NBC Action News new timeline - 11/02/2011

[Pensfan]

Ugh. She was also in bed at 4:30 pm? Maybe that black trash bag sloppily taped over her window was to "encourage" Lisa to sleep..... too much.....way too much. The boys had a rug (yes, a thick rug) hanging over their window which looks like they might have also been "encouraged" to sleep. Now I'd like to know how many doctors were prescribing Deb xanax and how many mgs she received/month and if CPS would PLEASE run a drug screen on those children's hair. The words "adult time" will disturb me for a long time now.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

This makes me understand the concerns LE has. All this time and they still can't get it straight? Not that we know who 'they' is at this point.

Can I throw this out here... Do "most" cases get this convoluted? IOW, is it the nature of the beast? Or is this one unusual? Thanks in advance.

Every case starts out relatively simple, and after the media picks it up, it tends to get convoluted. I don't know if it's necessarily the media that causes it, or it's just that they would drop a case if it wasn't sensational enough, but it seems the most high profile cases have a lot of twists and turns.

 

[Whisperer]

I'm wondering about now how to split up these two parents. They are stuck like glue. Neither going out w/o the other by their side. Heck, these parents with missing kids who aren't married hang together better than the married ones.

It would be normal to see a split about now...as each would be questioning the other's behavior and words.

In the Cummings Case and this one, we see a couple who wants to show the public how much they love each other. In the Cummings case, he married the suspect within a month of his daughter's disappearance. In this case, we see the father behaving in similar manner...but he can't marry her because she is presently married.

I found it strange in Satsuma and I find it strange in Kansas City.

 

[AlmostGone]

I dont think so either, its just, I am sitting here going, where is that kitty they were so quick to mention. Supposedly she got it that day, so where was she when she got it.. Might help as to another timeline.. Which is just what we need.

Maybe the kitten jumped into the window and just became a part of the family lol... If the kitten was smart it jumped back out IMO :0)

 

[cityslick]

Ugh. She was also in bed at 4:30 pm? Maybe that black trash bag sloppily taped over her window was to "encourage" Lisa to sleep..... too much.....way too much. The boys had a rug (yes, a thick rug) hanging over their window which looks like they might have also been "encouraged" to sleep. Now I'd like to know how many doctors were prescribing Deb xanax and how many mgs she received/month and if CPS would PLEASE run a drug screen on those children's hair. The words "adult time" will disturb me for a long time now.

This is where we are at now? Blatant off the charts accusations with absolutely no facts to back it up? Drugging the girl now? Don't we have a theory thread already?

Not every mother is Casey Anthony.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

It's been almost a month since this precious child disappeared.


ETA: It's okay for me to point that out, right? Even if I don't have a link?

 

[Pensfan]

I'm not a psychologist by any means, but liars embellish their stories sometimes. IMO, to throw in something "neutral" like this cat scenario, it makes them more comfortable with what they're saying, and momentarily takes everyone off course too.

Pseudologia fantastica comes with factitious disorders. Pat Brown suggested Deb had a factitious disorder (Munchausen).

 

[djm41]

The timeline says the neighbor checked on her at 4:30 and she was in her crib.So it does not seem like it was a diaper change. It seems like she was laying down in her crib, and the neighbor peeked in.
At 5:30, according to MSM reports, Mom served a chicken dinner to her boys, that neighbor and the 4 yr old daughter. No mention of Baby Lisa being at dinner with them. Then an hour later she is put down for the night.

Sounds very hinky to me that an 11 month old would be essentially kept in her room from 4:30 on.

It sounds hinky to me too. Its been awhile since mine were that age, but my little one ADORED her big brother. She would NOT have been happy to be stuck in a crib with her brother and a friend there. She would have wanted to be a part of the fun. Isn't that how most kids are?

 

[Pensfan]

This is where we are at now? Blatant off the charts accusations with absolutely no facts to back it up? Drugging the girl now? Don't we have a theory thread already?

Not every mother is Casey Anthony.

According to the moderators, every poster on WS is entitled to have an opinion. Notice the pronoun "I" and the words "might" and "maybe" in my post.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm sorry........ but sick babies in my house were checked on constantly and 99% of the time are right next to me 24/7 ( when I fostered)...heck my 13 year old son if sick with a fever lays on the sofa during the day, in the family room, across from me and at night ...he still sleeps in my bed!

I like to keep a close eyeball on sick kids because things can get ugly fast, especially with a baby.

 

[Marple]

If Lisa was ill with a cold, she might have not been sleeping well during the day. Maybe she snoozed a bit around 4:30 and then was still cranky so she went to bed at 6:30. My granddaughter sometimes comes home from daycare completely exhausted and cranky because she missed a nap, falls asleep for about half an hour around 5 and then goes to bed at 7 or 7:30 for the night.

 

[Whisperer]

I'm with Pat Brown. Something is wrong with the mother. Alcoholism is the least of it.

 

[curiousjo]

Ugh. She was also in bed at 4:30 pm? Maybe that black trash bag sloppily taped over her window was to "encourage" Lisa to sleep..... too much.....way too much. The boys had a rug (yes, a thick rug) hanging over their window which looks like they might have also been "encouraged" to sleep. Now I'd like to know how many doctors were prescribing Deb xanax and how many mgs she received/month and if CPS would PLEASE run a drug screen on those children's hair. The words "adult time" will disturb me for a long time now.

Was the baby already DEAD?! Were people told she was "SICK" and "SLEEPING" in the crib, as part of a cover up of a dead child.

I want to know if the neighbor actually saw /heard a LIVE baby? And when the kids last saw a LIVE baby.

But, at this point they have been coached, in case LE does re-interview them. And JI appears to say anything to back up DB, .... remember that fan was pretty darn noisy. I want that guy to get riled up a bit. Wondering if his parents/relatives actually believe this story and what they feel about a daughter in law who got drunk while watching their grandkids and let an intruder steal Baby Lisa. I would be furious if this happened!

 

[Whisperer]

When can we hear the 911 tape?

 

[~n/t~]

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. Maybe both. These sources are too much.

JI's concern about the electrical bill made me laugh out loud. The neighbour sees Lisa in the crib at 4:30 and then at 6:30 DB puts Lisa in the crib. Deborah is groggy.

Wow the 'source' must've been the fly on the wall or the kitty, perhaps.:innocent:

 

[Mountain_Kat]

When can we hear the 911 tape?

Oh, LE has already let all of us hear it. They just told us not to play it for YOU. :crazy:

 

[Emeralgem]

Was the baby already DEAD?! Were people told she was "SICK" and "SLEEPING" in the crib, as part of a cover up of a dead child. I want to know if the neighbor actual saw /heard a LIVE baby?

And when the kids last saw a LIVE baby. But, at this point they have been coached in case LE does re-interviews them. And JI appears to say anything to back up DB, .... remember that fan was pretty darn noisy. I want that guy to get riled up a bit. Wondering if his parents/relatives actually believe this story and what they feel about a daughter in law who got drunk while watching their grandkids and let an intruder steal Baby Lisa. I would be furious if this happened!

BBM.. In reference to myself right now I'm leaning toward this possibly being the case...JMHO

 

[natsound]

When can we hear the 911 tape?

It's not public info. in Missouri, so probably not unless there's a trial.

 

[natsound]

Pseudologia fantastica comes with factitious disorders. Pat Brown suggested Deb had a factitious disorder (Munchausen).

BBM

Whoa! Yeah, what you said! :seeya:

 

[curiousjo]

New timeline -HLN UPDATE

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Drinking buddy neighbor and estranged hubby seen by marriage counselor that afternoon, then he stays at friends home for the night. So, 2 husbands gone that night. At 10:33PM, he text wife - love ya, and wife sends similiar text back. Apparently, he was a POI initially - took Poly last week and ruled out. He confirmed wife's story that they were drinking on front porch. (How would he know if not home that night?) In the past, I had heard that there was some negative interaction btwn him and the Irwin couple - never heard why. I speculated that they tattled on him, but have no clue.

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Baby put in crib 6:40 PM
Neighbor buys more liquor 6:40 PM, then returns at 7PM
Neighbor leaves 10:30 PM
Dad returns home 3:45 AM
Dad knocks on neighbor door before calling 911
911 Called 4 AM
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Not much knew - think we know all that except for neighbor marriage counseling, text. DB brother being cross examined by LE.

Great clip showing path man took down Irwin street, cut through a neighbors back yard, goes straight to dumpster, then continues onto gas station.
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Witnesses descriptions:
Female neighbor: Dark colored pants, white Tshirt, carrying baby, 5'6", "slender"
Man on motorcycle: Wearing all white, baby with diaper on, 5'7" "well built" .
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