NC - Accused child rapist could get custody of the child

[LinasK]

Good grief, talk about blackmailing the kids!! I hope Driscoll has nightmares every night for creating the circumstances of this boy's death. What happened to children's rights?? If a child does not want to see a parent, why on earth should they be forced to?

I have to agree. This judge sounds like a real piece of work! Especially where he says the mother will go to jail if the sons weren't in a "positive frame of mind" visiting the father??? WTF?????:waitasec: Yeah, who would be a in positive frame of mind and respectful and obedient when your father has been abusing you????:furious:

 

[believe09]

I have problems with the acquisations. The charges were all dropped. The man is assumed innocent. Did the man really rape the girl? I don't know. However, an investigation must have been done, and the claims couldn't hold up in court.

I have a problem with no physical evidence, but as mentioned before, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. However, it wouldn't take much to leave a mark, so I have a hard time with that story. It isn't just the initial rupturing of the membrane. There are different marks inside that differ if things are consentual (arroused) or not.

The final thing that i have problems with is that the little girl is telling the story. If that really happened then why would your child want to relive the moments over and over again by voluntarily telling the story to whomever asks. That seems to me like it was more of a trained story...

Just my opinion.

I could not disagree more heartily, respectfully speaking. I am hoping that the child or any child would be able to tell trusted adults over and over again what has been happening if the abuse is for real.

The consequences for a mis-step here are HUGE. Guessing that there was or was not abuse will not be good enough here. No reason for there not to be SUPERVISED visitation until it is sorted out. Dad can afford to be patient if the story is not true. JMO

 

[yosande]

False allegations most certainly occur, Salem. And they do more than harm the child and the falsely accused. Simply bc they increase the likelihood of true allegations being disbelieved (such as the vignette I mentioned). As for this case? No where in the article does it state the child was "battered." It states that the man was charged with

first-degree rape of a child, carnal knowledge, sexually assaulting the girl, who was 4 at the time, and taking indecent liberties with the child.
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And all of these can occur with no marks left. In the end, and imho, if this woman did lay false allegations, then she should be prosecuted. Outside of that, I do agree, err on the side of caution and protect the child.

Always! err on the side of caution and protect the child!!!

 

[Sporky]

I could not disagree more heartily, respectfully speaking. I am hoping that the child or any child would be able to tell trusted adults over and over again what has been happening if the abuse is for real.

The consequences for a mis-step here are HUGE. Guessing that there was or was not abuse will not be good enough here. No reason for there not to be SUPERVISED visitation until it is sorted out. Dad can afford to be patient if the story is not true. JMO

Yes Yes Yes. I agree 100%.

 

[shadowraiths]

O M G! That Gardner is a *%#&@)!@^, I am absolutely appalled!

People wonder why these judges are so lenient on sex offenders? I have a friend who is head of a national child victims' rights group in Washington D.C., who told me that Gardner has caused more damage to children by convincing judges to deliver them into the hands of abusive parents, than any other person in the history of the U.S. She has been fighting for child victims for several decades, and I have read some of the tragic and heart rending cases of these victims that she fights for. To my mind, she is a true hero. Unlike the late Richard Gardner, who committed suicide in 2003. Indeed. He was a total piece of work. To wit:

In his 1992 book, ''True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse,'' Gardner writes that pedophilia -- adults having sexual relations with children -- ''is a widespread and accepted practice among literally billions of people.''

[...]

Reporting the abuse and punishing the pedophilic parent shouldn't be the first response, he says. Rather, the focus should be on treatment.

[...]

Gardner also contends that while ''the sexually abused child is generally considered to be the victim,'' children may sometimes ''seduce'' the adult into abusing them. ​

Full article: click here

 

[believe09]

People wonder why these judges are so lenient on sex offenders? I have a friend who is head of a national child victims' rights group in Washington D.C., who told me that Gardner has caused more damage to children by convincing judges to deliver them into the hands of abusive parents, than any other person in the history of the U.S. She has been fighting for child victims for several decades, and I have read some of the tragic and heart rending cases of these victims that she fights for. To my mind, she is a true hero. Unlike the late Richard Gardner, who committed suicide in 2003. Indeed. He was a total piece of work. To wit:

In his 1992 book, ''True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse,'' Gardner writes that pedophilia -- adults having sexual relations with children -- ''is a widespread and accepted practice among literally billions of people.''

[...]

Reporting the abuse and punishing the pedophilic parent shouldn't be the first response, he says. Rather, the focus should be on treatment.

[...]

Gardner also contends that while ''the sexually abused child is generally considered to be the victim,'' children may sometimes ''seduce'' the adult into abusing them. ​

Full article: click here

:sick:

 

[Linda7NJ]

wow....sounded just like a pedophile to me!!

Children SEDUCING adults.... yeah..okay

 

[Nyla4]

People wonder why these judges are so lenient on sex offenders? I have a friend who is head of a national child victims' rights group in Washington D.C., who told me that Gardner has caused more damage to children by convincing judges to deliver them into the hands of abusive parents, than any other person in the history of the U.S. She has been fighting for child victims for several decades, and I have read some of the tragic and heart rending cases of these victims that she fights for. To my mind, she is a true hero. Unlike the late Richard Gardner, who committed suicide in 2003. Indeed. He was a total piece of work. To wit:

In his 1992 book, ''True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse,'' Gardner writes that pedophilia -- adults having sexual relations with children -- ''is a widespread and accepted practice among literally billions of people.''

[...]

Reporting the abuse and punishing the pedophilic parent shouldn't be the first response, he says. Rather, the focus should be on treatment.

[...]

Gardner also contends that while ''the sexually abused child is generally considered to be the victim,'' children may sometimes ''seduce'' the adult into abusing them. ​

Full article: click here

Oh my goodness, Gardner sounds like a pedophile himself. How Dare he report that some children seduce adults. Do you know the circumstances surrounding Gardner's suicide? I'm sorry to say this but,"Good riddance to bad rubbish." Kudos to your friend who is head of a children's rights group. We need more people like your friend around.

 

[Bobbisangel]

wow....sounded just like a pedophile to me!!

Children SEDUCING adults.... yeah..okay

What a sickening person Gardner was. He is one sick person. :furious: Was he a judge with a lot of pull or something?

 

[southcitymom]

I can't open the link, it says I need to be a member?:waitasec:

Same here- can you do a copy and paste??

www.bugmenot.com is the best way to get into sites like that.

 

[southcitymom]

In the case at hand, I don't believe there is enough information to know whether or not the child was molested. I think there is a lot more going on here than is being reported. That said, as a general rule, I agree with erring on the side of caution. But still - I need more information in this matter.

In the small town where I grew up, a woman I know ran off underground with her child after accusing the father or molestation. Her mother of this runaway woman (who was one very good friends with my aunt) is constantly being interviewed by the FBI to try to find the woman and her daughter. The runaway woman is a complete nutjob and I personally think she ran off with the child to cause her husband as much pain as possible.

Like most posters here, if I believed my child was being molested by someone who had the right by law to see the child often, I would leave and never look back.

 

[Becky319]

If I believed my child was being molested by someone who had the right by law to see the child often I would have to render him unable to have sex. If they aren't molesting your child they will be molesting another.

 

[Ocean Lover]

OMG! unbelievable! I would go into hiding with my child, there is NO way he would get her back, EVER.

I agree with you too! I would take the chance of being arrested for kidnapping if I could save my child from this!!!!

 

[Salem]

False allegations most certainly occur, Salem. And they do more than harm the child and the falsely accused. Simply bc they increase the likelihood of true allegations being disbelieved (such as the vignette I mentioned). As for this case? No where in the article does it state the child was "battered." It states that the man was charged with

first-degree rape of a child, carnal knowledge, sexually assaulting the girl, who was 4 at the time, and taking indecent liberties with the child.
​

And all of these can occur with no marks left. In the end, and imho, if this woman did lay false allegations, then she should be prosecuted. Outside of that, I do agree, err on the side of caution and protect the child.

Hey Shadow,

I'm going to disagree with this. On a 4-year old child, there would be physical evidence. I agree rape can happen to an adult with no outward physical signs, but not to a 4 year old. I can hardly write this - their bodies are too small, they have never had sex before. There would be physical signs. I turned the words "sexually assaulting" into battery because that is what it meant to me. Such an assault on a child would be a battery in my mind - meaning physical trauma to the child's body.

I am still praying it is not true for the child's sake. If it is, I hope they hang the .

Salem