Nationwide College Cheating Scandal - Actresses, Business Owners Charged, Mar 2019

[JanetElaine]

Matthew Keys‏Verified account @MatthewKeysLive
According to transcripts, Felicity Huffman's husband William H. Macy was aware of the college admissions cheating scandal. DOJ prosecutors say he was heard on consensually-recorded telephone calls discussing the scheme with gov't confidential witnesses.

I'm genuinely curious why Macy wasn't charged. He clearly knew about it and went along at the least.

 

[Wagtales10]

Very good point. That money really would make a difference to many, many applicants.

Maybe some of the companies where these bribers work will set up funds.

jmo

... they wont.

Corporations dont care about people, only making people think they are people.

 

[kaen]

This is just one more example of how stilted the competitive college admissions process is.......In most high schools, the college counselor/school counselor to student ratio is greater than 300 to 1. In private schools or small high schools in higher income communities the number is closer to 50 to 1 with many richer families hiring private college coaches for essay "review", school selection, and reach out. The system is definitely not fair on any level. While the released facts of this case are surprising, we all need to remember that an athlete in a sport that has needs for certain positions (even in a D3 school) gets "points" in the same way that legacies or academic standouts do. Famous people or rich people get points based on who they know or who their friends know.

Around the SAT cheating, a number of years ago there was the extended time and "psychological assessments" by private psychologists in order to tilt the system toward rich children who were only fair to middling. The College Board closed that loophole after there were years of kids dx'ed in 9th or 10th grade before the PSAT administration. People pay up to 5k for SAT/ACT tutoring--sometimes kids will be tutored throughout their high school career. It is crazy really but we can also see that when the other advantages of wealth and access begin to shrink people will do what they can to get a little bit of the extra they think their kids need.

Private SAT/ACT test sites are awesome---you may have only one student in a room. They can have water or snacks nearby (especially if they have extended time). They don't have to show up extra early and sign in as kids in cafeterias with 600 others do. The site can also administer the test later than 8 am. You do have to pay extra and there are often very few slots.

I don't think any of the these kids can be held accountable unless we have direct proof or they are charged. Funny, the gain of 400 points didn't raise a red lag for these kids but.... this young woman who had a large jump has been punished by having her scores withheld (and by accounts of people I know--didn't cheat). Kamilah Campbell's story at Florida girl had her SAT result flagged. She says she didn't cheat and hires famous lawyer. - CNN But, she dropped her fight-----https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/us/florida-girl-sat-controversy/index.html

 

[Wagtales10]

I'm genuinely curious why Macy wasn't charged. He clearly knew about it and went along at the least.

Maybe they want him to testify?

 

[Judith Sleuth]

The Latest: Judge approves $250K bond for Felicity Huffman

 

[Wagtales10]

This is just one more example of how stilted the competitive college admissions process is.......In most high schools, the college counselor/school counselor to student ratio is greater than 300 to 1. In private schools or small high schools in higher income communities the number is closer to 50 to 1 with many richer families hiring private college coaches for essay "review", school selection, and reach out. The system is definitely not fair on any level. While the released facts of this case are surprising, we all need to remember that an athlete in a sport that has needs for certain positions (even in a D3 school) gets "points" in the same way that legacies or academic standouts do. Famous people or rich people get points based on who they know or who their friends know.

Around the SAT cheating, a number of years ago there was the extended time and "psychological assessments" by private psychologists in order to tilt the system toward rich children who were only fair to middling. The College Board closed that loophole after there were years of kids dx'ed in 9th or 10th grade before the PSAT administration. People pay up to 5k for SAT/ACT tutoring--sometimes kids will be tutored throughout their high school career. It is crazy really but we can also see that when the other advantages of wealth and access begin to shrink people will do what they can to get a little bit of the extra they think their kids need.

Private SAT/ACT sites are awesome---you may have only one student in a room. They can have water or snacks nearby (especially if they have extended time). They don't have to show up extra early and sign in as kids in cafeterias with 600 others do.

I don't think any of the these kids can be held accountable unless we have direct proof or they are charged. Funny, the gain of 400 points didn't raise a red lag for these kids but.... this young woman who had a large jump has been punished by having her scores withheld (and by accounts of people I know--didn't cheat). Kamilah Campbell's story at Florida girl had her SAT result flagged. She says she didn't cheat and hires famous lawyer. - CNN But, she dropped her fight-----https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/us/florida-girl-sat-controversy/index.html

Well Lori's daughter was a "college athlete" who received improper benefits. In other cases they get expelled or kicked out. Should happen here too.

 

[Gardenista]

I've never heard of this actress

Lori Loughlin gushed over daughter’s entrance to college on ‘Today’

See Lori Loughlin talk about sending her daughter to college in 2017 interview

 

[Wagtales10]

I've never heard of this actress

Lori Loughlin gushed over daughter’s entrance to college on ‘Today’

ok?

She was on full house.

 

[Seattle1]

Felicity Huffman’s Bond Set at $250,000 for Alleged College Admissions Bribe

Wow-- is $250k bond the going rate for $15,000 fraud payment?

I'm following some brutal crimes now where accessory to murder, and police officer shooting bonds were set at $50K.

If that's the rate, OK-- but celebrity shouldn't be treated differently at bond hearing.

Not condoning either -- I was one of the first in this thread to call them out!

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm genuinely curious why Macy wasn't charged. He clearly knew about it and went along at the least.

I thought at the last minute he declined to go through with it. I'm wondering if his wife went ahead without telling him? That's speculation on my part, not fact.

jmo

 

[Gardenista]

Wow-- is $250k bond the going rate for $15,000 fraud payment?

I'm following some brutal crimes now where accessory to murder, and police officer shooting bonds were set at $50K.

If that's the rate, OK-- but celebrity shouldn't be treated differently at bond hearing.

Not condoning either -- I was one of the first in this thread to call the out!

Maybe the feds are different? Plus she has deep pockets so she could flee very easily.

 

[Wagtales10]

Wow-- is $250k bond the going rate for $15,000 fraud payment?

I'm following some brutal crimes now where accessory to murder, and police officer shooting bonds were set at $50K.

If that's the rate, OK-- but celebrity shouldn't be treated differently at bond hearing.

Not condoning either -- I was one of the first in this thread to call the out!

wealthy people have a higher chance and more access to fleeing or doing something against terms of release.
I have no issue with charging wealthy more. They can afford it.

 

[Inthedetails]

... they wont.

Corporations dont care about people, only making people think they are people.

They might not care about people, but they care about appearances. Money tossed into a scholarship fund might help redeem a bad rep.

But, yeah, I hear you. I'm not exactly holding my breath.

jmo

 

[Wagtales10]

They might not care about people, but they care about appearances. Money tossed into a scholarship fund might help redeem a bad rep.

But, yeah, I hear you. I'm not exactly holding my breath.

jmo

Doubt it.
They'll fire the fraudsters and move on making profits.

 

[Gardenista]

Here's a twitter thread that explains the Macy situation

Matthew Keys on Twitter

 

[CrimeDawg123]

... they wont.

Corporations dont care about people, only making people think they are people.

True, but management might decide it could be cost-effective to give the appearance of a mea culpa. If so, you can bet the marketing department will be working overtime to spin it.

 

[Wagtales10]

True, but management might decide it could be cost-effective to give the appearance of a mea culpa. If so, you can bet the marketing department will be working overtime to spin it.

easier to fire the fraudster, wipe their hands and leave.
Corporations do not care about people. Only profit.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I've never heard of this actress

Lori Loughlin gushed over daughter’s entrance to college on ‘Today’

See Lori Loughlin talk about sending her daughter to college in 2017 interview

OT but do they really drink wine on this show? It's not even noon! ETA I would need to drink to watch this show.

 

[Gardenista]

Felicity Huffman's bond set at $250G, Lori Loughlin's husband at $1 million in alleged college admissions scam

 

[Inthedetails]

True, but management might decide it could be cost-effective to give the appearance of a mea culpa. If so, you can bet the marketing department will be working overtime to spin it.

I agree. I worked for a short amount of time in corporate charity. Corporations use charity giving to redeem themselves in situations like this. I'm not saying that will happen in this case, but I'm sure someone is considering it at these companies. I also suspect if they do set up a scholarship to redeem themselves, it has a chance of being hollow.

Also, some corporations truly are generous. I've seen that too. In this case, it will be for spin, imo.

jmo