NC NC - Asha Degree, 9, Shelby, 14 Feb 2000 #2

[BethAnn777]

This WBTV news clip interviewing Asha’s mom -

I read elsewhere that folks are picking apart Mom’s words and body language. I don’t see/hear anything strange, but it is the first I remember hearing that there was company at the house until 9:30 pm.

Thoughts?

 

[Noirdame79]

This WBTV news clip interviewing Asha’s mom -

I read elsewhere that folks are picking apart Mom’s words and body language. I don’t see/hear anything strange, but it is the first I remember hearing that there was company at the house until 9:30 pm.

Thoughts?

That is just one example of how the story has changed. Prior to this, both parents stated that there were no visitors that night. The "candy run" her father supposedly went on at 11:30 pm - midnight (during a power outage, no less) wasn't brought up until ten years after Asha went missing.

The time that Asha supposedly went to bed changed numerous times - and that started early on.

Her father said that the power went out around 10 and came back on around midnight Sunday. Asha's dad said she laid on the couch in jeans and a purple and white "Sun Degrees Hot In Atlanta" T-shirt until her father told her to go to bed around midnight.

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Asha's father said the girl went to bed about 6:30 pm Sunday. About 8:30 pm, she awakened when lightning storms and high winds swept through the area. She watched TV in the den with the rest of the family until returning to bed at 9 pm.

https://www.scribd.com/document/400300184/AshDeg

In this interview from February 2023, Asha's mother said that she and her brother were still up at 9:30 pm because they were talking with their aunt. Iquilla said that she looked at her watch, realized it was late and sent the kids to bed:

In the Find Our Missing episode from about ten years prior to the recent interview, Aquilla and Harold told the producers that the power went out at around 9:35 and Asha and O'Bryant went to bed about an hour later - around 10:30 pm and they were asleep by 11 pm.

The timeline keeps changing.

As I stated in a previous post, the description of Asha's personality by her parents changed from "She was shy, quiet, obedient, responsible, afraid of the dark, and storms" to "Asha was a social butterfly, and would talk to anyone, and that might have been the downfall." Say what?

 

[Noirdame79]

To clarify what I stated in my in my previous post:

Both Mr. And Mrs. Degree said no one came to the house that they know of that night, and that no one knocked at the door.

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Yet, in 2023, all of sudden, two relatives stopped by in the evening after the power went out (Aquilla's brother-in-law and sister). The parents cannot give a consistent timeline of when Asha went to bed, they can't describe what she was wearing when she went to bed, and can't seem to decide whether or not they had any visitors, yet Aquilla stated she was able to describe every article of Asha's clothing that was missing, including what was later found in her backpack. Hmm.

 

[Noirdame79]

Depending on what version of the story you hear, Harold (Asha's father) was either 1) working until midnight at his second job or 2) was home all night. Which is it? Either he was home all night or he wasn't.

There was no clock in the children's room. Iquilla had to wake up Asha and O'Bryant for school. In my opinion, this pokes a large hole in the groomer theory (or any theory for that matter that involves Asha choosing to leave the house at a specific time). If this was planned, how would Asha know when to get up and leave when there was no clock? (O'Bryant stated that he and Asha were close, and she would not have left without telling him).
One of the few segments of the parents' story that has remained somewhat consistent is that Harold checked on the kids twice, once at 12:30 am and again at either 2 or 2:30 am and Asha and her brother were fast asleep.

Asha had the presence of mind to pack her backpack ahead of time, but didn't have the presence of mind to take her coat, on a cold, wet, stormy night?

The way Asha's backpack was discarded (wrapped in two garbage bags, thrown from a car, and later covered by debris, etc) doesn't sound like something an experienced criminal (aka predator or killer) would do. It sounds like something an amateur would do. My theory is that the person who discarded the backpack was responsible for Asha's disappearance, and this individual panicked when they realized that they still had it and knew they would have to conceal and dispose of it.

 

[Noirdame79]

Frantic 911 Call Transcript Feb 14, 2000

Transcript of 911 call for missing girl

Here is the 911 call from Harold Degree to the police that lasted approximately 2
minutes, 40 seconds. The call was made at 6:39 a.m. Monday:
Dispatcher: 911
Father: Yes, I'd like to report a child missing.
Dispatcher: From where?
Father: From my house.
Dispatcher: What's your address?
Father: Uhh, 3404 Oakcrest Drive.
Dispatcher: Is this an apartment?
Father: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Which apartment?
Father: Uhh, Apartment 3406.
Dispatcher: OK, is she missing from 3404 or 3406?
Father: 3404, I mean.
Dispatcher: There's not an apartment number?
Father: It's 34-, un huh, no, u huh (crying in the background)
Dispatcher: It's not like an A or B?
Father: No, u huh.
Dispatcher: What's your name?
Father: Harold Degree.
Dispatcher: Your phone number, Harold?
Father: (gives phone number) The next-door neighbor said she went down the road
and said she just seen a kid down the road. (crying continues in the background)
Dispatcher: What's the child's name?
Father: Asha Degree
Dispatcher: What's her full name?
Father: Asha Jaquailla Degree
Dispatcher: Can you spell it for me, please?
Father: A-s-h-a J-a-q-u-a-i-l
Dispatcher: J-a what? (crying, talking in the background)
Dispatcher: J-a what?
Father: J-a-q-u - I mean, yeah, J-a-q-u-a-i-l-l-a
Dispatcher: Degree?
Father: Yeah, yeah.
Dispatcher: How old is she?
Father: Uhh, nine.
Dispatcher: White or black?
Father: Black.
Dispatcher: When did you last see her Harold?
Father: Last time I went to bed, she was in the bed. We got up this morning,
called her to get up to go to school, and she wasn't in there. And her bookbag's
missing and her pocketbook. (crying continues in the background)
Dispatcher: So you don't know if she got dressed or if she's still got on her
bedclothes or what?
Father: We don't know.
Dispatcher: Was the door open or anything?
Father: No. Uhh, her brother sleeps in there with her and when he uhh, when he
was in there he didn't hear her when she got up.
Dispatcher: OK.
Dispatcher: All right Harold, I will get an officer to get in touch with you
just as soon as possible. If you do happen to locate her, please call us back
and let us know, OK?
Father: OK.
Dispatcher: Thank you, bye-bye.

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Strange how there's never been any mention of this neighbor who supposedly saw Asha walking down the road in possible connection with the other alleged sightings (and the neighbor just happened to be looking out her window in those early morning hours?). Also notice that Harold mentioned, without being asked, that Asha's backpack and pocketbook were missing.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Also notice that Harold mentioned, without being asked, that Asha's backpack and pocketbook were missing.

That was my first thought reading the transcript, too -- how would a parent notice a "missing" backpack and especially pocketbook in a frantic search for a missing child before the 911 call was even made? Not "We think her backpack/purse are missing?" but stating that they are missing.

But then again, is it possible she always kept her backpack and purse in one place, so they would have known just where to look? This case is tricky.

I also wonder about the alleged neighbor sighting.

 

[Noirdame79]

That was my first thought reading the transcript, too -- how would a parent notice a "missing" backpack and especially pocketbook in a frantic search for a missing child before the 911 call was even made? Not "We think her backpack/purse are missing?" but stating that they are missing.

But then again, is it possible she always kept her backpack and purse in one place, so they would have known just where to look? This case is tricky.

I also wonder about the alleged neighbor sighting.

Interestingly, it was O'Bryant who told the police that he noticed that Asha's backpack was missing (which would make sense since they shared a room). Neither parent told police that they noticed it was gone, yet Harold mentioned it in the 911 call. Also, notice that he never once refers to Asha as his daughter during the call. "A child is missing" not "my child is missing".

Harold also said that a neighbor "just saw" a child going down the street. The 911 call was placed at 6:39 am. The other alleged "sightings" of Asha along the highway were a few hours earlier.

 

[Deleted member 306806]

Interestingly, it was O'Bryant who told the police that he noticed that Asha's backpack was missing (which would make sense since they shared a room). Neither parent told police that they noticed it was gone, yet Harold mentioned it in the 911 call. Also, notice that he never once refers to Asha as his daughter during the call. "A child is missing" not "my child is missing".

Harold also said that a neighbor "just saw" a child going down the street. The 911 call was placed at 6:39 am. The other alleged "sightings" of Asha along the highway were a few hours earlier.

Being the morning before school, looking for backpack right away does not seem unusual. It seems pretty logical. You can't find a family member in the morning before school or work, look for the things they take with them to school or work. Then look outside.

 

[Noirdame79]

Being the morning before school, looking for backpack right away does not seem unusual. It seems pretty logical. You can't find a family member in the morning before school or work, look for the things they take with them to school or work. Then look outside.

It was Iquilla who supposedly noticed that Asha was missing that morning when she went to wake up the kids, and she later stated that she didn't notice the backpack was also missing. I suppose O'Bryant could have told his father that Asha's backpack was gone, however this was supposedly within minutes after it was realized that she was missing, and it was still strange for Harold to randomly bring it up without being asked (he also said her purse/pocketbook was gone, as if to give the impression that Asha ran away, although both parents swore at the time that she would never do that).

 

[Noirdame79]

Does anybody have any more info about this?

FBI, Cleveland County deputies execute search warrant​

Sheriff, FBI won’t confirm subject of investigation​

By Nick Ochsner
Published: Sep. 10, 2024 at 6:02 PM MDT|Updated: 40 minutes ago

SHELBY, N.C. (WBTV) – The FBI, Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office and N.C. State Bureau of Investigation are searching a Cleveland County home and adjoining property.
Only WBTV was on scene at the home on Cherryville Road in Shelby on Tuesday afternoon as crews searched the house.
Investigators were seen carrying boxes in and out of the house and closely studying an old car parked in the home’s driveway.
A joint statement from the agencies conducting the search confirmed they were executing a search warrant but did not provide any additional details.
“The Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI, and the SBI are executed court-authorized search warrants at multiple locations in and around Cleveland County today,” the statement said. “We are not releasing specific information at this time.”
Investigators remained on scene into Tuesday evening, with no sign of wrapping up.
Stay with WBTV for more on this developing story as new information becomes available.

FBI, Cleveland County deputies execute search warrant

Local, state and federal law enforcement were searching a Cleveland County home and adjoining property.

www.wbtv.com

No word yet as of now (that I know of) as to whether or not this is related to Asha. I guess we're playing the wait-and-see game.

 

[archenemy toenail]

Does anybody have any more info about this?

FBI, Cleveland County deputies execute search warrant​

Sheriff, FBI won’t confirm subject of investigation​

By Nick Ochsner
Published: Sep. 10, 2024 at 6:02 PM MDT|Updated: 40 minutes ago

SHELBY, N.C. (WBTV) – The FBI, Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office and N.C. State Bureau of Investigation are searching a Cleveland County home and adjoining property.
Only WBTV was on scene at the home on Cherryville Road in Shelby on Tuesday afternoon as crews searched the house.
Investigators were seen carrying boxes in and out of the house and closely studying an old car parked in the home’s driveway.
A joint statement from the agencies conducting the search confirmed they were executing a search warrant but did not provide any additional details.
“The Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI, and the SBI are executed court-authorized search warrants at multiple locations in and around Cleveland County today,” the statement said. “We are not releasing specific information at this time.”
Investigators remained on scene into Tuesday evening, with no sign of wrapping up.
Stay with WBTV for more on this developing story as new information becomes available.

FBI, Cleveland County deputies execute search warrant

Local, state and federal law enforcement were searching a Cleveland County home and adjoining property.

www.wbtv.com

No word yet as of now (that I know of) as to whether or not this is related to Asha. I guess we're playing the wait-and-see game.

The car under the carport in that video made me think of the green car tip from several years ago…

 

[ChancellorJ]

Hey I just wanted to check to see if anything was here yet. I'm feeling pretty anxious. I don't want to be hopeful, but I'm tentatively hopeful.

 

[BethAnn777]

Does anybody have any more info about this?

FBI, Cleveland County deputies execute search warrant​

Sheriff, FBI won’t confirm subject of investigation​

By Nick Ochsner
Published: Sep. 10, 2024 at 6:02 PM MDT|Updated: 40 minutes ago

SHELBY, N.C. (WBTV) – The FBI, Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office and N.C. State Bureau of Investigation are searching a Cleveland County home and adjoining property.
Only WBTV was on scene at the home on Cherryville Road in Shelby on Tuesday afternoon as crews searched the house.
Investigators were seen carrying boxes in and out of the house and closely studying an old car parked in the home’s driveway.
A joint statement from the agencies conducting the search confirmed they were executing a search warrant but did not provide any additional details.
“The Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI, and the SBI are executed court-authorized search warrants at multiple locations in and around Cleveland County today,” the statement said. “We are not releasing specific information at this time.”
Investigators remained on scene into Tuesday evening, with no sign of wrapping up.
Stay with WBTV for more on this developing story as new information becomes available.

FBI, Cleveland County deputies execute search warrant

Local, state and federal law enforcement were searching a Cleveland County home and adjoining property.

www.wbtv.com

No word yet as of now (that I know of) as to whether or not this is related to Asha. I guess we're playing the wait-and-see game.

Did she go missing on Cherryville Road? I thought it was N.C. Highway 18 but this article about Asha from 2018 mentions Cherryville Rd. OMgoodness, this might really be something!

Search continues for Asha Degree years after disappearance

It’s been 18 years since then 9-year-old Asha Degree went missing from her home.

spectrumlocalnews.com

 

[Noirdame79]

Did she go missing on Cherryville Road? I thought it was N.C. Highway 18 but this article about Asha from 2018 mentions Cherryville Rd. OMgoodness, this might really be something!

Search continues for Asha Degree years after disappearance

It’s been 18 years since then 9-year-old Asha Degree went missing from her home.

spectrumlocalnews.com

It's my understanding that Cherryville Road is 15 minutes from Shelby.

 

[BethAnn777]

It's my understanding that Cherryville Road is 15 minutes from Shelby.

There is a Cherryville Rd. In Shelby, North Carolina but there is also a Cherryville, North Carolina. The original article/video you linked refers to Cherryville Rd. in Shelby.

 

[DS2021]

I have a strong feeling this is asha related.

Abused horse case continued - again

About a dozen people gathered in the district courtroom Monday, waiting to find out Judge Dean Black's ruling on an animal abuse case involving a horse.

www.shelbystar.com

The Cleveland County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI, and the SBI executed court-authorized search warrants at multiple locations in and around Cleveland County today,” the FBI said on September 10. “We are not releasing additional information at this time.”

 

[LoisLane47]

Interesting. The car in the video appears to be a mid 1980s Oldsmobile Cutlass. What kind of car did the Degrees own at the time of Asha's disappearance?

 

[Sweetluv]

Not sure what kind of car was driven by the Degrees...
A late model 70's Ford Thunderbird or Lincoln Mark IV with rust around the wheel wells ,green in color, was the car of interest...

 

[Sweetluv]

This occurred at night, so I'm not sure how accurate the witness can be on the color or the actual make n model.

 

[Proud Country Gal]

Hoping it’s her!!
Map of search warrant and just about where she was last seen..

Edited to say not the direction of the back pack