NC NC - Asha Degree, 9, Shelby, 14 Feb 2000 #2

[MesquiteO21]

The problem with sleep walking, and I say this as someone who also sleepwalked as a kid, is that the door was locked from the inside. She could not have gone out the front door. When I was sleep walking, people in my home were awakened by me being up 99% of the time because I wasn't exactly trying to be quiet.

I also just want to add that the NKOTB shirt in question isn't a t-shirt as in a concert tshirt. It's a little girl's nightgown type of garment like you might have bought at a w*l m*rt or Km*rt or such type store. Just to give a little context to that I think helps a bit since there are so many here who are new to this case.

Do we happen to know how she left, if not through the front door?

 

[MesquiteO21]

The nkotb really hit the height of their popularity near the end of the 80s. Of the 3 sisters, I would say it probably belonged to the oldest. Even at 16 in 2000, that's pushing it.

I think they were still decently popular into the 90s. I was born in ‘85 my sister in ‘81 and I remember we both had one of the nkotb Barbie dolls lol. I don’t recall what year that was maybe ‘91 or ‘92? Boy bands seem to always be popular with young girls so I think the night shirt could belong to any of them honestly

***JMO***

 

[fsngruv]

The nkotb really hit the height of their popularity near the end of the 80s. Of the 3 sisters, I would say it probably belonged to the oldest. Even at 16 in 2000, that's pushing it.

I agree. This was the height of much cooler, younger boy bands like ncync, backstreet boys and 98 degrees. New kids were very out of style by then, but back then smaller more rural areas might've been more behind the times?

 

[Deleted member 326769]

The nkotb really hit the height of their popularity near the end of the 80s. Of the 3 sisters, I would say it probably belonged to the oldest. Even at 16 in 2000, that's pushing it.

You’d be surprised. They still sell out cruises maybe an aunt or somebody liked them and bought the shirt for her

 

[Mysteries1974]

Do we happen to know how she left, if not through the front door?

She left through the front door and used the key from her backpack to lock it. Asha had a house key in her backpack

 

[MesquiteO21]

With our something to connect the POI's family and Asha, it seems more like it could be two separate events that culminated in her death.

This is what I’m thinking now too. All these years I thought she must have been groomed by someone and left to go meet them and had a terrible end. But kind of looks like now there’s a possibility that her death wasn’t directly related to her leaving and moreso she was in the wrong place at the wrong time for whatever reason…a “butterfly effect” kind of situation

***JMO***

 

[ekardh]

I have a feeling that, just like Zebb Quinn, when this case does get solved we will still be left with more questions than answers.

 

[fidgeypie]

My opinion-purely speculative- is that she was invited to maybe a "sleepover" and told to leave at that time so it would be a secret. You know her age was not that different from that of the youngest daughter of the Dedmonds.

Maybe invited to a sleep over, told someone would pick her up, only to leave her there - MOO

 

[Quill]

You’d be surprised. They still sell out cruises maybe an aunt or somebody liked them and bought the shirt for her

It's been long established that the shirt, also the book for that matter, didn't belong to Asha. If you go back and look at the nightshirt, it's really the type thing that was sold in big box stores when a group was the hot thing. Of course, it could have always been picked up at a thrift or yard sale but these are unimportant because no one in Asha's family had ever seen the shirt before. With the younger Dedmon girl's DNA being detected on the shirt, IMO the origin of the shirt is pretty clear.

 

[Deleted member 326769]

It's been long established that the shirt, also the book for that matter, didn't belong to Asha. If you go back and look at the nightshirt, it's really the type thing that was sold in big box stores when a group was the hot thing. Of course, it could have always been picked up at a thrift or yard sale but these are unimportant because no one in Asha's family had ever seen the shirt before. With the younger Dedmon girl's DNA being detected on the shirt, IMO the origin of the shirt is pretty clear.

I meant one of the the dedmon sisters, not Asha. Sorry about the confusion

 

[Quill]

I meant one of the the dedmon sisters, not Asha. Sorry about the confusion

oh I see! Sorry for that confusion.

 

[horselightning]

It's been long established that the shirt, also the book for that matter, didn't belong to Asha. If you go back and look at the nightshirt, it's really the type thing that was sold in big box stores when a group was the hot thing. Of course, it could have always been picked up at a thrift or yard sale but these are unimportant because no one in Asha's family had ever seen the shirt before. With the younger Dedmon girl's DNA being detected on the shirt, IMO the origin of the shirt is pretty clear.

it was passed down to younger daughter. only oldest would have been old enough to be into them at that time., possibly the second daughter/. new kids were popular between 1989-1992. the oldest would have been like 9 or ten. course it could have come from friend or second hand store or something.

 

[horselightning]

6-8 I think

somewhere in there . it could be handy me down form cousin too. i wonder long it will take for them to do the tests.

 

[Cedars]

I almost wonder if there are two separate things going on here, and it's hard to connect them. One is why a little girl would have gone out on a cold, stormy night. Was she lured with the promise of something (could be anything from the promise of a gift or activity from an adult with nefarious motivation to a clandestine meetup with a friend)? Could she have sleepwalked (it's not common but can happen that people leave their homes doing it). Could it be something as simple as she woke up, maybe from a dream, and thought it was much later in the morning than it was and got ready for school, perhaps realizing that it was too early but deciding to walk to school anyway not realizing HOW early, maybe to play on the playground? I know I've woken from a dream thinking, 'oh no, I'm late' and it taking a few minutes to realize that's not the case.

The second is what happened to her after, and while sadly it looks more and more like she was killed not long after she left the house, or at least was taken and died/was killed later. But how that happened, again, could have multiple answers. It could be that someone lured her with malicious intent, either an adult (pedophile?) or another kid (angry about something and wanting to fight or worse). But it also seems like it could have been accidental (hit her with the car and she was seen alive being pulled into it but later passed from injuries? If it was a teen driving, they might have panicked and taken her home instead of to a hospital or to her own house, and once there, she either died or was killed to cover it up). Or, it could have been a crime of opportunity by someone who saw her and took her for the purpose of harming her, a cruel coincidence after she left her house for an unrelated reason.

With our something to connect the POI's family and Asha, it seems more like it could be two separate events that culminated in her death.

MOO, of course, and just thinking out loud to see if anything sounds like it makes sense.

I agree these are two separate issues and to me, the reason why Asha left her house is actually of very little interest, the important thing is why wasn't she returned, alive and well?

If, as the Dedmon's lawyer implies, it was Underhill who was probably responsible, then why didn't the Dedmon's cooperate with police and allow them to tow the car and search the properties, without needing search warrants? Also, we don't know what the daughter whose hair was found on the shirt has said or not said, or how she reacted to the news.

It's also very puzzling how Asha's stuff would be mixed up with at least one other kid's stuff - so, it was somehow dumped out, co-mingled with the other stuff, then -partially- put into the trash bags to dump by the side of the road. I don't have, or expect, an answer to this but it is a very peculiar type of criminal behaviour. Most often, the perp knows exactly what stuff belonged to the victim, and what didn't.

JMO

 

[Tricia]

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[Deleted member 326769]

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Do you consider replying and quoting a post the same thing?

 

[Tricia]

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[horselightning]

I just made mistake I feel bad. After I made the post of being careful what we said. So sorry.

 

[Deleted member 306806]

If, as the Dedmon's lawyer implies, it was Underhill who was probably responsible, then why didn't the Dedmon's cooperate with police and allow them to tow the car and search the properties, without needing search warrants?

Dedmon's attorney says in the press conference that Dedmon was asked to come in for questioning and while that was happening the search warrants were being executed. Investigators did not give Dedmon the opportunity. Which makes sense in a case like this.

It's also very puzzling how Asha's stuff would be mixed up with at least one other kid's stuff - so, it was somehow dumped out, co-mingled with the other stuff, then -partially- put into the trash bags to dump by the side of the road. I don't have, or expect, an answer to this but it is a very peculiar type of criminal behaviour. Most often, the perp knows exactly what stuff belonged to the victim, and what didn't.

Remember, Asha parents said those items were not hers. But IME kids with strict parents can learn to do things without parent knowing, like trading items.

 

[Queena]

Roy and Connie Dedmon are the only suspects that are listed on the warrant.

This isn't speculation. This is a fact. Underhill isn't listed as a suspect. Only Roy and Connie Dedmon. I wonder what made them come to that conclusion?

The recently released documents also identified a couple, Roy and Connie Dedmon, as suspects in the case. All of the properties searched were in some way connected to the Dedmons, including two homes owned by Roy Dedmon, as well as an assisted living facility he operated.

Warrant: Suspect in Asha Degree case seen digging ‘chest-deep hole’ on Shelby property

A woman told investigators the suspect dug the hole “several years ago.”

www.wbtv.com