're lazy. Looking good all the time takes work and lots of time. Their priority simply isn't on academics....but they want to LOOK like academics are so easy for them that they can get high scores while at the same time vlog, travel, hang out with pretty people.

jmo

 

[Herat]

I think the kids are smart enough - but they haven't been educated. jmo

I think it's more that the parents are worshiping the veneer of intelligence and accomplishment that a degree from an elite university gives. Almost as if it's the "must-have" designer outfit or the cool car.

It's just a status possession.

The quality of the education and the match of the educational experience to the child's talents or interests seems to have no value whatsoever. It's not as if they need the USC degree to continue on to become an architect, a physicist, a philosphy faculty member, a pediatric surgeon. Nothing like this. Few of the cheating scandal kids are expected to do anything but perform adequately in their social strata.

The families have some various expectations, but the Gianulli's is infuriating to me because part of it just seems to be Loughlin's legitimacy to fly USC flags at their house, to have USC license plates on their car, to attend USC functions. For Lori, it's all about HER, not even for her daughters. I do pity Olivia, who does seem to be caught in the middle. For all the shallowness and vapidity of her vlog site, it is something she has done and evidently done well in the world of shallowness and vapidity in which she orbits. She made no false claims and did have protestastions about the USC plan, but I'll bet she went along with it once her parents presented the social lubricant it would give her. And indeed, she was well on her way Spring Breaking on a billionaire's yacht.

But she really wanted to go to ASU, which IS known as a party school. Can you imagine the cocktail hour talk with Hollywood movers and shakers if asked where Olivia and Isabella were going to school. Once the word "Arizona State" was mentioned, there would be the most awkward icy pause in the conversation. The word would doom the Gianulli's to the kitchen gossip in their social circle. I think some parents could deal with this: " Oh Richy is unique, he just really wants to go to Arizona State and study desert wildlife." But Mossimo had already marched into the high school counselor and demanded his daughters were USC material. Whatever.

In my business, a degree from USC just engenders a big eye roll.

There is nothing magical about these children or these parents. They just have vast amounts of money. And as we continually see, the love of that money is the root of all evil. Even the evil you bring upon yourself, as these parents have.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

What continually resonates with me is the fact that these parents refused to acknowledge that their children weren't smart enough to get into highly competitive colleges. It saddens me to think that parents are so disappointed in their offspring's abilities that they will go to extremes to avoid having others find out that their children couldn't get into these prestigious schools.

I think u hit the nail on the head. Imo.

 

[Laughing]

What continually resonates with me is the fact that these parents refused to acknowledge that their children weren't smart enough to get into highly competitive colleges. It saddens me to think that parents are so disappointed in their offspring's abilities that they will go to extremes to avoid having others find out that their children couldn't get into these prestigious schools.

Slightly OT:

I'd like to suggest rephrasing to "not academic enough."

In the 80's, psychologist Howard Gardener wrote about Multiple Intelligences. His identified possibly 11 sub-groups of human intelligence. We're all strong in some; no one is strong in all.

9 Types Of Intelligence - Infographic

OJ can play to a camera, that's for certain, implies interpersonal intelligence; the skill with make-up implies spatial & possibly naturalistic intelligence.

OJ's statement that she does not want to go to college further implies inTRA-personal intelligence!

The linguistic & analytical strengths that are generally seen as College Material -- the school counselor didn't see those strengths in OJ.

11 kinds of smart, and young OJ knows which kinds she is -- while apparently her mother does not! We know a family who shepherded one child through medical school, and another through welding school. Both young adults are self-supporting & happy -- their parents know each as an individual & supported that individual. Unfortunately for OJ, her family is different.

If you've completed Clifton Strengths at work, you probably have a good idea of multiple intelligences.


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